Audit, Bargain, Close

“Powa Technologies Ltd., a mobile payments company located in the U.K., which about a year ago began moving from Oracle and IBM products to open source software. The limited migrations attempted so far have proved to be so successful that the company is now in the process of moving almost all of it’s operations to free software.”
 
“Oracle is using audits to aggressively sell cloud services to its existing base — even to customers who have no interest in moving to the cloud. One of the methods used is to lower massive penalties for being out of compliance in exchange for signing up for cloud services. Another method takes advantage of vendor lock-in by using the “breach notice,” which is what Business Insider meant by “nuclear option,” as it gives the customer the chance to walk away from a costly contract scot-free.”
 
See Godfather Ellison’s Protection Racket
No matter how helpful salesmen of non-Free products may be they have quotas to meet and turn up the pressures on customers at crunch-time. I’ve seen it myself with a school division upgrading an application and being required to pay for multiple copies of licences if they wanted to keep their data. Well, you can be free of all that simply by using FLOSS, Free/Libre Open Source Software. It’s not “out to get you”. You download it, run it and you can use as many copies as you want. You can even modify and distribute the software if you want. That’s all allowed by the FLOSS licences which accompany the download. No salesmen. No nasty salesmen. Not even an “End User Licensing Agreement”.

If you use Oracle’s database, try Postgresql. If it’s M$’s OS, and office suite, try Debian GNU/Linux and LibreOffice. Be free to use your hardware as you see fit rather than as some corporation allows.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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50 Responses to Audit, Bargain, Close

  1. oiaohm says:

    Its funny how little olderman knows on this topic.
    pointed to this http://blogs.vmware.com/workstation/2015/07/vmware-workstation-technology-preview-2015.html
    On TMR gave this link saying VMWare will at 3.3 soon.

    Little facts. 1 to run x86 Android current properly requires Opengl 4.5 or Opengl ES 3.1. Yes this preview is unable to run current Android on x86.

    2 Soon programs on Linux will be depending on Opengl 4.1 and 4.2 for 2d rendering. Just look at http://mesamatrix.net/ this shows you were you baseline has to be. If your provided driver is weaker than the default Mesa provide you are in trouble on the Linux Desktop.

    Qemu and kvm under Linux are going for passthrew.

    You also have remember more FOSS programs are using Opencl like calc in Libreoffice to accelerate things. So the requirement that a Virtual Machine has to provide is massively increasing.

    Also under Windows more programs are using DirectCompute requiring Direct X 11. Notice VMWare newest release only supports Direct X 10.

    So VMWare workstation under Linux is screwed running Windows GUI applications properly and VMWare workstation under Windows is screwed running GUI Linux applications properly because its opengl and direct x support suxs. Yes Linux users complain about using current open source opengl 3.3 drivers on real hardware because it graphically suxs compare to using Nvidia closed source that is at least Opengl 4.4.

    Reality here is anyone who has using VMWare workstation for running Windows or Linux GUI applications should know its a problem.

    Yes the idea that hey a closed source product will be more up to date than open source ones is put to shame by VMWare workstation.

    KVM under Linux using pass-threw with Intel video drivers can provide Direct X 11 and 12 to windows. So properly render applications. Now how do I get opengl 4.4 or 4.5 under Windows to Linux. Thinking next lot of updates I will have Direct 12 to windows and opengl 4.2 to Linux by running Windows inside Linux with an intel video card.

  2. oiaohm says:

    olderman post here if you are going to question something. Don’t go to TMR to hide.
    http://blog.qt.io/blog/2009/03/13/using-hardware-acceleration-for-graphics/
    Did you not notice my link. 10 years ago don’t count. Since 2009 QT has been increasing is opengl requirement.

    –This may be problematic for someone who requires newer releases of OpenGL, but I would imagine it shoudl work for most of what passes as OpenGL desktop apps.–

    Wild guessing is not a good idea. Yes QT will work with under supplied Opengl but what have you lost. QT smooth scrolling depend on a function from Opengl 3.3 or Opengl ES 3.0.

    –As far as OpenGl in a virtual machine is concerned VMWare workstation 11 has OpenGL 2.1 support as standard. —
    This is simply not good enough any more.

    Anything with a scroll bar behaves better when you have QT with the correct versions of Opengl what are 3.3+ or Opengl ES 3.0+. This also effects displaying of menu…. Yes if you want QT applications to look and behave how they acted 10 years ago only give it Opengl 2.1.

