The Strength Of THE Monopoly

It wasn’t long ago when the strength of M$’s monopoly on the desktop was extremely strong and GNU/Linux was rarely encountered. M$’s recent quarterly report to the SEC shows a much different situation today:

  • “Office 365 Consumer subscribers increased to 18.2 million, with approximately 3 million subscribers added in the quarter.” Yes, consumers see M$’s office suite as essential… [SARCASM]
  • Revenue and margin for “Personal Computing” were down 12% compared to the same quarter last year. Yes, they are having to work for a living.
  • “Cost of revenue decreased $1.1 billion or 13%, mainly due to lower phones sales.” Nothing new here then… 🙂
  • “Windows revenue decreased $322 million or 7%, mainly due to lower revenue from Windows OEM and patent licensing. Windows OEM revenue decreased $189 million or 6%, driven by declines in the business and consumer PC markets. Windows OEM Pro revenue declined 7%, slightly ahead of the performance of the business PC market.” It’s not just about consumers.
  • Almost 100 lawsuits were active against M$. Many were settled out of court but no one is afraid to sue M$ these days.

So, times are changing. M$’s is not the default OS any longer. Consumers have choice. Even businesses have choices. The slaves are being freed. The monopoly is not dead yet, unfortunately, but it is on its death-bed. They have a tidy nest-egg in the mattress, so I wouldn’t worry too much about their families while the rest of us enjoy fresh air in the market for IT.

See M$’s Form 10-Q

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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30 Responses to The Strength Of THE Monopoly

  1. oiaohm says:

    Show me the dollar value to a business consumer on the Cloudz, Fifi.
    DrLoser who is FIFI

    I will wait for FIFI to answer that question before I answer it.

  2. DrLoser says:

    No when will there be a post where I say something perfectly correct that you will call invalid. AWS uses a Xen based hypervisor that has memory compression. Vmware has the patent on this. The patent is only free to those who open source their hyper-visor and Microsoft does not pay for the patent or open source their hyper-visor.

    So what?

    Who cares?

    Show me the dollar value to a business consumer on the Cloudz, Fifi.

  3. oiaohm says:

    Deaf Spy really I would not party too soon.

    Tell me, Fifi, is there a single topic where you won’t say something utterly stupid?
    No when will there be a post where I say something perfectly correct that you will call invalid. AWS uses a Xen based hypervisor that has memory compression. Vmware has the patent on this. The patent is only free to those who open source their hyper-visor and Microsoft does not pay for the patent or open source their hyper-visor.

    Large clouds like AWS are constant fight over Performance per Watt. Better that is the lower you can charge out your services and make a profit.

    Excellent, little one. And how does that help Linux conquer the world? MS seem to be at a very good position when their biggest cloud rival supports their technologies.

    http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/539633/amazon_vs_google_vs_windows_azure_cloud_computing_speed_showdown/

    Wacky performance comes out of the fact Linux kernel compressing memory is hiding under Amazon. Yes 2 core Amazon is 2.5 the performance of a 1 core on Amazon. Yes these strange performance speeds happen even when running Windows instances on Amazon and other hosting providers using Linux linked hyper-visors.

    Yes Amazon support Microsoft but this is to service client needs. The reason why Amazon and others can run Microsoft products faster than Microsoft is Open Source patent licensing.

    There was a reason why I uploaded some benching packages Deaf Spy to know what combinations are cost effective.

  4. Deaf Spy says:

    Line of business integration is something AWS turns out to be very good at.
    https://aws.amazon.com/windows/

    Excellent, little one. And how does that help Linux conquer the world? MS seem to be at a very good position when their biggest cloud rival supports their technologies.

  5. Deaf Spy says:

    The issue AWS beats Microsoft cloud offering due to memory compression so the same size allocation in AWS does more for same dollars.

    Bwahahahaha!

    Tell me, Fifi, is there a single topic where you won’t say something utterly stupid?

