Redo Election For POTUS

“The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.
 
Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials.”
 
See Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House
OK, the news that Trump and US national media and Twitter hammered on WikiLeaks for months to denigrate the Democratic Party, and that information was obtained by the Russians pretty well calls for the USAian public to be well-informed and another election held to decide properly. A re-do would also fix up the Comey letters to some extent. It may also help focus USA on the fact that Trump would rather be buddies with Russia than have a fair election. He’s a puppet in the making as things go with Trump refusing to be briefed on USAian intelligence on the matter or anything else.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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48 Responses to Redo Election For POTUS

  1. dougman says:

    Again, the know it all Canuck, knows more then a UK Ambassador.

    A little simple logic demolishes the CIA’s claims. The CIA claim they “know the individuals” involved. Yet under Obama the USA has been absolutely ruthless in its persecution of whistleblowers, and its pursuit of foreign hackers through extradition. We are supposed to believe that in the most vital instance imaginable, an attempt by a foreign power to destabilise a US election, even though the CIA knows who the individuals are, nobody is going to be arrested or extradited, or (if in Russia) made subject to yet more banking and other restrictions against Russian individuals? Plainly it stinks. The anonymous source claims of “We know who it was, it was the Russians” are beneath contempt.

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/12/cias-absence-conviction/

    The U.S. has no problems extraditing other hackers, so whats the problem with bring another one to justice, eh? Unless it’s all BS.

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2016/nov/14/amber-rudd-approves-lauri-love-extradition-to-us-on-hacking-charges

  2. dougman says:

    “Too bad for democracy.”

    America is a Republic, Robert,Let’s get things correct shall we? Canada is a Democratic Monarchy. You even claim oath to the Queen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdSyfEtA248 Huge difference wouldn’t you agree?

    “Don’t millions of voters count at all in your world?”

    The law is written on how elections are run, don’t laws count at all in your world?

  3. dugman wrote, “Popularity voting is not how elections are won in America.”

    Too bad for democracy. Don’t millions of voters count at all in your world?

  4. dougman says:

    Well, lets looks at the popular vote shall we?

    According to the Associated Press, Clinton won 487 counties nationwide, compared with 2,626 for President-elect Donald Trump. Popularity voting is not how elections are won in America.

    There are rules to the contest, and Trump won fair and square. The rest is just noise and sore loser whining. Sorry Robert, your crack-smoking queer is leaving and not going to be replaced by a lying lesbian traitor.

  5. dougman says:

    “Hillary won more votes than any male presidential candidate ever had”

    Subtracting the illegals and dead voters, it basically evens out Robert.

  6. kurkosdr, ignoring that Hillary won more votes than any male presidential candidate ever had, wrote, “her only big win was California”.

  7. Kurkosdr says:

    By the way, Bob, Hillary lost because the midwest wasn’t going to vote for her no matter what.

    Hilary didn’t lose only the Midwestern states. Basically, her only big win was California, where illegal immigrants are allowed to vote without an ID. One of the reasons even Republicans traditionally avoided saying the deport word was because they didn’t want to lose all those illegal votes from California. Trump was smart enough to realise that 1) the game in California is so much rigged it is not even worth trying and 2) many Americans are sick and tired when it comes to the blatant disregard of the law when it comes to immigration enforcement.

    Using those realisations, he crafted a campaign strategy that helped him win, instead of trying to pander to a state like California he doesn’t have a chance in like other Republicans did.

  8. Ivan says:

    This election is the gift that just keeps giving. By the way, Bob, Hillary lost because the midwest wasn’t going to vote for her no matter what.

  9. dougman says:

    Regarding the Democrats.

    We’ve suffered through 8 years of “Blame Bush” and now, rather than acknowledging their own bankrupt ideology, the democrats have moved on to blaming:
    -Fox News
    -the Russians
    -the Electoral College
    -fake news
    -Jim Comey
    -white Americans
    -the deplorables
    -and Facebook
    The democrats are bankrupt. When you have run out ideas, like a spoiled child, you seek to blame others for your failures.
    Sadly, it will never stop.

  10. dougman says:

    “Further, because someone was murdered walking the streets at 4am in a crime-ridden city doesn’t mean he was connected with WikiLeaks.”

    So, you honestly believe that a well-off white-dude is shot for non reason, whatsoever and left to die without stealing his watch or wallet? I call that HIGHLY suspicious.

