Collecting Recipes

I often cook without recipes. It saves time, I usually get it right and it’s just the kind of guy I am. However, with lots of fruit-bearing trees in the ground and a few more as seed and in pots, I’m heading towards a more mature future of fruit-processing. Preserving fruit on such an industrial scale raises the cost and inconvenience of not “getting it right”.

So, I seek recipes. I’ve long had ~100K recipes gleaned from the Internet in “MealMaster” format. I rarely use them quantitatively but simply as ideas for cooking. I was looking for information about Nanking cherries when I stumbled upon a blog containing recipes and related ideas. As a plus, it’s Candian…

I was pleased to read another authour who shares my taste and can thicken stuff without using retail pectin. A couple of days before I read those recipes, I had ordered some vegetable seed, Saskatoon, high bush cranberry and sea buckthorn seed. Life is good to have so many choices. I’ve rarely met a berry I didn’t like and along with apples, grapes, rhubarb, hazelnut, apricot and other cherries already growing here, my future is well fed.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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22 Responses to Collecting Recipes

  1. oiaohm says:

    Wizard Emeritus no he is just a absolute bigot.

    Taking part in dances is part of the way different native cultures here teach stuff and maintain knowledge of stuff. If that native culture says you dress or pigment yourself a particular way so you can is really no different to a school mandating a school uniform. You want to learn their survival skills you obey the rules end of story.

    By the way the dances are not joke particular the ones training on hunting kangaroos. Big Kangaroos can Kill Humans. So if you cannot do at least a section of the dance properly you will not go with them for particular hunts so you will not be able to learn large sections of their survival skills.

    If the idiot is not a bigot has to have a issue with school students wearing school uniforms as well. What might mean not a bigot but a pervert.

    One can only imagine Ham-Bone doing the moringa in a dance skirt.
    All I can take from this is you like wearing dance skirts for some reason. Not that the person you are targeting has that issue. A person insults are normally based on a persons own fears. So the insult line says you fear wearing skirts but also want to. So a closest cross dresser most likely.

  2. Wizard Emeritus says:

    “You know, for an ‘supposed’ educated person, Wizard , you repeat things quite a bit. Are you aware of that?”

    Very much so.

    And why do you think that is, Dougie?

  3. dougman says:

    You know, for an ‘supposed’ educated person, Wizard , you repeat things quite a bit. Are you aware of that?

  4. Wizard Emeritus says:

    Fishing again troll

  5. dougman says:

    Now the problem here is, you painted your face black for some native dance. One can only imagine Ham-Bone doing the moringa in a dance skirt.

  6. oiaohm says:

    Is this before or after you smeared black paint all over your face?
    Really being culturally unaware as normal.
    http://www.carbomask.com/black-face-paint-hunting-black-color-needed/
    Black paint all over face is part of hunting all over the world. When doing dancing depicting hunting processes its part of it. If you are white or dark-skined. Painting self whiter than whiter in native dances here means you are playing the weather conditions like lightning or storms. The difference here is black facing self to act as a hunter is not being insulting is it. So me turning myself black to take part in dance is just putting on the same stuff as you put on to hunt. Now the USA and UK usage of black facing so a person was pretending to be a race they were not is an issue.

    So colouring face black even in the USA has a valid usage. Name a dance in the USA that is a depiction of hunting.
    http://www.new-guinea-tribal-art.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ABORIGINAL-ART.jpg
    Wandjina that is way older than Gollywog by over 10000 years and part of the native culture here. At this point you have a problem. So them making dolls to look like Wandjina end up a lot like Gollywog.

    So the close to the same design has been created twice in human history. I could not remember the correct name before. To be truthful if you attempted to say Wandjina you would mostly likely say it wrong and thinking that one of their gods of creation its very offensive to get it wrong. So its less offensive to call a Wandjina doll a Gollywog here.

    The reality is you are now crossing threads to attempt to find something to win with.

    So every white hunting putting black face paint from your stupid logic is rasit. So you are still a super big idiot bigot.

  7. dougman says:

    “Neurotoxin has caused some of my problems I have been on the wrong side of southern death adder.”