  6. dougman says:

    What was the point of bringing them up? Obviously, you missed the forest for the trees. That being and most salient, that Microshit does not have the same monopoly strength as it did in the past. AWS has Azure beat hands down, take a look.

    http://www.datamation.com/cloud-computing/azure-vs.-amazon-aws.html

    Making acquisitions, and then pigeonholing them into the Windows-Office stack will only work for so long.

    Microsoft has three items that are going against it.

    1. Its reputation as unreliable OS. People simply did not want viruses and a crashing OS anymore.
    2. Windows 8 was a total bomb.
    3. By the time Windows really got into mobile devices Apple and Android were already dominate in the market.

    Here is a great breakdown of the ills Microshit must come to terms with in the long term and perhaps they understand this by releasing office apps for Android.

    http://ben-evans.com/benedictevans/2015/7/8/capitulation

  7. oiaohm says:

    The issue AWS beats Microsoft cloud offering due to memory compression so the same size allocation in AWS does more for same dollars.

    Also AWS has broader product range so more Linux and more Windows options so more likely to support your Line of business requirements than Microsoft offerings allown.

    This is not bloat. Like if you are using sugercrm for instance. That is registered partner for AWS and rackspace but running in Microsoft offering pot luck.

    Those 530 new features AWS added was so they can service their clients demards.

    DrLoser basically as normal you have attacked without doing any homework at all. Every point that you attacked was solid and explaining for why Microsoft is falling behind.

  8. oiaohm says:

    DrLoser shut you idiot comments up.

    Line of business integration is something AWS turns out to be very good at.
    https://aws.amazon.com/windows/

    Customer: Can AWS interface with my current LOB apps?
    Marketroid: Dunno. What’s an LOB app anyhow? But, but, we have 530 more features than last year!

    There is absolutely no place for deformation like this DrLoser.

  9. DrLoser says:

    After adding 530 new features, AWS sales increased 15% vs. the previous quarter, and 78% versus the previous year.

    Way to go to sounding like a Bezos Marketing Weenie, Dougie.

    Now, children … can any of us name a single one of those “530 more features?”

    Thought not. So what was the point of bringing them up?

    Customer: Can AWS interface with my current LOB apps?
    Marketroid: Dunno. What’s an LOB app anyhow? But, but, we have 530 more features than last year!

    Funny how some sorts of bloat get Freetards to wet their pants, and yet others are despised, isn’t it?

  10. Deaf Spy says:

    Yes duck-typing happens at run-time but the code to allow duck-typing is generated at compile time

    Bwahahahahaha!

  11. Deaf Spy says:

    Office 365 Consumer subscribers increased to 18.2 million, with approximately 3 million subscribers added in the quarter.” Yes, consumers see M$’s office suite as essential… [SARCASM]

    This is not even funny, Pogson. Perhaps you might be surprised, but with the exception of the cheapest package out there (which is for businesses, mind you), all other offerings, including for home usage, provide you with the license for the desktop suite.

    Gosh, Pogson, you are getting dangerously close to Doguie…

  12. dougman says:

    Let’s see, Microshit reported earnings that were higher than analysts expected. This surprised people so it’s equity had big jumps. But, unfortunately, Microshit is in a growth stall and unlikely to sustain higher valuations over the long term.

    https://hbr.org/2008/03/when-growth-stalls

    Microshit also beat analysts’ quarterly earnings expectations. But it’s profits were up a mere 2% and revenues declined 12% versus a year ago, proving its growth stall continues as well. Although leadership trumpeted an increase in cloud-based revenue, that was only an 8% improvement and obviously not enough to offset significant weakness in other markets:

    – Office consumer revenue declined 13%
    – Office commercial revenue declined 2%
    – Windows OEM revenue (sales to Lenovo, HP, etc.) declined 6%
    – Surface sales declined 26%
    – Mobile phone sales declined 54%
    – Despite announcing 18,000 layoffs previously, another 1,000 new layoffs were also announced

    It is a struggle to see the good news here. Office 365 revenues were up, but they are cannibalizing traditional Office revenues – and not fast enough to replace customers being lost to competitive products like Google and LibreOffice alternatives.

