M$ Softens Its Heart Against FLOSS

Sam Ramji:

  • 2006 – told M$ that M$ would never be able to compete in the longterm without embracing FLOSS
  • 2006 – started collaboration with FLOSS for interoperability
  • 2007 – killed “Get The FUD”
  • 2009 – GPL contribution to Linux
  • Well, M$ have have softened but they can’t undo the harm they did for decades promoting the EULA from Hell and monopoly. They’ve lost my custom forever.

    About Robert Pogson

    I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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    7 Responses to M$ Softens Its Heart Against FLOSS

    1. Agent Smith says:

      To Oiahom:

      Man, Microsoft, right now, looks like US military trying to figure out an exit strategy of Iraq…
      And, that, hasn’t worked all too well, to this day, to US military.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American-led_intervention_in_Iraq_%282014%E2%80%93present%29)

      Let’s see what will MS do…

      Regards,

    2. Modular Sunfish says:

      Actually that 2009 incident was a GPL violation they got caught at and they only begrudgingly complied when forced to with all the grace of a small child forced to clean his room. In the end, it amounted only to code that ties the kernel to M$ products and even then the code was half-baked. They dropped it in the lap of Greg K-H who, and I have no idea what he was smoking, decided to spend his time to clean it up.

      M$ hasn’t changed, it has only dumped money into different PR campaigns than before.

    3. oiaohm says:

      That would make a lot of sense technically and in terms of efficiency but M$ is locked into their backwardness so it would be almost impossible to make a */Linux system behave like theirs.
      Sorry Robert kinda cannot agree.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longene
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NDISwrapper
      From what Longene and NDISwrapper was able to-do demoed that it was possible to make a */Linux system behave like windows kernel. Question is would anyone put in the require investment in time and resources to-do it.

      Its not like what dougman suggested here is impossible if you have a few billion dollars to throw at it.

      Microsoft currently interested in attempting the other way support Linux system calls on Windows kernel. Of course nothing will say if long term Microsoft will not end up in the Blackberry location where different parties stopped writing stuff for Blackbery OS but instead focused on Android because Blackberry added Android compatibility. In the end for Blackberry it came more important to have Android compatibility than maintain their own OS. Nothing says this could not happen to Windows long term.

      I do agree with Agent Smith about Microsoft when you look at how many patents Microsoft is still using against Open Source products did not not read like a very friendly company.

      I would say that Microsoft is still attempting to work out how it fits into the picture to remain profitable.

    4. dougman says:

      “but M$ is locked into their backwardness so it would be almost impossible to make a */Linux system behave like theirs.”

      That didn’t stop them with the Fischer-Price user interface in Windows 8/10 did it?

      People are tired of Windows, more I rad these days are Linux this, Android that, Chromebook deployments.

    5. dougman wrote, “M$ will one day abandon the NT kernel and adopt the Linux kernel as their own and dare anyone to sue them.”

      That would make a lot of sense technically and in terms of efficiency but M$ is locked into their backwardness so it would be almost impossible to make a */Linux system behave like theirs. Everything from the “backslash” to naming drives and file formats would have to change or be severely patched for every release/update. I doubt it’s clear that there would be any savings imitating TOOS via */Linux. Apple did something like that but they did it ages ago when their OS was much simpler and there was less lock-in/backwardness. That was, what, 15 years ago? That’s a lifetime in IT. How many generations of code-bloat has M$ been through since those good old days?

    6. dougman says:

      M$ will one day abandon the NT kernel and adopt the Linux kernel as their own and dare anyone to sue them.

    7. Agent_Smith says:

      Don’t be fooled. It’s all smoke and mirrors, after all, a tiger can’t erase its strips. But surely can hide its claws.

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