It Will Happen, Bozo!

Trump: “North Korea just stated that it is in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of reaching parts of the U.S. It won’t happen!”Well, he’s just being silly as usual. NK has already put a satellite into orbit. Do the maths. ICBMs need less energy than that. It’s just a matter of payload. At the same time, NK has developed rather small nukes. It’s a matter of engineering to put a nuke on a rocket and get it to function at the end. These things were developed in the 1950/60 period when technology was very shaky. NK certainly could do it.

“Won’t happen!” is code for I mysteriously will prevent it or they can’t do it. Neither is likely to be true. Remember these are the same Koreans that were willing to die in human wave attacks against machine-guns in the Korean war. They are not about to desist simply because Trump wishes it were so. To actively prevent deployment of nukes, Trump will have to invade or bomb NK. What will China do in the meantime? MacArthur found out.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
This entry was posted in politics and tagged , , . Bookmark the permalink.

11 Responses to It Will Happen, Bozo!

  1. dougman says:

    Pogsey, you sound jealous. Maybe you should take a night with the fellas down to the strip club. The TLW won’t mind, just cash out a wad of dollars from your RICH pension fund have a fun time.

  2. dougman wrote, “you are talking about buddy Kim Jong-un”.

    He has a lot in common with Trump:

    • fan club
    • lots of girls
    • bad hair every day
    • self-important jerkiness
    • rules by divine right
    • threats, lies and innuendo make up the vocabulary
    • bully
    • prances in front of a crowd
    • repeats everything three times while thinking of something else to say
    • rewards sycophants
    • overweight
    • can’t let go of anything
  3. dougman says:

    “Nope. I’m going to blame it on a loud-mouthed jerk with no impulse control and feelings of insecurity so that he has to beat up any and all who oppose him.”

    Obviously, you are talking about buddy Kim Jong-un.

  4. Foobar wrote, “you’re going to blame it on the fact that the United States has a strong leader in charge again.”

    Nope. I’m going to blame it on a loud-mouthed jerk with no impulse control and feelings of insecurity so that he has to beat up any and all who oppose him.

  5. So in this hypothetical situation, North Korea nukes South Korea, and you’re going to blame it on the fact that the United States has a strong leader in charge again. You’re an idiot.

  6. Foobar also wrote, “I will put a stop to this as soon as I am in power.”

    Well, there are 50 ways Trump could stop NK and all of them end badly. How will Trump do it? The only possible good outcome would be for Trump to phone NK and tell them to smarten up or else… and they actually pound their swords into plowshares. That for sure won’t happen. The regime depends on a constant state of imminent war to forge iron-like loyalty amongst the faithful, just as Trump has to lie about everyone else to inspire his troops. Get two forces like that colliding and bad things happen. Violence is the only sure means to end the standoff and Trump has promised not to do “regime change”. He’s in a bind of his own making, worse than Obama certainly.

    Worst case: NK figures Trump will take action to destroy the nukes ~January 20… NK decides to use them or lose them and takes out SK. Oops. See what unpredictability mixed with vitriol can do? In case folks don’t realize this is possible, consider that whatever defence USA/SK puts up, NK can launch a massive barrage of artillery as cover and fire their 6 or 8 nukes on short range weapons and waste several SK cities. In that case, SK would be gutted and likely overrun by conventional forces. If Trump decides to waste NK in that event, would China stand by? I don’t think so. They don’t particularly like Kim but they want a buffer between China and SK with all its capitalist ideas. Meanwhile millions are dead. Markets are in the tank. USA has probably lost a major source of supply/labour/trade. Nothing good comes from Trump being in power, not even in the short term.

  7. “Won’t happen” means, to anyone who’s not a butthurt communist like Pogson, “I will put a stop to this as soon as I am in power.” And if they don’t, we’ll get tough with them, now that the United States will have an actual leader in the Oval Office, instead of a communist socialist marxist terrorist hater of Western civilization. Too bad, so sad, Obama is evil, Pogson is stupid, North Korea will be dealt with. And it’s LINUX not GNU/Linux you stupid idiot.