    Azure sales were up, but not fast enough to replace declining Windows sales. Further, Azure competes with Amazon AWS, which had remarkable results in the latest quarter. After adding 530 new features, AWS sales increased 15% vs. the previous quarter, and 78% versus the previous year. Margins also increased from 21.4% to 25% over the last year. Azure is in a growth market, but it faces very stiff competition from market leader Amazon.

    So in closing.

    1. Profits can increase for a raft of reasons, which having nothing to do with long-term growth and sustainability.
    2. Long-term growth requires expanding the sales base with new products and new customers.

  13. oiaohm says:

    ASP.NET, Sharepoint
    kurkosdr Really are you sure. ASP.NET due to Linux dominance is becoming more Platform neutral. Sharepoint there is a open source application that emulates it and Libreoffice connects to it.

    This is the catch the list of reasons to buy windows just keeps on getting shorter. Sogo with openchange can pretend to be exchange. Alfresco pretends to be sharepoint. Samba is getting better at ADS all the time. The reality is current day Linux stuff can match up to the old SBS Windows server software.

    Apple, Intel and AMD revenue streams are based around provide real hardware.

    Google and Facebook are based around content provision and acquirement.

    IBM is based around support and hardware.

    Oracle is kinda unstable as it based around software, support and a minor bit of hardware.

    Microsoft is heavily focused on Software. Content provision Microsoft is attempting to get into with cloud services.

    Microsoft is having sections of it collapse. The problem with trade secrets as a money making game one day someone insists that the task is done as per a standard so making the trade secret worthless.

  14. kurkosdr says:

    I am talking = Am I talking

  15. kurkosdr says:

    No amount of accounting paper shuffling and money printing can keep an economy and society together.

    So I guess Intel, AMD, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple, Oracle, IBM, Tesla Motors, Amazon and Adobe have no real revenue sources and are just “paper shuffling”? I am talking sense Mr Tinfoil-hat waiting for the economy to collapse because he is jealous of people becoming rich and successful CEOs?

    If anything, it’s China that’s on the verge of collapse, because all those English-speaking companies who according to tinfoil hats are collapsing and some Japanse and some South Korean companies too are moving out of China and their backwards regime that encourages IP theft and are into other countries like India and Vietnam (my SGS III is made in Vietnam) to make their gizmos (and then pocket the large margins).

  16. ram says:

    That last post should read:

    It is not a “conspiracy-theory”, it is just some relatively recent changes to accounting regulations. This happened with the transition to “International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS)” in the English speaking world around the years 2006-2009. (Yes, one could argue the lobbying by certain corporate entities that fundamentally changed to rules to legalize a form of fraud was a conspiracy, but then any political party or lobby group engages in conspiracy by definition.)

    No amount of accounting paper shuffling and money printing can keep an economy and society together. The English speaking world is no exception.

  17. ram says:

    It is not a “conspiracy-theory”, it is just some relatively recent to accounting regulations. This happened with the transition to “International Financial Reporting Standards (IFRS)” in the English speaking world around the years 2006-2009. (Yes, one could argue the lobbying by certain corporate entities that fundamentally changed to rules to legalize a form of fraud was a conspiracy, but then any political party or lobby group engages in conspiracy by definition.)

    No amount of accounting paper shuffling and money printing can keep an economy and society together. The English speaking world is no exception.

  18. kurkosdr says:

    It is bound to collapse soon.

    The thing is that you economy conspiracy-theorists have been prophesying the fall of the USA and UK for the last 50 years.

    And BTW, I understand some company like HTC being on the verge of collapse and kept together via book cooking, but even if we assume Microsoft is cooking the books, do you really think it’s on the verge to collapse. Let me give you a hint: Microsoft could launch a Windows 11 whose installer does nothing than write really long lorem ipsum texts on the harddrive, and Microsoft will keep making billions for another decade because of all the companies that are obligated (in the purest sense of the word) to buy Windows 7,8 and maybe even 10 licenses because of the compatibility with win32, ASP.NET, Sharepoint etc

    To put it in perspective: Unisys still makes money.