    “WikiLeaks may have proffered a reward just to stoke the fires of your delusions.”

    Delusions? Excuse me, but ranting and raving on the web about your Cello and Odroid being servers, is indubitably “delusional”.

  11. Kurkosdr says:

    LOL…I am waiting to hear that as an excuse in some legal brief.

    Well, I do expect the Dem establishment to blame any kind of incriminating evidence found on their computers to Russian Hackers(tm) henceforth, so if soneone finds midget porn in the computer of some DNC member and his boss is vertically challenged, expect him to use the “Russian Hackers planted it to frame me” as the last resort excuse to get away with it.

  12. dougman wrote, “You make it sound like you are whipped and do not run you’re own home.”

    We agreed to no whipping decades ago. We are married and share the property with each other and our descendants and friends. Neither of us have absolute say in what goes on here although I do stay out of her way about a lot of things. I’ve planted trees where she doesn’t want them, not only to assert my independence but also because I like trees and it’s the right thing to do.

  13. dougman wrote, “those in the know and the majority of intelligent people in America, understand that a DNC insider is the culprit. Who is/was the DNC insider?”

    While an insider is very likely, it’s also likely that folks used easy passwords and an outsider became an insider… Further, anyone could be in the pay of the Russians. Further, because someone was murdered walking the streets at 4am in a crime-ridden city doesn’t mean he was connected with WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks may have proffered a reward just to stoke the fires of your delusions.

  14. dougman says:

    Yes, a Canadian knows more then everybody in the U.S. and states that the Russians did all this hacking, and upset the election. He knows this by watching CNN, the purveyor of fake news.

    Whereas, those in the know and the majority of intelligent people in America, understand that a DNC insider is the culprit. Who is/was the DNC insider?

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/10/assange-implies-murdered-dnc-staffer-was-wikileaks-source.html

    There were others, but he was made an example. Furthermore, he is what an ex. NSA analyst said:

    Willian Binney, the NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, who served as the senior technical director within the agency, who managed six thousand NSA employees, the 36-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency and the NSA’s best-ever analyst and code-breaker, who mapped out the Soviet command-and-control structure before anyone else knew how, and so predicted Soviet invasions before they happened (“in the 1970s, he decrypted the Soviet Union’s command system, which provided the US and its allies with real-time surveillance of all Soviet troop movements and Russian atomic weapons”) – says that Russia probably would not have used a “known” hacking method to gather and then leak DNC emails to sway the election.

    Instead – if it were Russia – they probably would have used a different, covert method, so people couldn’t see their fingerprints (like the U.S. did with the Stuxnet hack).

    Moreover, Binney said that he thought the hack may have been conducted by an NSA employee who was upset at Clinton’s careless handling of America’s most sensitive intelligence.

    On the other hand, the head of the organization which leaked the emails to the press – Julian Assange of Wikileaks – not only denied that it was the Russians, but has strongly and repeatedly hinted that the hacker was a DNC insider.

    When asked about these two – NSA leaker and DNC leaker – and Binney explained:

    Both are clear possibilities.

    Also, there could be other governments, groups or individuals that hacked into HRC [i.e. Hillary Rodham Clinton] or the DNC and had the emails. Now the question is who sent them to Wikileaks? It could be any one of them or as Julian [Assange] somewhat implied that it was an insider in the DNC.

    If the idiots in the intelligence community expect us to believe them after all the crap they have told us (like WMD’s in Iraq and “no we don’t collect data on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans”) then they need to give clear proof of what they say. So far, they have failed to prove anything.

    Which suggests they don’t have proof and just want to war monger the US public into a second cold war with the Russians.

    After all, there’s lots and lots of money in that for the military-industrial-intelligence-governmental complex of incestuous relationships

  15. dougman says:

    “Whaaa! Russian Hackers put midget porn in my work computer”

    LOL…I am waiting to hear that as an excuse in some legal brief.

  16. dougman says:

    “TLW likes that approach…TLW refuses to hold up…TLW to have her boulders…TLW fights to keep more”

    Why do you always have to inject your woman, into the conversation? You make it sound like you are whipped and do not run you’re own home.

  17. kurkosdr wrote, “Those Russian Hackers aired Hilary’s dirty laundry.”