  8. dougman wrote, “Comparing tactical nukes to strategic nukes is akin to comparing apples and orange”.

    Does anyone think it will make a nit of difference politically or militarily if NK launches any kind of a nuke at anyone? It will be the resumption of the Korean war at the very least and it could be the beginning of WWIII. If Trump stomps on NK, what do you think China/Russia will do? Further, NK does have a powerful army. If hot war breaks out there’s no certainty of the outcome without stern intervention by USA. They and the Chinese are the only ones close enough to intervene quickly. Trump says he doesn’t want “regime change” yet he talks about snuffing out folks like Kim. Is he all talk and no action or will he escalate to nukes in the first 15 minutes? Nukes are the only way Trump has to be sure to snuff NK. Nukes are almost certain to draw in China or Russia or both. Then a mess becomes a bigger mess.

  9. dougman says:

    Comparing tactical nukes to strategic nukes is akin to comparing apples and orange, or perhaps water melons, nonetheless your irrelevant. As neither the means or the will to pull the nuclear trigger, in doing so would be the end of communist reign.

    “I certainly don’t trust the judgment of an old fool who tweets against individuals at 0400 like it’s the most important thing in the world to him when decisions and consequences are flying by in just a few minutes. ”

    Hopefully, are you intelligent enough to realize that Trump does not send out his tweets. Pogsey, we have been over this in the past.

    “He doesn’t even own a desktop computer yet claims to understand more about hacking than the FBI…”

    Trump doesn’t need one, he has other people that informs him about this and that. Are you stupid or something? Well, ahem, you do believe whatever CNN shows you on your television.

  10. dougman wrote, “The United States Little Man atomic bomb was 9,700 pounds (4,400 kg) NET.”

    That’s not relevant. NK is using vastly different technology. Those bombs were built of steel and designed to be dropped. Most of that weight was the casing. NK is using rockets where the casing is made of lightweight material like aluminium/titanium. The “active ingredients” are probably different too. This is what the guts look like. That’s not likely more than a couple hundred pounds. It’s just a hollow sphere of explosives and fissile material.

    Pakistan, which likely has similar technology can make a nuke a foot in diameter… So, there are nukes and there are nukes. Clearly, NK can put something that will go BANG! on a rocket.

    How big or dangerous it will be is debatable but in the hands of a loon like Kim, it’s like kindling and matches in a powder-keg. Just what will Trump or any POTUS do if he launches something that looks headed for some USAian city or Tokyo? It’s not an existential threat to USA so a full-on nuclear response is probably not warranted but it’s an act of terror of the first order. It’s hard to see Trump doing nothing and the costs/results are completely unknown. Tit for tat… Escalation… China… Russia… Pakistan… India… Where will it end? I certainly don’t trust the judgment of an old fool who tweets against individuals at 0400 like it’s the most important thing in the world to him when decisions and consequences are flying by in just a few minutes. Will he act on a deliberate decision by a wise council or go with his “gut”? He’s happy to dis the CIA and others saying he knows better… He doesn’t even own a desktop computer yet claims to understand more about hacking than the FBI…

  11. dougman says:

    “Well, he’s just being silly as usual. NK has already put a satellite into orbit. Do the maths. ICBMs need less energy than that. It’s just a matter of payload.”

    Pogsey, I do believe you are suffering dementia.

    Both North Korea satellites, Kwangmyongsong 4, NORAD #41332 and Kwangmyongsong 3-2 #39026, are described as Earth observation satellites, and weigh about 200 kilograms (440 lb) and 100 kilograms (220 pounds) respectively.

    The United States Little Man atomic bomb was 9,700 pounds (4,400 kg) NET.

    I dare say that ~200-400 lbs. vs ~10K lbs. is vastly weight, and on top of that, the maximum range of the Taepodong-2 rocket is estimated to have a payload capacity of less than 500 kg (~1,100 lbs). which places it on the Alaskan continent.

    So in short, fat body Kim Jong-un, has a long-way to go before they are a verifiable threat by launching from North Korea.

Leave a Reply