    Did I sufficiently dispell your MicrosoftIsDyingâ„¢ myth?

  19. oiaohm says:

    In plain English, Microsoft has joined the Desktop Linux crowd into constantly upgrading users via a “rolling” scheme, without guaranteeing app or driver compatibility.

    kurkosdr Linux/Unix world has always had chroots. So it been possible to produce non updating instances to run particular applications under Linux and Unix. So rolling scheme under Linux has only fully applied to drivers and part to Applications.

    This new Windows 10 idea does not seam to include any option to go non rolling for an application like Linux Distributions include. Yes non rolling is a pain in ass to set up.

    I have Debian stable installed in Chroot at the moment to run Digikam while everything else is Debian testing.

    Windows 7 and 8 has not had a stable runtime either. Windows 10 Microsoft admits the case.

    https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Emscripten
    The is an interesting point. Stable ABI might turn out to be build application to run in web browser. Of course if core applications end up running in web browser it will not matter what the OS is that much.

    Also remember with Linux is has been able to run old kernel with newer runtime so you can use older drivers. Yes you have to lock parts but its has been possible. Problem Windows 10 you don’t have the controls to lock parts like this.

    Linux might require skill to get around it issues. Windows 10 skill cannot save you.

  20. ram says:

    Actually Microsoft’s (and many other “tech” companies) financials are worse than they appear. For one thing they book patent and trademark licensing fees (which are really expenses) as assets. So while such fees diminish the organization’s ability to service debt their book value continues to go up. The practice is widespread and often done “round robin” so all the participants can show increasing book values in the absence of genuine earnings. The economies of the English speaking world have very largely become “a paper moving fantasy”. It is bound to collapse soon.

  21. oiaohm says:

    http://mrpogson.com/2015/09/06/php-responding-to-competition-improves/

    Sorry DrLoser this post is still open to new posts.
    Show me a single standards-compliant C compiler with the K&R switch turned on, and I will admit that you are right and I am wrong.
    Solaris complier 1993. Had a K&R switch and an ISO switch. Same with many other Posix compliers because first standard Posix is prior to C89. IEEE Std 1003.1-1988 to be exact states K&R C listing particular book references. Gcc is an exception in Posix compliers for not having a K&R mode. Ansi and ISO standards for C compliers come after the Posix standard has in ISO already define C as per K&R. 1988 posix= K&R.

    Yes
    void f(void x) {}
    void main(){
    void y;
    f(y);
    }
    Build with lot of those early K&R C posix compliers. Next posix release after IEEE Std 1003.1-1988 is IEEE Std 1003.1-1991 and it states C as C90. So the Posix valid forms of C are K&R, C90 and C99(mentioned in the newer again Posix standards). The Posix standard does not mention Ansi C89 at all. Ansi C89 rides the shirt tail of C90 and Posix by in 1991 make itself the same as C90.

    Those migrating code from Solaris and other Unixs to Linux from time to time run into this void code issue due to the fact Posix compliers 1988 were K&R. Yes K&R C complier is sometimes called a Posix C complier because it was as Posix 1988 how it entered ISO standards. Yes having a ISO standard conforming complier being K&R is nothing surprising.

    DrLoser I have given you the complier. Now are you going to admit on this point at least you have been absolutely wrong. C89:1990 compliers are a evil rarity from embedded and modified GCC. K&R compliers due to being 1988 posix standard requirement there are quite a few of them. The difference meaning of void is in 1988 posix being void equals address. Most people miss that you see Unix platforms start off stating Posix then state Posix 1991 or latter. IEEE Std 1003.1-1991 support or latter claim allowed a Unix platform to drop K&R support out their complier.