    Well, that’s one way to look at it, but what about the GOP’s dirty laundry? Why didn’t the Russians release that, eh? That clearly tipped the scales and interfered with one side’s campaign. OTH there was plenty of Trump’s dirty laundry aired and millions did not seem to notice in their preference for ignorance instead of intelligence. Perhaps USA is getting the government it deserves, corrupt, ignorant, and destructive. What does it say to you that Trump is ignoring the huge USAian espionage/intelligence apparatus? He’s Putin’s puppet/traitor.

  18. kurkosdr says:

    Mainstrean media be like: “Whaaa! Whaaa! Those Russian Hackers aired Hilary’s dirty laundry. Never mind there is no concrete proof that Russian Hackers did it, and even if they did it still doesn’t count as interfering with the election since the voting process wasn’t affected, only some transparency added, let’s run the piece anyway and call it interfering with the election.”

    “Whaaa! Russian Hackers rigged the elections even in pen and paper states, we want a recount”

    “Whaaa! Russian Hackers put midget porn in my work computer

    “Whaaa! Russian Hackers ate my homework”

    Russian Hackers(tm) everywhere…

  19. dougman wrote, “I never once met anyone, having the need to weld those items.”

    Flagpoles are an obvious target of welders. Back in the 1950s I attended a 1-room school house with a nice flagpole in the yard. It was built like this: http://weldingweb.com/archive/index.php/t-53533.html, two pipes fitting one inside the other and welded. A visit to a scrap yard can often yield pipes that fit nicely. e.g. A 3.5″ schedule 40 pipe fits loosely inside a 4″ pipe. Line it up, hold it in position with shims or plug welds/bolts and finish with a fillet weld around the outside. Presto! A 30 foot flagpole. Of course one could do this with a drill and bolts but that’s not as durable with the bolts allowing movement/rust to cause trouble for the next generation. Now, you could weld it at the shop and drag a 30 foot fabrication to the site but that’s awkward. It’s much easier to carry two shorter pieces and weld them at the site. Swings are often bolted but welding is also better there. In the old days, one would just lash something up in mature trees but I have none of those yet… Further, once you anchor something in the ground, it’s a real pain if you have to uproot it to drag it back to the shop for repair/modification. Mobile welding is the way to go just like IT loves mobility.

  20. dougman wrote, “Planting twigs and seeds is not the way to go about planting trees.”

    It’s mostly about the money. I can buy a seed for a small number of cents, delivered. Even trees as young as two or three years can cost me ~$50. TLW likes that approach but she shops very carefully. I buy or gather seeds. Without such care we wouldn’t have nearly as many trees. I like trees.

  21. dougman wrote, “Must be all that cheep Chinese steel you buy off Alibaba.”

    Nope. I bought tons of cheap steel, from a government archive of all places, pallets full of nice epoxy-painted T-bars for cents per pound. I’m on my last 1000 pounds, though. I might have to buy some more steel before I die.

  22. dougman says:

    “Uh, grand kids swing, barbecue, tables/benches, flag pole, lamp posts…”

    I never once met anyone, having the need to weld those items. Must be all that cheep Chinese steel you buy off Alibaba.

  23. dougman wrote, “you should move the piece that needs to be welded to the welder.”

    Uh, grand kids swing, barbecue, tables/benches, flag pole, lamp posts… Some things are anchored in the ground already or are rather large to move. It’s not as if I have a crew working for me. Even TLW refuses to hold up her end unless it’s something she wants done. I could make bolted assemblies but then I’d have to drill holes and keep bolts around. I’d rather weld stuff.

  24. dougman says:

    “My garage is about at the centre of the lot and the furthest distance to the back corners is ~200 feet, so 50 feet would not do.”

    Ummmm..why in the hell would you drag your welder 200′ away, you should move the piece that needs to be welded to the welder. DERP.

    “Can I tell you how heavy/cumbersome 200 feet of 4X#8 cable would be?”

    LOL…#4 is nothing. Try moving two-miles worth of multiple runs 500MCM THNN, then get back to me. Better yet go play with the 500MCM cable that has a 2kV jacket, about the only way you can move it is with a forklift or tractor.

  25. dougman says:

    “Uh, someone trying to control competition from weeds and to loosen the damned clay a bit…”

    Planting twigs and seeds is not the way to go about planting trees. Actually if you want to learn about planting trees, read Akira Miyawaki.

  26. dougman wrote, “What is the two major factors that affects global climate the most?”

