2015, The Year Of Android/Linux In Asia


 
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We’ve known for several years that Android/Linux smartphones were very popular in Asia. One could choose any of the last few years to declare its year, but 2015 is special. According to StatCounter, in March Android/Linux got more page-views than “7”, M$’s most populous OS. I expect that Android/Linux has more growing to do in Asia so this may become the “Age”, “Decade” or “Century” of Android/Linux. It remains to be seen but times certainly are changing and for the better if you like competition, choice and low prices as I do.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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23 Responses to 2015, The Year Of Android/Linux In Asia

  1. oiaohm says:

    kurkosdr
    Which is the reason Chrome for Android is slowly becoming the IE5 of the mobile world.
    Not exactly true. Chromium for android first thing to consider.
    https://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/android-build-instructions

    If I wanted to rebuild IE internally for security reasons I could not. Chrome on Windows, Linux, OS X, Android and ios(apple devices) is exactly the same source code base being Chromium so yes you can rebuild the browser if you like.

    Next is the quality of tools. Yes from a Windows/Linux desktop version of Chrome you can emulate how your website will render on multi android and iphone/ipad devices due to the device mode. This brings you to the problem. The reason why other mobile device browsers are not doing as well as chrome is with them you have to device to see if your site renders perfectly or not.

    Firefox lacks the good device emulation mode.

    There is also a final nail in your arguement kurkosdr. When android was first release there was the android browser.
    http://www.guidingtech.com/23316/get-back-stock-browser-aosp-android/
    Yes how to install the old original Android web-browser on modern day android.

    Now if bundling with Android for a browser worked like the bundling of IE5 with Windows we would be talking about ASOP Android browser being dominate not Chrome for Android.

    Chrome for Android is in fact evidence that people are more interested in cross platform support.

    Please also note you can un-install Chrome off an Android device and not disrupt functionality of any other application. Google is not following the Microsoft model in lots of places.

    Basically kurkosdr your argument that Chrome on Android is like IE5 historic event does not hold up to inspection. What is shows is browser competitors to chrome need to lift their cross platform support and emulation modes.

  2. oiaohm says:

    Robert Pogson its normal DrLoser the troll to rewrite what a person as written to attempt to make out they are wrong.

  3. DrLoser, circling the drain, wrote, “It isn’t enough to bleat “not so,” Robert. You actually have to cite evidence.”

    He also cites the same evidence I did. Hmmm…. <<:-)

  4. DrLoser says:

    Not so. They [DigiTimes] are well-respected and connected.

    It isn’t enough to bleat “not so,” Robert. You actually have to cite evidence.

    Here, I’ll help you out to start with.

    Both the “well-respected” part of your claim and the “connected” part of your claim are presumably only verifiable when measured against the PRC.

    Don’t see how you can use this claim against Kurks’ proposition, myself.

  5. kurkosdr wrote, ” Digitimes is a rag with no reliable sources which reprints every wild-a$$ rumour they hear on some factory floor in Asia.”

    Not so. They are well-respected and connected. Further, they translate them into English for our benefit. People actually pay for the information. By some standards, that’s a figure of merit.

  6. kurkosdr says:

    Oh, and Digitimes is a rag with no reliable sources which reprints every wild-a$$ rumour they hear on some factory floor in Asia.

  7. kurkosdr says:

    Microsoft stands no chance in the mobile market.

    Which is the reason Chrome for Android is slowly becoming the IE5 of the mobile world.

    The Evil Monopoly II: The wolf in FOSS clothing that every FOSS sheep cheers for.

  8. ram’s link: “The sources believe Xiaomi will likely release a 15-inch notebook as it is the mainstream size in China and will adopt Linux operating system. The notebook is estimated to be priced at CNY2,999 (US$471) and will heap pressure on competitors’ simliar products priced between CNY4,000-6,000.”

    I’d seen that but missed the “Linux” part. Thanks. Yes, price matters. Yes, with GNU/Linux prices can be lower, much lower… 🙂

  9. dougman says:

    After five-years, I do not see M$ being relevant anymore.

    Fifteen years, I doubt they will even exist still.

  10. ram says:

    I just received a newsletter from a Chinese supplier offering iPhone semi-clones (they actually run Android not iOS) for less than USD37 each. Now that is a price differential! Apple is going to have problems competing with that, but Apple is similar to Rolex in that they understand they are selling a fashion accessory. Microsoft stands no chance in the mobile market. Their desktop market is eroding by the day. They are even losing the “gamer” market which is evident by the extremely deep wholesale discounts being offered for “gamer keyboards” and the like. Since, for the most part, Linux drivers don’t exist for those devices they are simply not selling at any price.

  11. kurkosdr says:

    @dougie

    The cool “run Android apps on your Chrome OS” feature is proprietary code and not available in the open-source clones of Chrome OS.

    Google forked desktop linux, gave it a new API and is ready to use their weight to throw it on the market, and you FOSSies didn’t even notice.

    Much like they replaced open web standards with Pepper and NaCL and you FOSSies didn’t even notice.