    Duck-typing occurs at run-time. Not at compile-time.
    Yes duck-typing happens at run-time but the code to allow duck-typing is generated at compile time. So forbidding/allowing duck typing is a compile time action. Reality here is DrLoser has a false understanding of ducktyping because he has never done it manually to be aware how much of duck-typing is compile time set up. So you are miss understand what the 17 example is showing you. If you swap that 17 for a scalar instead the code still refuses to build. Why type miss match detected by complier blocks ducktype conversion from happening.

  22. kurkosdr says:

    Yes, Windows 10 will be the LAST Windows. Microsoft will not be building anymore versions after this, so buyer beware!

    They are moving to a “rolling” scheme, which is something you FOSSies apparently worship. That’s what you get from actually reading your link (please do that). Unless you think Microsoft won’t put any new features into windows anymore, ever, and all those WinDiv devs will be assigned into playing Solitaire ’till their retirement.

    Microsoft has joined the orangutans of Google who purposely confuse updates with upgrades (“want a fix to stagefright? your OEM has to upgrade your device to 4.4 or Lollipop, otherwise no security update for you”), and have also joined the brain-dead “maintainers” of some linux distros who think we should not have proper releases but a constant swapping of the parts of the OS, a process called “rolling release”, essentially multiplying the inevitable compatibility breakages.

    This is why I think every technical Windows user should plan an exit strategy when the Windows 7 and Windows 8 extended supportis about to come to an end. The entire Windows ecosystem was based around the idea that the OS is installed and then only security patches are installed. Upgrades to new major versions are to be made at the user’s risk.

    And now you have Microsoft, just to chase the mobile market, promising an ever-changing Windows, apparently under the assumption that all users need is an Intel GPU+CPU combo (plus HDA and Intel WiFI) and some basic apps, so all they need to do is make sure breakages are addressed for those things.

    Just look how they light-heartedly urge even Windows 7 users to upgrade, ignoring the fact that some not-so-old Intel and AMD GPUs don’t work in Windows 10 but did in 7. Or how Windows 10 nixed the SecuROM driver. Or how many peripherals don’t have Windows 10 drivers and never will (my MSI Digivox A/D II works in Windows 7, will it on Windows 10?)

    In plain English, Microsoft has joined the Desktop Linux crowd into constantly upgrading users via a “rolling” scheme, without guaranteeing app or driver compatibility. Which is the main reason we paid for Microsoft Windows.

    Crap.

  23. dougman wrote, “the Linux Kernel gets updated on a regular basis and Linus isn’t stopping”.

    Tell me about it… I just installed a new kernel on October 22 and there is a new one in the pipes for tomorrow… That’s a Long Term Support kernel of the stable kind. Oh well, another 10 minutes of my life not wasted…

  24. dougman says:

    Well, the Linux Kernel gets updated on a regular basis and Linus isn’t stopping.
    http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxVersions

    How far will can M$ drag Win-dohs and its NT kernel on for? Another 20-years perhaps?? That’s rather dubious to say the least and I suspect that eventually they will pick up the Linux kernel and run with it.

    Regarding “discernible improvements on management”, well Linux Mint gets by just fine with donations. http://linuxmint.com/donors.php

    Also, “circa XP UX”?? You do realize that the XP UX was just a shell right? In reality M$ doesn’t rebuild Win-dohs, they just create pretty shells to overlay the window that originates from DOS.

  25. DrLoser says:

    And whilst on the subject of Fifi’s absurdities:

    Perl stuff is idiot arguement from DrLoser. Automagic conversions is part of ducktyping like it or not.

    Not really. Perl “automagics” an entry, say, into an array or an associative array, and then plunks a null value into place. This has nothing at all to do with duck-typing. In fact, it’s a common irritant when programming in Perl.

    Which leads me, Fifi, to suspect that you have never programmed in Perl. Otherwise, Fifi, you might have spotted the distinction between automagicked variables and duck-typing.

    A language that does not support duck typing natively like C will throw a type miss match if the complier is good.

    How many times do I have to repeat this, little childish one?

