Wow! Republican Women Organizing To Support Hillary Clinton

“I can’t vote for someone like Donald Trump because he’s overtly racist and misogynist.”
 
See Republican women organize to support Hillary Clinton
Apparently, not all Republicans in USA are crazies, at least among women. In the primaries only about 40% of voters supported Trump. I guess there were a bunch of women in the “No” wing. If they decide Trump is a racist misogynist or a nut-case, he’s toast in the general election. The usual elections are decided on a tiny sliver of voters. Having sizable blocks shift support is a death sentence.

This is a good thing, IMHO. I hope it spreads to the Senate, the House and the South. USA might have a government that actually works next year. I’m sure Hillary learned a thing or two from Obama’s mistakes and her own. She certainly has made a few, but at least she’s capable of rational thought.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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20 Responses to Wow! Republican Women Organizing To Support Hillary Clinton

  1. dougman says:

    “How’s that working?”

    That’s Obamacare for ya. Who spends two weeks shopping for healthcare insurance? I surely don’t waste my time in such an endeavor.

  2. dougman wrote, “That is a non-sequitur, who in their right mind would prefer to pay a tax over healthcare.”

    Silly. So you waste two weeks shopping for healthcare insurance. Then you get ailment X and the insurance company says they don’t pay for that or they only pay for that in institutions P,Q, and R out of state… People are crazy to pay for patchwork healthcare when they can do one-stop shopping at Income Tax time. It’s easy. There are very few if any uninsured Canadians but ~10% of USAians have no insurance. How’s that working? Folks are paying far more for insurance premiums in USA than we pay for insurance included in our taxes. QED

  3. dougman says:

    “majority of citizens will prefer to pay income tax rather than “shop” for healthcare”

    That is a non-sequitur, who in their right mind would prefer to pay a tax over healthcare.

    Analogous to saying, one would prefer to pay for a root-canal versus spend a day at the massage parlor.

  4. dougman wrote, “You do realize that all these healthcare insurance companies, have every right to exist as you and I? Who would eliminate them? Government?”

    The vast majority of citizens will prefer to pay income tax rather than “shop” for healthcare with all the restrictions and fine print we hate in M$’s EULA, for instance. I remember life before medical care. It was not unusual for a person to have to balance the costs of medical care for family against other expenses of living, so homes were lost, families broke up, and folks with this insurance were prevented from getting treatment from that healthcare provider. Also, having hundreds of insurers is gross duplication. Universal healthcare insurance is necessary not optional and if you’re only going to have one, it might as well be the government, representative of the people rather than some soulless corporation. Ask yourself why USA has the highest healthcare costs in the world yet is not at the top of the heap for health. In Canada, for instance, medicare is not compulsory but it is freely granted to citizens. I don’t know anyone who is not signed up for the government plan. When it was first introduced, physicians hated it for the reasons dougman cited but now physicians almost universally love it because it greatly simplifies health insurance, a single form instead of a hundred in the office, for instance. No one had to outlaw health insurance in Canada. It just faded away. You can still buy health insurance widely, for travelling outside Canada, for instance. I never did that once.

  5. dougman says:

    “Eliminate all those redundant insurance companies”

    You do realize that all these healthcare insurance companies, have every right to exist as you and I? Who would eliminate them? Government?

    So you think they should nationalize “confiscate” them all and lead America down the Socialist road. Why stop at healthcare, eh?

    Take a read on Venezuela’s nationalizations under Chavez, VERY enlightening.

  6. dougman wrote, “Universal healthcare, well it does sound nice but in reality, it is not feasible at the moment. Americans are not interested in paying significantly higher income taxes to have ‘government-provided’ healthcare.”

    That’s just silly. “Single Payer” is much more efficient than the patchwork in USA today. Eliminate all those redundant insurance companies and their separate forms and this and that healthcare resource which works with one and not another… It’s total chaos. Single Payer is going to save a bundle in insurance premium and paid by a much smaller increase in income tax.

  7. dougman says:

    Universal education can be accomplished: Khan Academy and http://www.ronpaulcurriculum.com/

    Universal healthcare, well it does sound nice but in reality, it is not feasible at the moment. Americans are not interested in paying significantly higher income taxes to have ‘government-provided’ healthcare. National health insurance, or single payer, is a dream for many Americans, but if they actually comprehended what it will cost them, and the rest of the taxpayers, they may pause and reconsider.

    Britain has a relatively well-regarded universal healthcare system that every citizen pays for through national income tax. The tax rate for income tax and National Health Insurance in the United Kingdom (England) in 2015-16 for all citizens earning between zero and £31,785, considered basic-rate (flat rate) taxpayers, is a whopping 20 percent of their entire income. It is a full 15 percent more than America’s middle class tax rate and would entail a 20 percent tax hike for 45 percent of Americans who pay nothing now.

    Trump’s tax plan is simple.

    If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls.

    To make up the loss in revenue, import tariffs would be put in place.

    Americans will vote with their dollars and start buying American goods again.

    American factories will move back to the U.S. whereby increasing jobs for Americans.

    No one would will want to buy Chinese tractors off Alibaba, instead there would be a rush for used and new American built tractors.

  8. kurkosdr says:

    and ignore real problems like crumbling infrastructure and spotty healthcare, … stuff that matters. The solution is to do what Bernie suggests: provide universal healthcare, education,

    And who’s going to pay for all these? Or should the US print inflato-bucks for the foreseeable future and hope for the best? There were two countries that tried to convert themselves into a health care and education utopia without securing a reliable source of income first: Greece and Venezuela.

    Anyway, Bernie is out of the question for the next 4 years… choices are Trump, Hilary or some 3rd party. Do you have a suggestion among those for any US citizens reading or just want to sound smart?