    Is this before or after you smeared black paint all over your face?

  8. oiaohm says:

    Neurotoxin has caused some of my problems I have been on the wrong side of southern death adder.

    Encephalopathy has other causes other than aluminium toxicity. Yes some snake venoms do cause Encephalopathy Syndrome in more temporary ways and due to my prior run in I cannot rule out the possibility that I show symptoms. So I show some signs of the after-effects of snake bite.

    This is the problem with aluminium toxicity is that it can look to be other forms of neurotoxin exposure triggered Encephalopathy other than the fact form aluminium does not stop progression in 48 hours of treatment starting in fact takes months normally to fully stop progression. A person living in a house infested with particular moulds can also show identical symptoms so have a different form of Encephalopathy as well. The after effects of Encephalopathy is surprisingly common due to its many different causes. So how sure you do not have effects from it as well. You would be a very lucky person not to have any damage from one of the Encephalopathy Syndromes.

    This is why it kinda stupid to risk a Encephalopathy Syndrome by bad cooking methods there is enough risk of it without doing it by cooking.

    Yes all the Encephalopathy Syndromes have the same list of symptoms and side-effects. Only thing that changes is cause.

    Also to be fun depending on what medical book you read Dialysis encephalopathy may only exist to cover both Dialysis or eating Aluminium or the book might contain Dialysis encephalopathy for Dialysis caused and Aluminum Encephalopathy Syndrome for it caused by consuming aluminium in food tablets and so on. Other than how you get the Aluminium the end result is basically the same with same treatments.

    This is the problem with Encephalopathy Syndromes unless you can identify the cause it can be next to impossible to apply correct treatments . Even worse a person showing massive Encephalopathy Syndrome symptoms may be a mix of them. So minor exposures to many Encephalopathy Syndrome causes can basically produce the same result as massive exposure only one of the causes. This is also why it so hard to say what is a safe dosage of aluminium. The 1mg per kg is safe as long as you don’t have other causes in the mix. Because that 1mg per kg could the the straw that broke the camels back.

    To kinda show how common it is. Wernicke encephalopathy guess what that is. Yep nothing other than drinking alcohol too often.

    shows signs of aluminum toxicity
    LOL. Its impossible to diagnose aluminium toxicity by symptoms. So a person cannot in fact ever said to be showing signs of aluminium toxicity only a complete idiot would say this. A person shows symptoms of Encephalopathy Syndrome that Aluminium might cause so might be a lot of other things so might be dismissed for far too long.

    So really you are saying I have behaviours over 70 percent of the population has. Yes the effects of Encephalopathy Syndrome is that common. Just most cases not fatal. Nothing like proving yourself as a super big bigot.

  9. dougman says:

    Spammy shows signs of aluminum toxicity, that would explain his ‘weirding ways’.

  10. oiaohm says:

    Aluminium oxidizes on exposure to air. That’s exactly what “anodized” means, exposed to oxygen by electrolysis. I drink water from a well that is surrounded by clay, aluminium compounds like oxide and silicates.
    Kind of right and kind of wrong.

    Anodized aluminum cookware

    When aluminum is placed in an acid solution and exposed to an electric current, a layer of aluminum oxide is deposited on the surface of the aluminum. This process is called anodization.
    Read what you quoted.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anodizing Aluminium surface that is classed a anodized and safe has been chemically and electrically forced not got there by just exposure to air or boiling water. Sulfuric acid anodizing Type III is used on a lot of Aluminium cookware mostly to make a hard of Aluminium surface to be safe as possible possible. Aluminium oxidizing from exposure to air or just boiling does not produce the require surface density to be sure to remain safe. Yes making a safe surface on Aluminium requires electrolysis with acid to produce a hard oxide surface that acts kinda nonstick and is resistant to damage from cleaning and use.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC494487/pdf/jclinpath00492-0091.pdf
    Dialysis encephalopathy is the illness from Aluminium. All modern medical documentation says Aluminium is not link to Alzheimer’s disease because Alzheimer’s disease a protein issue. Now having Dialysis encephalopathy at the same time as Alzheimer’s disease will make Alzheimers symptoms way worse. Yet you still see a lot of people collecting money so call performing studies to attempt to prove link between Alzheimers and Aluminium while pretending Dialysis encephalopathy by aluminium does not exist.