    Duck-typing occurs at run-time. Not at compile-time.

    You have practically disqualified yourself from further comment on the subject simply by your inability to recognize that important difference.

    That 17 value trigger could have been replaced with a scalar holding 17 and perl in strict would reject it just the same. Because the issue is perl at that point has not used ducktype automatic to convert the type.

    I repeat. No, Fifi. The integer (17 in this case) is not duck-typed. At no point at runtime is the integer (17 in this case) not typed as an integer. Which means that the integer (17 in this case) is not being duck-typed. And the “strict” declaration has nothing to do with “duck-typing” in this case.

    Sorry DrLoser crossing language methods and defines is a very quick way not to be able to understand anything. I would recommend you stay well away from talking about programing languages.

    Since those two particular statements make no sense whatsoever, whether taken individually or collectively, Fifi … I believe I shall continue to talk about programming languages.

    What with not being a half-educated baboon with some sort of interior microwave receptor and all.

  26. DrLoser says:

    Nowhere recent to put this, but I’m not going to let Fifi get away with untruths.

    K&R void not worthless has 1 useful value.
    void x;
    Has an address. K&R compliers don’t allow you to create stuff that does not have a use. Lets say void x happened to be memory aligned with text output. So when you turn it into a pointer and write data there it appears on screen.

    The fun part from those of us who have really used K&R C is the following.
    void f(void x) {}
    void main(){
    void y;
    f(y);
    }
    That is pure valid K&R code. Anything with an address value can be passed as a function arguement.

    No, Fifi, that is not “pure valid K&R code.”

    Show me a single standards-compliant C compiler with the K&R switch turned on, and I will admit that you are right and I am wrong.

    Regrettably, as always, you are wrong.

  27. DrLoser says:

    Yes, Windows 10 will be the LAST Windows.

    Good to see that you have bought into the Corporate Mantra, Dog-Brain. In fact, that’s pretty much the point of the whole thing.

    From a historical perspective, there’s only so far you can go with any given technology until you basically hit the buffers. Windows 7 was pretty much there. Windows 10 needs tweaks, but it’s difficult to see how this particular cash cow can be turned over every three or so years.

    It’s also difficult to see how a Linux Desktop, based on circa XP UX without any discernible improvements on management, can even survive. But, hey, let’s pretend that users are sheeple. Like that will work.

    And, to repeat: should you choose to leave “OTHER” monopolies to one side … do you have a coherent reason to do so?

    You could plausible argue that Google has a monopoly on the OS used by mobile phones. You could plausibly argue that Google has a monopoly on Search. You could plausibly argue that Amazon, for example, has a monopoly on buying books and DVDs and so on online. You could even plausibly argue that Apple has a monopoly on the Hipster market — Apple seems to be doing quite well by screwing their customers right now.

    Any particular reason, other than a sad historical failure to come to terms with Windows 95, that you consider Microsoft to be a more pernicious monopoly than the others?

  28. dougman says:

    Yes, Windows 10 will be the LAST Windows. Microsoft will not be building anymore versions after this, so buyer beware!

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/05/08/microsoft-windows-10-last-windows/

    So in 5 to 10 and 20-years from now, people will still be using Windows 10.

    Imagine that! Imagine using Windows 3.1 or Windows 95 for 20-years! Twenty years after the release of Windows 95 is 2015.

    Great Scott!….LOL.

  29. YY says:

    It is clear that 2015 will be remembered as the relatively last mellow year for M$. Now that (large) governments are steering away from this illegal spyware malware honeypot, 2016 will show a brutal beginning of the end for many extortion contracts for this criminal organisation M$.
    It’ll be watching the execution of a mass murderer. Not easy, but necessary.

  30. DrLoser says:

    When you say “THE” monopoly, Robert, what other “A” monopolies or “MIGHT BE ARGUED AS” monopolies are you leaving to one side?

    And, should you choose to leave “OTHER” monopolies to one side … do you have a coherent reason to do so?

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