GNU/Linux Is Still Cooking

“SAMSUNG HAS TAKEN A SHOT at Microsoft with the announcement that owners of its Galaxy smartphones will soon be able to run a full-fledged Linux operating system.
At the launch of the Galaxy S8 earlier this year, Samsung first introduced DeX, a system that allows you to connect your handset to an external display, mouse, and keyboard in order to bring a desktop-like experience to your smartphone.
Until now, S8 and Note 8 users have been able to run Android apps in this desktop environment, but soon, users will be able to transform their device into a GNU/Linux PC.”
See Samsung DeX will soon run full desktop Linux
It’s true that smartphones have taken a huge share of personal computing away from desktops and notebooks but there are still huge limitations around screen-size, computing power, storage etc. where smartphones are not enough. I’ve long recommended using smartphones and desktop equipment together. Every time I find my text runs outside a text-box or some page is viewable only in portrait mode in Android/Linux, I long for some way to get to GNU/Linux. Today, I get up off the sofa and walk to my desk. Perhaps some day, I’ll dock the smartphone and carry on. Now, I have to reopen work from the desktop PC I call Beast.

Will it happen? I don’t know, but at least the idea is still alive and well. Others have tried before. Perhaps it’s an idea whose time has come and Samsung will make it happen.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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15 Responses to GNU/Linux Is Still Cooking

  1. oiaohm says:
    Deaf Spy different docking attempts have been around for quite some time.

    You Lumia has the same problem as most of them. Lack of applications for the docked mode. Lumia also suffers from the same problem as Ubuntu touch phones lack of applications for the phone mode as well.

    Samsung alteration is interesting. Because full screen Android applications are possible as well as Linux Desktop applications. So MS Office for Android and all the applications in Ubuntu/what ever distribution you like being able to be used with a phone docked and in normal phone mode is Android with tons of normal applications as well. USB C addresses one of the biggest issues with attempt to dock phones in the past of how to dock phone and charge it at the same time.

    Please note the S8 phones have been fairly much in desktop mode as worthless and your Lumia.
    This is the s8 reviewed with dex dock with only Android. Runs into the same problems as your Lumia phone with windows os. Lack of desktop applications.

    Microsoft hoped to get Windows phones out the hell with a x86 emulator on Arm that Intel has threat to patent sue them back to the stone age if they attempt that.

    The point that is of interest is do more Android phone vendors follow the Samsung path. If so this will put more pressure on Microsoft to make wsl complete desktop supporting and if that ever happens there will be less reason to-do win32/win64/.net applications.

    Deaf Spy all the OS you listed with perfectly good windows managers there are ways of crashing all them. The difference is users are use to the defects.

  2. Deaf Spy says:

    Anyone can use it for any purpose and they can examine and modify it to suit their application.

    Unfortunately for KDE, most businesses prefer to spend their money on solutions to their immediate problems, not to fix a broken windows manager. Provided perfectly working windows manager such as Windows, Mac, iOS and Android already exist. But flosstards never tire of hoping.

  3. Deaf Spy says:

    Perhaps some day, I’ll dock the smartphone and carry on.

    If you had a Lumia with a display dock, you would have been already able to do that.

    I have these and I often hook them to a 24″ display, keyboard and a mouse and turn my phone into a desktop computer, capable of lite office work, fully-fledged browsing (and web apps) and remote desktop. Today. Not some day, not perhaps, but today.

  4. Deaf Spy says:

    When folks see the cost they may decide to fix their problems with FLOSS instead.


    Especially when you read this from Greece’s source:
    … although the Linux project was complete, there were still 4,163 Windows based-PCs in the City network, compared to 20,000 Linux machines, as full compatibility with some vital services was never achieved. (emphasis mine)

  5. Grece wrote, “Munich is dumping both Libreoffice AND Linux”.

    That remains to be seen. The costs of such a change have not been publicized yet. When folks see the cost they may decide to fix their problems with FLOSS instead. I find it interesting that Munich has not only got the job done for years with FLOSS but they’ve increased the number of seats running GNU/Linux nearly 50% since the migration was officially completed. Clearly, there’s more to the story than GNU/Linux’s ills. We all saw that the migration was not done optimally and it’s quite possible further changes in the organization of IT were needed. The OS was just one of Munich’s problems. Changing the OS didn’t fix everything. Going back to TOOS won’t fix everything either.