    SUN, probably is number one. I’d say cloud-cover would be next both reflecting sunlight and trapping heat.

  27. dougman says:

    “here, I’ve measured Global Warming.”

    Thats all fine and dandy, but let me ask you. What is the two major factors that affects global climate the most?

  28. dougman, ranting in the wind, wrote, “why should someone cultivate their ground, just to plant trees?”

    Uh, someone trying to control competition from weeds and to loosen the damned clay a bit…

    He also wrote this silly thing:“Seriously how much welding have you done over the past year to justify needing a home-made portable welder. It would be way more “efficient” to just buy a welder, a small cart and a 50′ power cord.”

    Uh, I’ve used 50 pounds of welding electrodes in the last few years, welding various repairs to equipment, a lifting frame and cart that allowed TLW to have her boulders where she wanted them, several scaffolds which recently were used to butcher a buck in the shelter of the garage, numerous work-tables in the shop and “greenhouse”, and a wall of sturdy shelves to hold stuff up of the floor of my workshop. I would have welded more but TLW fights to keep more than her half of the garage… I’m a welder among other things. It’s what I do. I’m getting low on E6011. Rather than paying several dollars per pound, I’m thinking of getting in a ton from China where the price is about $1/pound. Wrapped in plastic, the storage life is decades and the grand kids might grow up to be welders too…

    Oh, and another thing… My garage is about at the centre of the lot and the furthest distance to the back corners is ~200 feet, so 50 feet would not do. Can I tell you how heavy/cumbersome 200 feet of 4X#8 cable would be? That’s not mobility. That’s a millstone around my neck. Nope. I’ve already built the cart and just have to attach the wheels I’ve bought. Then I can hook up the tractor and tow it to wherever I need them to go, engine, alternator, switch gear, welder, supplies, tools and cables. Done.

  29. Here’s the data:

    There, I’ve measured Global Warming. My little piece is warming at the rate of +0.14C per annum. That’s probably OK for me but not my grandkids… 🙁

  30. dougman says:

    “I’ve cultivated the entire yard, the garden and prepared ground for hundreds of trees.”

    Cultivated for trees…TREES! LOL…I never met a landscaper that ever “cultivated” the ground, before planting trees. Tell me, why should someone cultivate their ground, just to plant trees? At most a sizable hole is dug, and the root-ball is buried.

    “It’s paid for itself and it’s still useful.”

    A rather dubious statement. I am willing to black, you are knee-deep in the red on that deal.

    “I may not cultivate much with it from now on because there’s no need”

    Just admit it, you never cultivated anything with it, nor will you ever will.

    “the engine will power my alternator for mobility in welding and backup power.”

    Another useless quest. Seriously how much welding have you done over the past year to justify needing a home-made portable welder. It would be way more “efficient” to just buy a welder, a small cart and a 50′ power cord.

  31. dougman wrote, “it’s very cold now there. Where is that global warming you keep talking about?”

    Moving cold air around is not the same as cooling the planet. The arctic air that normally hangs around the pole has slipped down onto the continent of North America. The pole is actually warmer than where I live but the planet certainly hasn’t cooled much.

    If you look at a 30-year summary of our temperatures, where I live, you see there hasn’t been a record-setting low temperature since 2000. All the record-setting low temperatures were set back in the 1960s except for a couple in the 1980s. I know. I was there. When I was a kid, it was cold. Now we get just a few cold days each year. We’ve only had two or three cold winters in the last 20 years.

    This cold snap is only shocking compared to other recent winters. It’s still a kitten compared to what I’ve experienced. A concrete measure of this is the cold-hardiness of trees. When I was a kid there were a lot fewer kinds of trees that would survive our winters. USDA describes my region as 3a, minimum temperatures of about -40C. We haven’t seen -40C for a decade. We now fit in zone 4a, minimum around -34C. When I went North in 1997, I experienced six weeks of -40C low temperatures. I’ve not seen anything like that in the South for a decade. It was routine when I was a kid.

  32. dougman wrote, “how much gardening did you accomplish with that silly walking tractor that you have never even used. Have you even tilled one plot or a single bed yet?”

    I’ve cultivated the entire yard, the garden and prepared ground for hundreds of trees. It’s paid for itself and it’s still useful. I may not cultivate much with it from now on because there’s no need, but the engine will power my alternator for mobility in welding and backup power. I might buy a new property in 2017 so the cultivator will be useful again. It’s a durable good.