    The World Health Organization estimates that adults can consume more than 50 milligrams of aluminum daily without harm.
    True but that is not the World Health Organisation limit.
    http://www.electrochemsci.org/papers/vol7/7054498.pdf
    But the target you should be aiming at is 1mg per 1Kg of body weight as that is what human body can cope with and is the World Health Organisation recommend limit. So the number of milligrams you can take is directly linked to your body weight. 50 milligrams+ presumes a adult weight more than 50 kgs.

    During cooking, aluminum dissolves most easily from worn or pitted pots and pans.
    Close missed one other problem. Worn, pitted or overly cleaned(wearing off oxide layer if it not hard enough) aluminum cookware is hazard.

    Something to be aware of is a worn, pitted or overly cleaned aluminium pot can be giving you dosages per meal at worst +500mg. You don’t weigh half a ton right.

    Yes tests on aluminium foil was down right scary.

    Aluminum pots and pans provide only one or two milligrams of the total.
    True if Aluminium pot is Anodised or has a decent oxide coating that has been handled correctly. Not even close for what a overly worn, pitted or excessively cleaned pot is going do. Non anodised is mostly banned here because if someone scrubs them too hard when washing up then does not go through a boiling process to fix the coating on non Anodised next meal using that pot could be fairly good aluminium overdose. Yes a true wash rinse repeat problem do that enough times find yourself well and truly overdosed on Aluminium.

    So Aluminium pots in good condition not a big problem. Aluminium pots in poor condition very big problem. Of course a Aluminium pot with a hard coating stays in good condition long.

    Really in most places still selling non-Anodised the properly Anodised are normally not that much more expensive.

    Something to remember when you exceed what human body can handle Aluminium accumulates. So any dosage greater than you body weight x 1mg a percentage will end up stuck forever more in your brain. Aluminium not something where having a high amount today can be fixed by having lower amount in future. Dialysis encephalopathy is not a disease to mess around with. The reality is Dialysis encephalopathy caused by Aluminium is fairly much not reversible and Alzheimer’s disease is appearing to be reversible at least to a point.

  11. oiaohm wrote, “Aluminium without coating or treatment is not that resistant to acids.”

    Aluminium oxidizes on exposure to air. That’s exactly what “anodized” means, exposed to oxygen by electrolysis. I drink water from a well that is surrounded by clay, aluminium compounds like oxide and silicates.

    Government of Canada:

    Aluminum
     
    Aluminum is lightweight, conducts heat well and is fairly inexpensive, making it a popular choice for cooking.
     
    Canadians normally take in about 10 milligrams of aluminum daily, mostly from food. Aluminum pots and pans provide only one or two milligrams of the total. While aluminum has been associated with Alzheimer’s disease, there is no definite link proven. The World Health Organization estimates that adults can consume more than 50 milligrams of aluminum daily without harm.
     
    During cooking, aluminum dissolves most easily from worn or pitted pots and pans. The longer food is cooked or stored in aluminum, the greater the amount that gets into food. Leafy vegetables and acidic foods, such as tomatoes and citrus products, absorb the most aluminum.
     
    Anodized aluminum cookware
     
    When aluminum is placed in an acid solution and exposed to an electric current, a layer of aluminum oxide is deposited on the surface of the aluminum. This process is called anodization.
     
    Anodized aluminum cookware conducts heat as well as ordinary aluminum, but has a hard, non- stick surface which makes it scratch-resistant, durable, and easy to clean. Anodization also reduces leaching of aluminum from cookware into foods, particularly acidic foods like tomatoes and rhubarb.”

  12. Wizard Emeritus says:

    “Failed import wizard, you don’t have any recipes to share? ”

    Nope. My time costs money.

