Trump And Kim Playing With Fire

“Kim’s foreign minister told reporters in New York that Pyongyang could launch a nuclear missile test in response.”
 
See North Korea could test ‘strongest’ hydrogen bomb in Pacific Ocean, says country’s foreign minister
This is like the 1960s all over again but faster this time. Then USA and USSR were in an arms race and moved nukes closer to each other’s territory. Tests of nuclear weapons were made in the atmosphere and nuclear fallout was contaminating vegetation and animals all over Earth.

The only thing that’s different is now we have two nut-cases leading USA and North Korea. Both “leaders” are erratic and unpredictable. They inspire fear and worry rather than confidence.

If North Korea can deliver a nuke to some target in the Pacific ocean by missile, the game gains momentum. The world is closer to nuclear war. How will it go? A preemptive strike followed by a barrage? Will China and Russia remain neutral? Will both leaders compensate for a possible first strike by giving the military a green light? How many millions will die in the process? Will the egos of these demonic leaders be satisfied? Will humanity learn from or even survive the experience? Stay tuned. You cannot change the channel.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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3 Responses to Trump And Kim Playing With Fire

  1. oiaohm says:

    http://www.rfa.org/english/news/korea/jamming-11052015131640.html
    Grece if you would do a little bit of research. Dropping a million phones in North Korea with free Internet service is pointless as North Korea just deploys jammers and trackers so the free internet service does not work and the phone possible lands person with it in jail. This is why South Korea activists have stopped sending phones.

    Yes this is the change of 2015 and yes China has been suffering areas near North Korea boarder having disrupted mobile phone services.

    Now deploying something like an endless os device that can update device to device and protected in process by signing key and can contain useful information might get somewhere. Endless device design can run radio silent and running radio silent is a must have in these heavy police states.

    Robert Pogson basically as normal Grece ideas don’t pass basic research check.

    Really I cannot understand why North Korea is so go darn deterred to go after nuke. MOAB from the USA and ATBIP/FOAB from Russia are conventional bombs with more destructive force than the nukes dropped on japan and those are mostly not use due to worry about killing unattended targets.

    In fact you ATBIP/FOAB that is a thermobaric weapon has higher fatality level than dropping a nuke.

    Japan has proven does not take long to clean up a contaminated area good enough that you can use it this under mines the biggest threat of nuke weapons as well. Around fukushima in some of the highly containment areas humans might not be able to live there but there are crops that can be grown without trouble.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4990116/
    Basically large percentage crops you can plant, grow and harvest using using robots can be grown on radioactive ruined soil and get a non radioactive food source out of.

    So nuke weapons could cause mandated farming zones. With most of our cities being built in the best rainfall areas. Result is nuking you enemy long term might be helping you enemy to have better agriculture long term. The fukushima explains why the nukes on japan at the end of world war II were not as population killing as a lot expected because most crops growing in contaminated zones are just as safe as crops grown outside contaminated zones. Reality with advancements in robotics the threat of a nuke is being weakened.

  2. Grece wrote, “I like the idea of dropping a million cell phones with free internet service for the populace of North Korea.”

    The South did launch balloons with leaflets but drew a barrage of artillery, ISTR. I imagine a stealth bomber with thousands of pounds of bomb-capacity could do some real damage with smartphones. I imagine being caught with one would result in death and I don’t know how one could organize a good result using a campaign of information. The leader does not hesitate to kill people innocent/guilty just as examples. A few thousand public executions might quell any reasonable revolt. I doubt enough Koreans trust Trump enough to risk their lives. I know I wouldn’t.

    Simple leaflets accompanied by thumbtacks might work. People put them up and run off. They get read. Minds change.

    Regardless of the mindset of the population, the leader has the military eating out of his hand. If he gives the order to slaughter/invade/incinerate the South, it will happen. The critical path is eliminating the leader and his lines of communication. There’s just no guarantee that all Hell won’t break out at any attempt. The risk/reward ratio is astronomical. You get a pause in the leadership or millions of deaths or both. The odds are bad. The leader is also known to use look-alikes to disguise his location/activity. The most likely scenario is a general resumption of war possibly with the use of tactical nukes. It’s hard to see a death toll in any scenario with a number smaller than 100K and it could easily be millions. The best chance of “success” is a preemptive strike doing as much damage in one instant as possible with as little warning as possible. We can hope the leader has paralyzed his military with tight top-down control but he may also have multiple triggers and lines of communication. He may be an idiot but he’s not stupid and he has lots of smart people trying to please him. It won’t be pretty.

    Presumably, a first strike would look like a dozen or so stealth bombers destroying all the juicy targets with nukes, then waves of bunker-busters and a few MOABs. I’d recommend swarms of warthogs shutting down artillery as fast as possible. Still, the North will fight on with sharp sticks until none are left alive. Their army is huge and dedication extreme. They have a lot of rockets and artillery and USA only has so many satellites and planes and bombs and rockets. It took weeks to shut down Iraq. North Korea is a bigger problem. Similar populations and areas but North Korea has many times larger military than Iraq. Also, Iraq had no WMD. NK has plenty, whatever money can buy or make.

  3. Grece says:

    Life goes on Robert.

    I like the idea of dropping a million cell phones with free internet service for the populace of North Korea.

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