  33. dougman says:

    “I like efficiency.”

    LMAO..thats the silliest thing you have ever said. With all the time and effort you put into useless things, you never, ever accomplish anything. Tell me, how much gardening did you accomplish with that silly walking tractor that you have never even used. Have you even tilled one plot or a single bed yet?

    “I live in Canada.”

    Yes, it’s very cold now there. Where is that global warming you keep talking about?

    “I can go see a doctor to take care of emergencies on a moment’s notice or schedule regular visits for long-standing issues and I get first-rate care.”

    Same here, I don’t need or want government intervention in my healthcare. Obamacare doesn’t help anyone!

    Latest example: https://imgur.com/a/BXQxa

  34. Wizard Emeritus says:

    “Your clown prince, Obama, is a socialist Muslim sympathizer and a crack-smoking faggot that has a tranny as a partner.””

    Nice bit of Chum Dougie..

  35. dougman says:

    If you meant to say, that his tax returns have not been published, well they were “leaked” and published already.

    http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/leaked-tax-returns-show-trump-paid-federal-tax-42519612

  36. dougman wrote, “I for one enjoy transparency in government.”

    Ah! So Trump’s income tax has been published. Can you provide a link? How do you think Trump won’t turn the presidency into his own slush-fund? Will you like your taxes going to support the retirement of him and his rich buddies?

  37. dougman wrote, “Your clown prince, Obama, is a socialist Muslim sympathizer and a crack-smoking faggot that has a tranny as a partner.”

    I suggest you see a doctor soon. Something is wrong with your brain.

  38. dougman says:

    “I love FLOSS for the same reason that I love MediCare.”

    LOL… there is no comparison between the two. In fact, we are on the cusp of open-source medicine.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/12/01/sydney-high-school-students-show-up-martin-shkreli-recreating-price-hiked-pill-for-2/?utm_term=.95de5687cacb

    Obviously, Fifi is no-where to be found in this article.

  39. dougman says:

    “So, you can refuse to acknowledge any expertise in your own government while calling them out on spying…”

    Obama said that, not the NSA. The NSA is 8-10 times larger then the CIA. Yes, I do call them out for capturing all tele-transmitted data and archiving it.

    Your clown prince, Obama, is a socialist Muslim sympathizer and a crack-smoking faggot that has a tranny as a partner. Knowing that, you you still admire the go speaks volumes of your character. But then again, you rather have a known globe-trotting liar that ruins countries for profit and accepts bribes from other counties as president.

  40. dougman says:

    “Don’t you recall that Trump etc. were quoting WikiLeaks dumps of Podesto’s e-mails for months during the election”

    Yep, but it’s not due to Russia hacking as the Left would have you believe.

    “that Wasserman-Schultze resigned?”

    She resigned for being publicly disgraced, resigned less than 24 hours after WikiLeaks posted dozens of emails showing her staff working to undermine the insurgent campaign of Bernie Sanders in order to aid a Clinton organization they often derided as inept and timid. Think about that. You condemn the disclosure and not the inappropriate action. Wasserman and DNC staffers had inappropriately backed Hillary Clinton in the primary campaigns while criticizing the Bernie Sanders campaign.

    “Don’t you think that affected the voting?”

    Yes, it affected the voting, but so what? Again, you condemn the disclosure and not the action; I for one enjoy transparency in government.

  41. dougman wrote, “you aspire to socialism”.

    Well… I’ve recently made a ton of money being a capitalist and I don’t intend to share much of it, so you’re wrong. I do think MediCare with a single-payer system is great because it minimizes costs and maximizes availability. That’s not socialism, but efficiency. I like efficiency. I live in Canada, and I can go see a doctor to take care of emergencies on a moment’s notice or schedule regular visits for long-standing issues and I get first-rate care, all covered efficiently by Canadian Medicare. I notice longevity in Canada exceeds that of USA by several years despite spending a fraction of what USA spends on healthcare.

    I love FLOSS for the same reason that I love MediCare. The world can and does make its own software and share it. That’s the right way to do IT rather than promoting monopolies all over the place. FLOSS is not socialism. Some of the largest and most capitalist corporations value FLOSS because it lowers the cost of IT while giving increased control/monitoring/quality.

  42. Oh, $#^^^$, dougman. Do you really believe all the crap you wrote?

    “Hacking DNC e-mails? Actually there is no evidence of this what so ever”.