  6. Grece says:

    Obviously you cannot read dimwit, Munich is dumping both Libreoffice AND Linux.

  7. oiaohm says:

    Grece notice they are not talking about Libreoffice with Munich.

    Also do note the Accenture report said the problem was not Linux. The problem was IT management. Now if Munich returns to Windows and their management is still crap a new lot of problems will pop up costing even more money.

    So Accenture who was a external auditor advice is being ignored. Its a nice 10 meg PDF on the topic. Unfortunately for this crowd in german.

    Really the Accenture report found everything I suspected. Its why Malaysia, India and other governments use a lot of Linux desktops without issues. Better management.

    So Munich is a political idea to return to Windows at the moment. With the poor grade of management this is going to be interesting to watch. Particularly when you consider how many machines Munich has that is older than 2012 that is the windows 10 cut off. This was also something mentioned in the Accenture report was how old of machines Munich was running and the hardware upgrade cost. The age of hardware was also giving Linux desktops some of it stability problems. Hardware prior to year 2000 in active usage in 2016 does same good right.

  8. kurkosdr wrote, “What a mistake it was, preventing any attempts at commercialization of KDE back in the day…”

    I don’t think anyone claimed TrollTech was evil: “In 1998, the management of TrollTech recognized that they could make Qt free software and continue charging for permission to embed it in proprietary software. I do not recall whether the suggestion came from me, but I certainly was happy to see the change, which made it possible to use Qt and thus KDE in the free software world.
    Initially, they used their own license, the Q Public License (QPL) — quite restrictive as free software licenses go, and incompatible with the GNU GPL. Later they switched to the GNU GPL; I think I had explained to them that it would work for the purpose.”

    kurkosdr writes as if licensing issues are never a problem if you pay money for licences. How many lawsuits has the world seen over licensing? This is just a matter of sorting out details. TrollTech got what they wanted and the FLOSS community got what it wanted. It’s good for everyone. TrollTech and Qt have evolved and no one but kurkosdr is whining about licensing.

  9. kurkosdr says:

    Oh, there was quite a bit of brouhaha on the subject: (make a page search for “KDE”)

    Those people! How do they dare want to make some money by not spilling all the beans!

    The entire Linux Desktop reeks of “Stallman will never make money from his code, and neither should you”, and anyone wanting to make a contribution and at the same time make some money on the side is either pushed aside or sued using the GPL (a license written by a graybeard with an axe to grind)

    The result? The only organizations willing to plonk the amount of R&D needed to make Linux Desktop usable are vultures (with an army of lawyers) like Samsung who want to fork the code, seal it inside tivoized expensive hardware and keep it unpatched once the warranty expires.

    But hey, Trolltech was evil or so for doing things with Qt… congratulations to the communitah for setting them straight.

  10. Kurkosdr wrote, “What a mistake it was, preventing any attempts at commercialization of KDE back in the day…”

    What day was that? KDE is used by millions of users and many businesses are involved in its development and distribution. It’s FLOSS. Anyone can use it for any purpose and they can examine and modify it to suit their application.

  11. Kurkosdr says:

    To date, I have not seen an official Linux desktop sold at the local store.

    When Samsung forks Linux Desktop (see OP) and converts it into an unpatched, security-holed mess that’s tied to expensive hardware, you will see a “Linux Desktop” sold at your local store.

    Why? Because then Sammy will be able to make money off the damn thing, and they will have an incentive to drop huge amounts of R&D into it and fix the myriad problem of the desktop side.

    What a mistake it was, preventing any attempts at commercialization of KDE back in the day…

  12. Grece says:

    Coincidentally Robert, when did this GNU/Linux Desktop thing allegedly occur? I think it has been said every year in fact since 1998. To date, I have not seen an official Linux desktop sold at the local store.

  13. Grece says:


    No one is using that Robert.

    Seriously, with all these flaws and bugs floating around, who has the time to “patch” and rebuild their kernel twenty times a month?

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