    So, do you mind of I ask, if this Chromedroid thingie for desktops and laptops becomes the roaring success you fantasize about, what prevents Chrome and it’s EEEs over web standards become the new IE and ActiveX respectively?

    Be very careful about what you wish for.

  12. kurkosdr says:

    M$ offered their Cloudbooks for $169

    On my Z70-80, theWindows Update mandated reboots are still a snoozefest. Yes on the “speedy” Windows10. Don’t want to think how slow they are on a$ 169 “cloudbook”.

    Microsoft attempting to shoehorn Windows into Android’s market is like Sun Microsystems trying to shoehorn Solaris into the PC market back in those days.

  13. antifanboy says:

    “But I jest. Incompetence is your middle name, Dougie. We are all aware of that. Particularly the ex-customers of Jet Technologies, or whatever that shingle was.”

    You mean Jet Computing.

  14. dougman says:

    First it was “Android is not that important”, then it was “Android is NOT Linux” and now that ChromeOS (Gentoo – a Linux distribution) is merging with Android, a popular mobile OS that has Apple and M$ beat combined, Loser states that it is of no significance.

    Let’s see, 1.6M apps for Android combined with a popular laptop OS that does suffer the Woes of Windows and you get something VERY desirable. M$ doesn’t even have a mobile device that anyone wants.

    M$ offered their Cloudbooks for $169, but people complained about the speed and battery life of the device. The equivalent Chromebook is $129 and when ChromeOS and Android merge, this will be one more strike against M$.

    Competition is a great thing! Seriously who wants to spend $1000 on a Surface Pro 4 when you can purchase six Chromebooks.

  15. DrLoser says:

    To all the naysaying trolls on here:
    Dog Brain is equally as incompetent as Fifi when it comes to linking to a cite

    But I jest. Incompetence is your middle name, Dougie. We are all aware of that. Particularly the ex-customers of Jet Technologies, or whatever that shingle was.

    Nay? Nay, not nay. Yay! says I.

    Ooh, the almost inconceivable power of a thin-client laptop that will, by 2017, be able to operate also as a mobile phone! Imagine the proliferation of FLOSS fart-apps!

    No, wait, you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between the 3,000 fart-apps in the Android Store and the 3,000 fart-brained apps in, say, the Debian Repository.

    I can’t imagine why any of us pooh-poohed the idea, Dougie.

    Mostly because not a single one of us ever did.

    But I appreciate you giving me this opportunity. A disruptive technology, this ain’t.

  16. oiaohm says:

    kurkosdr interesting enough not true.

    Have you not notices that you can adb shell locally on a Android device if user enabled the right options. Its technically possible for anti-virus firms to provide work around patches to a lot of issues on Android but have not. Yes it would require .

    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2604727/how-can-i-connect-to-android-with-adb-over-tcp

    I told you a while back you could fix these issues using adb shell from a PC. Of course I left out that its fully possible to apply adb alterations from the device itself.

    Custom roms are not required to address the issues in most cases. TCP adb shell can be used from the Android device itself to alter the enabled feature settings. But to do this requires enabling ADB in the settings. So only a person with direct access to the device can change these settings.

    Android design for security is quite solid but a complete pain in ass to operate.

    Claiming person not techie enough to apply the alteration is correct. Claiming usage of custom rom or other highly risky moves is required is completely bogus.

    Of course the not techy enough is a issue of lack of anti-virus firms or google providing simple tool that walks user through process of disabling the compromised features.

  17. kurkosdr says:

    How many of those cheap pieces of crap get timely security updates, Bob?

    Someday, someone will build a worm which will propagate among Androids (using MMSes or emails) and users won’t be able to even patch their devices without installing ultra-buggy “custom ROMs”.

    Since priviledge-escalation techniques are known in the Android system, and since StageFright has enough permissions by itself, all it takes is a way to break Android’s ASLR, which is small for the 32-bit hardware version.

    Also, I think I ‘ve found two questions that make Mr Pogson silent:

    What do you recommend to a friend or relative who owns an Android phone with 4.3 or earlier, uses it to surf the web, and doesn’t want/isn’t techie enough to install another OS on the phone or mess with ultra-buggy custom ROMs?

    Why do you group all Android versions together but you don’t group versions of Windows together?

    For example, look at the remarkable Pog silence in this topic, despite it being a post with a statcounter graph in it.

  18. Ivan says:

    How many of those cheap pieces of crap get timely security updates, Bob?

  19. kurkosdr says:

    You do realise you have not answered the question of why you group all Android versions together but you don’t group versions of Windows together, right?

  20. kurkosdr wrote, “Windows 7 is A VERSION of Microsoft’s most populous OS”.

    “7” is not just a version but the most populous version. A few years ago M$’s OS had ~95% share of everything, now it’s closer to 50% share. The monopoly has faded. Deal with it.

  21. kurkosdr says:

    Windows 7 is A VERSION of Microsoft’s most populous OS, while Android is Google’s most populous OS.

    Please be an honest person and compare a version of Android (any one you want) with a version of Windows , or Android with Windows.

    Or you can keep misrepresenting reality and see if reality cares.

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