    Don’t you recall that Trump etc. were quoting WikiLeaks dumps of Podesto’s e-mails for months during the election and that Wasserman-Schultze resigned? Don’t you think that affected the voting?

    Obama has just assigned a review of Russian hacking to affect elections.

    “As you all know, in 2008, there were intrusions into both the Obama and McCain campaigns. There haven’t been any noted episodes in 2012, but the President asked to go back, with what we know now, to make sure that we’re using every tool possible as a means of due diligence. And then, of course, in 2016, our intelligence community determined that there was malicious cyber activity intended to interfere with our elections. In the high confidence assessment that was released this past October, the intelligence community made very clear that this was activity directed by the highest levels of the Russian government.”

    So, you can refuse to acknowledge any expertise in your own government while calling them out on spying…

  43. dougman says:

    In addition Robert, since you aspire to socialism. Here is a small talk on why its bad for not only you, but for a country and the world.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIfj7UTl8Do

  44. dougman says:

    “How about hacking DNC e-mails denying you a free and fair election? Those other freedoms will fade when puppet-Trump decides he doesn’t need to follow guidelines for conflict of interest, nepotism, etc. and has his family business overthrow your whole government. After all if it “Makes America Great Again”TM it should be OK that you have to buy Trump products and no other, that you can’t criticize your government or politicians without fear of punishment and that you have only one party running the whole show right down to the courts…”

    Hacking DNC e-mails? Actually there is no evidence of this what so ever You heard this from CNN and just repeating what they tell you.

    No one denied me a free and fair election. I did not have to pay a dime, and the elections were fair. Donald Trump won 3,084 of America’s 3,141 counties; Hillary Clinton won just 57. By the way, Hillary spent $1.2B while Donald spent $600M and won, let that sink in.

    Puppet-Trump? LOL… oh lets see who are you going to say controls Trump? Putin??

    Trump decides he doesn’t need to follow guidelines? Oh which guidelines are those??Thumbing his nose at the press? GOOD, the press can go take a flying leap.

    Wait, you have some idiot belief that Trump and his family business is set to overthrow the U.S. government? Could you please elaborate on that further? How would he go about doing this??

    Trump products and no other? You do realize you just described socialism to a tee. Obamacare is a great example of this in fact.

    I can’t criticize my own government or politicians without fear of punishment? Did you fall off your rocker? Wow..people do this all the time in America and no one suffers for the worse. In fact, this is one of the reasons the Left wants to control the alternative news sources, as the Left cannot control its own narrative anymore. Example: They want to shut down Matt Drudge! MATT DRUDGE!!… all he does is post hyperlinks!..LOL.

    Only one party running the whole show right down to the courts. So?…that doesn’t bother me in the least. The next eight years should be great.

    In all honesty Robert, you sound like a butt-hurt millennial more then a reject pot-smoking flower-child of the 60’s.

  45. dougman wrote, “Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of the Constitution.”

    How about hacking DNC e-mails denying you a free and fair election? Those other freedoms will fade when puppet-Trump decides he doesn’t need to follow guidelines for conflict of interest, nepotism, etc. and has his family business overthrow your whole government. After all if it “Makes America Great Again”TM it should be OK that you have to buy Trump products and no other, that you can’t criticize your government or politicians without fear of punishment and that you have only one party running the whole show right down to the courts…

  46. dougman says:

    “Putin isn’t interested in trade but power over your freedom.”

    Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of walking out my door.

    Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of commenting on this blog.

    Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of taking a dump in the morning.

    Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of calling you and Fifi both loons.

    Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of using Linux.

    Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of building a REAL server.

    Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of calling BS on global warming.

    Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of tell Muslims to GTFO.

    Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of of speech?

    Please , inform me how Putin affects my freedom of the Constitution.

  47. dougman wrote, “Whats wrong with being buddies with Russia? I would prefer trade with Russia over war any day.”

    Putin isn’t interested in trade but power over your freedom. He’s winning, apparently, as you are so willing to be a slave to Putin through the puppet, Trump.

  48. dougman says:

    Ahem…FAKE NEWS Robert. It seems that only YOU pay any attention to CNN. Everyone that resides around the DC metro area, calls the Washington Compost that name for a reason.

    Fair election? That already happened.

    Hold another election? That’s not going to happen.

    Whats wrong with being buddies with Russia? I would prefer trade with Russia over war any day.

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