    The truth of the matter you did not know this topic. Neither did DrLoser. Particular versions of Opengl added particular key features.

    The function you are look for todo 2d graphics well under opengl is
    https://www.opengl.org/registry/specs/ARB/sampler_objects.txt
    To be correct a form of it first appears in the time frame Opengl ES 2.1 but was not properly defined. Most modern Opengl ES 2.1 have implemented this as extension. To be correct to be sure by standard to have it you need Opengl ES 3.0.

    The vmware arguement that desktop applications only need opengl 2.1 is very YouDontNeedThat TM. Once get a list of Opengl functions really need 2d applications properly Opengl 2.1 does not cut it. Opengl 3.3 just cuts it. There are a few functions in Opengl 4.x that also help with 2d rendering.

    olderman I left a error there to be picked on. Yes that my Opengl ES requirement version was wrong under by release. Of course you did not have the knowledge to pick that up. Yes people complain about some Android shoddy graphics compared to the others. Any Android phone with less than Opengl ES 3.0 or if they are Opengl ES 2.1 they are missing the extension renders badly as well. Same function is required in Opengl on Android as their is for Linux Desktop to render properly.

    As Opengl is development functions are created to address problems. Opengl 2.1 was release in 2006 and opengl 3.3 release date is 2010.

    So only having Opengl 2.1 means only able to render applications to acceptable standards of 2006 as that is when it was released. Basically XP quality no better. It was Window vista in 2007 that introduces proper smooth scrolling to Windows and its 2010 before we start seeing it on Linux. You need the opengl todo it.

    Reality here olderman is happy with Linux looking about 10 years old.

  3. oiaohm says:

    –Though why you’d want to experience the shoddiness of K3B rather than use a native OSX or Windows equivalent is a little beyond me.–

    This by DrLoser is another wording YouDontNeedThat TM that gets thrown at Linux users all the time. Even if we are using something that is super complex that there is nothing like it on Windows or OS X we get the same bull crap.

  4. oiaohm says:

    DrLoser K3B was just 1 program. There are other programs that I could have suggested that use Opengl heavily. Wait K3B built against modern QT in fact does using OpenGL heavily.

    http://blog.qt.io/blog/2009/03/13/using-hardware-acceleration-for-graphics/

    VMware. Virtual machines opengl performance is crap DrLoser. I picked a program that sounds so simple but it not. Almost all QT applications are anti virtual machine. QT wants Opengl 3.3 or Opengl ES 2.1 or better or better to perform properly. VMWare Virtual machine still is Opengl 2.1 and that missing functions that are in Opengl ES 2.1.

    –Though why you’d want to experience the shoddiness of K3B rather than use a native OSX or Windows equivalent is a little beyond me.–
    If the only time you have used K3B in a virtual machine with under provided Opengl I can understand the shoddiness.

    K3B is quite a simple Linux Desktop application that does not work in a Virtual Machine properly. What do you think it is like when I bring in something truly complex.

    Also note we Linux people suggest that a person should run a Virtual Machine copy of Windows this is also not acceptable.

    DrLoser when some who does no the platform starts suggesting solutions like run in Virtual Machine they are not aware that the program will not. Its like some desktop Windows Applications that use Direct X heavily they don’t work in virtual machines either. Yes everything QT does not perform properly inside a VMWare Virtual machine this include even something as simple as Kwrite KDE equal to notepad.

    Yes you hear a lot say I tried Linux under a Virtual Machine and it was crap so I will not try it native. Totally not understand that Linux under a Virtual machine is major-ally crippled graphically.

  5. DrLoser says:

    Lets say I want K3B on Windows or OS X. Please note K3B is a Linux or BSD program only and yes it open source.

    Let’s say you do. Please note K3B can be run in a virtual machine on Windows. Let me ‘splain virtual machines to you …. you may have heard of VMware. Virtual machines allow you to co-opt things like your DVD drive, and thereby run your inferior software of choice in order to rip images, etc.

    Though why you’d want to experience the shoddiness of K3B rather than use a native OSX or Windows equivalent is a little beyond me.

  6. kurkosdr says:

    Now the only thing that that Dimitrios Kostaras can seem to do is tear apart a M$ Surface Pro 3
    Who buys a Surface 3 Pro just to tear it apart?