  13. oiaohm says:

    http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2013/07/04/does-aluminum-cookware-pose-a-problem/
    Robert Pogson I would recommend you read this. That link does have the collections of the different studies on the topic. Aluminium without coating or treatment is not that resistant to acids.

    https://www.clemson.edu/extension/hgic/food/pdf/hgic3864.pdf
    This has the list of different common cookware types you find. Fairly much unless aluminium cookware has a treatment/coating of some form being either Anodised Aluminum Cookware or preferable safe Ceramic & Enameled Cookware it 100 percent should not be used. In Australia selling Aluminum cookware that

    Modular sunfish if Aluminium cookware is pitted its was either never Anodised or the Anodised process has failed. Pitted Anodised is no safer then never Anodised. Either way the response is the same. Dispose of any pitted Aluminium cookware as they are totally not safe to use.

    In Australia you cannot sell legally Aluminium cookware that is not either Anodised or with a coating. I don’t know about Canada it would be worth checking it should be law.

    Dialysis encephalopathy that Aluminium can cause in brain has symptoms very much like Alzheimers while Dialysis encephalopathy is in a mild form comes clear it not when both progress more. This was why when they were doing brain studies into Alzheimers there was a case of thinking it was linked to Aluminium at one point. Yes a few people brians suffering from Dialysis encephalopathy got mixed into the Alzheimers study. So Aluminium is really something not to take lightly. Want symptoms like Alzheimers without having Alzheimers over exposure to Aluminium is one way to achieve that.

  14. Modular sunfish says:

    These are good from most any berries, served hot in the cold times of the year, served cold in the warm time:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kissel

    Also a handful of fresh or frozen berries can be mixed into oat porridge, too.

  15. Modular sunfish says:

    Yes, but in practice, the aluminum becomes quite pitted with use, with the missing al going into the concentrate. The al dents easily from normal use, too.

    If you have good freezer space, the berries can be sealed and stored there for a year until you decide what to do. Pies are good, and most berries need only a sprinkling of sugar and no spice, so effort is needed to have a really good crust.

    Speaking of crust, if you can stand the enormous investment of labor required, making puff pastry by hand and then filling it with sweet berries (like black raspberries) is absolutely delicious when done right.

  16. Modular sunfish wrote, “be sure it’s stainless steel and not aluminum”.

    Both stainless steel and aluminium are quite resistant to acids. SS and Al both have a hard coating of oxide to protect the metal beneath. Aluminium is readily attacked by bases though, releasing hydrogen…

    My goal is to have more berries than I can deal with to provide for the birds in winter and some food-banks for the less fortunate. Fruit and fruit-residues also amend my soil.

  17. Modular sunfish says:

    If you’re making juice from the berries, you can use this kind of steamer effectively to extract a concentrate:

    https://mehuliisa.com/

    or similar, just be sure it’s stainless steel and not aluminum. With the berries, be sure they are all ripe or you will get jelly in the bottles. The juice concentrate will hold for up to a few years in cool, dark storage and often mellow with age.

    Some less sweet berries also lend themselves to making porridge with farina:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vispipuuro

    Some sweet berries with soft skins work well to make liqueurs, but that takes about four months. And since they’re sweet they’re good for only special, big meals as a dessert.

    Rhubarb can be cooked with bananas to make a most excellent jam.

  18. oiaohm says:

    Wizard Emeritus no he is fishing again because he totally cannot tolerate being pulled up on false facts. Those attempted insults is just another stupid fishing attempt.

    Its not like he is using any where near correct facts at the moment. Mind you one recipe that he wrote really describes him well. Instead of using fact is so dependant on fear and myth its not funny.

  19. dougman says:

    Failed import wizard, you don’t have any recipes to share?

    I can share one recipe as to why Spammy fails at life.

    1. 1-cup of Excuses
    2. A heaping of Blame
    3. 1 pot of Fear
    4. A smidgen of Doubt

    Bon Appétit!

  20. Wizard Emeritus says:

    fishing again Dougie?

  21. dougman says:

    BTW: College students agree – Women shouldn’t vote!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY1iBuKmktM

  22. dougman says:

    The question now is, will you give back to the community with any modifications to said recipe.

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