  9. dougman says:

    “Just elect ordinary people not grinding some axe who will fix what needs fixing and leave everything else alone.”

    Well, good luck with that. You would have to REBOOT the entire country for that to ever happen.

  10. dougman wrote, “what IS the solution? In addition to that, can you define the problem?”

    The problem is that governments tend to respond to special interests who have money and ignore real problems like crumbling infrastructure and spotty healthcare, … stuff that matters. The solution is to do what Bernie suggests: provide universal healthcare, education, election reform and getting people out to vote. It is shocking that folks who think firearms should be restricted to good sane people will not vote so that folks supported by the NRA hold power… All people have to do is make sure the right folks are elected and a lot of problems would disappear. A really good start would be to vote for anyone not from Rs, Ds, or even Libertarians. Just elect ordinary people not grinding some axe who will fix what needs fixing and leave everything else alone.

  11. dougman says:

    ” Trump is part of the problem, not the solution.”

    Brain washed drivel, but I ask you dear sir, what IS the solution? In addition to that, can you define the problem?

    Can you describe the physical causation, that starts the problem? Very few can, very few.

    See, ingrained habits, not Donald Trump, are the real problem. The progressives are terrified of the wave of populism that may sweep Trump into office and undo decades of their destructive anti-American policies.

  12. kurkosdr wrote, “At least Trump doesn’t receive bribes from Wall Street and corrupt banks”.

    Ok. Let’s agree that politicians selling favours to moneyed interests is a bad thing. How in Hell is it better to have the moneyed interest actually running the White House? Trump is just cutting out the middle-men. Trump is part of the problem, not the solution.

  13. kurkosdr says:

    * Hilary receives her nomination

  14. kurkosdr says:

    BTW, this is why the Republican Establishment hates Trump so much… He is jeopardizing the donations coming from Wall Street and the corrupt banks to the Republican Party.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the choice of Trump to not receive bribes from Wall Street and the corrupt banks was a strategic decision, to have that trump card (pun intended) in his pocket. When he receives the nomination and Hilary receives his nomination, expect him to empty that clip on Hilary…

  15. kurkosdr says:

    a win in the elections = a win in the primaries elections

  16. kurkosdr says:

    All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

    Have you ever thought that the relative majority that gave Mr. Trump a win in the elections might think the same thing? At least Trump doesn’t receive bribes from Wall Street and corrupt banks, while Hilary does. Or you think bribes (“donations”) don’t influence politicians? If so, I have some prime Arizona beachfront real estate to sell you…

  17. dougman wrote, “We’re these “Republican Women” vetted by CNN as in fact registered Republicans? My intuition tells me they are Democratic plants.”

    Sigh… “The group included an unlikely gang of pro-Clinton foot soldiers, including a Mississippi-born Southern Baptist who got her start in GOP politics as an intern in the second Bush White House, a conservative health care policy analyst who has volunteered for anti-abortion causes and a former president of the Cornell University College Republicans.”

    Yeah, D plants all right… [SARCASM] These people hate Ds yet they hate Trump more. He’s a polarizing influence like I’ve never seen before. I’ve read of folks like Hitler and McCarthy and Goldwater. It seems Trump is as good as they get at inspiring love/hate. The national polls of diverse kinds show that Trump has huge negatives with women, D or R. Many hate that for which he stands. The fact that it’s hard to know for what he stands one day to the next is additionally troubling for anyone who wants confidence in POTUS. Would you want a drunken schizophrenic drug addict to have fingers on the button? Trump is as reliable.

  18. kurkosdr wrote, “the fact everyone from Wall Street to the media to the Republican party itself wants to stop him and is willing to pull every string and every trick is weird”.

    Nope. It’s a hopeful sign that Trump might be stopped at the convention or eventually prevented from becoming POTUS. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

  19. kurkosdr says:

    Let see, five Republican women in Washington have formed a group to support Hillary Clinton’s bid for the White House – as they think he is overtly racist and misogynist.

    CNN will make them look like 500.000 instead of 5, don’t you worry about that.

    We’re these “Republican Women” vetted by CNN as in fact registered Republicans?

    CNN will collaborate with the RNC to make sure they are registered republicans and make them look like old and highly-respected party members even if they registered yesterday, don’t you worry about that.

    I don’t like con-man Trump, but the fact everyone from Wall Street to the media to the Republican party itself wants to stop him and is willing to pull every string and every trick is weird. Did Trump receive too few bribes from the likes of Angelo Mozilo (or whoever replaced him at the chair), and hence doesn’t qualify under “Friends of Angelo” banner, and hence the “just bribe both” strategy could fail in the coming elections? Just wondering…

    PS: Hilary on the other hand, being the wife of the dude who destroyed the Glass-Steagall act (Bill Clinton), looks like a more safe bet for Wall Street… the irony is that “economic justice warriors” and SJWs will vote for Hilary because she has XX chromosomes or something…

  20. dougman says:

    Do you believe anything that CNN spews Robert?

    Let see, five Republican women in Washington have formed a group to support Hillary Clinton’s bid for the White House – as they think he is overtly racist and misogynist.

    We’re these “Republican Women” vetted by CNN as in fact registered Republicans? My intuition tells me they are Democratic plants.

    I’m not buying it.

    These are Democrats attempting to fool the public into believing they were Republicans at one time to sell this “misogyny” narrative.

    So it boils down to this woman voting with her “feelings” and not following her political beliefs.

    Slightly off-topic, but personally I believe she is mentally unstable in wanting to marry Long Duk Dong, which ties back in with this social group that does nothing, but make her look like a fool and will greatly impact her career.

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