    And who is Mr Kostaras?

    Please. Make. Sense.

  7. oiaohm says:

    DrIdiot/DrLoser in fact by his post was doing deformation against POWA because he did not have his facts in order. Really lucky is address is not known and POWA is not a company that sues.

    Yes the idea of attacking the company for being some minor company because they are using Open Source is a legally stupid thing to be doing.

  8. oiaohm says:

    –YouDontNeedThat–
    kurkosdr of course being a TMR moron did not get that this TM was a complete miss represented bullshit. Lets say I want K3B on Windows or OS X. Please note K3B is a Linux or BSD program only and yes it open source.
    I could give OS X examples as well.

    So any long term user of a particular OS will be Application that are only for that OS.
    –While recommending alternatives that aren’t and answering with YouDontNeedThat.–
    Sorry to say attempt to migrate a Long term OS X or Linux user to Windows end up with them suffering from exactly the same problem. Where the alternatives are not really alternatives that do exactly the same thing.

    So the YouDontNeedThat TM is really nothing more than a required answer in the process of migrating between OS. Really you should be asking this of yourself when you migrate. There is a great You Don’t Need That with Window 10. Windows 10 has removed usb floppy drive support because you don’t need that. Just to be fun some industrial milling machines the only way to load in configurations is a floppy drive. You Don’t Need That answer happens even if you stay on Windows and just migrate between versions of Windows. Yet the TMR guys go around making this out as something special to the Open Source OS’s when it something that happens no matter the OS.

    –As opposed to the licenses for same publisher non-Free software but Desktop Linux editions, who don’t?–
    Yes it is common for the Linux edition to be differently licensed to the Windows edition. All because the Linux admin might choose stuff it and terminal services provide it. No extra cost for using terminal services like usage under Linux. Since using terminal services under Windows cost extra closed source vendors get away with horible licensing.

    –Gotta give you one thing though, most “desktop linux admins” should not be allowed near any organization that uses proprietary software to make a living, unless credentials of non-freetardness are presented.–

    Really a closed source only Window Admin is worse from a budget point of view. So really all admins should be required to prove they have Open Source and Closed source knowledge. Why because sometimes a problem will require one or the other. Or one will be massively cheaper.

    kurkosdr so far for all the points you brought in you are batting absolutely Zero. What you TMR guys did not get I was just messing with you for fun. Now that I have taken the kid gloves off most of the points you thought you won against me are in fact completely wrong and I let you believe them.

    So kurkosdr so please stop wasting our time bringing up points that fail the simple “If this happens in reverse will be the result be the same? if yes the then its not a difference” test. Yes the YouDontNeedThat tm on fails that test.

    Really TMR guys need to start deleting TMs. Wait TMrepository does not include delete so it documents how stupid you are.

  9. kurkosdr wrote, “This is one of the many reasons Desktop Linux will be the eternal 1-2% OS. It’s not just tidbits like Xorg and PulseAudio, it’s the whole “community” that goes with Desktop Linux too.”

    Silly! Check out Uruguay. With ~14% usage yesterday, it’s giving “8.1” a run for the money. So, as in Euclidean geometry, we can assume kurkosdr is correct. Then we rapidly come to a logical contradiction, facts ≠ reality. Therefor, kurkosdr is wrong, again. QED

    Then, there’s Europe where, on the whole, GNU/Linux is riding above 2% with some ~4-5%. Then, there’s India, where GNU/Linux is above 2% on weekdays, and USA where GNU/Linux was over 3% until school got out…

  10. dougman says:

    Ahh yes, the notorious ‘kurkosdr’ so in the know of computers, yet has no idea as post an introduction to linsux,org!

    http://linsux.org/index.php?/topic/2409-hi-kurkosdr-here/

    Now the only thing that that Dimitrios Kostaras can seem to do is tear apart a M$ Surface Pro 3, gleefully I might add, and all the while dissing Linux users with “Desktop Linux” minutiae when in fact Linux has superseded the Desktop and has become ubiquitous.

  11. kurkosdr says:

    Gotta give you one thing though, most “desktop linux admins” should not be allowed near any organization that uses proprietary software to make a living, unless credentials of non-freetardness are presented.

    So yeah, most “Desktop Linux admin kiddies” will never have the pleasure of running around with flashdrives. But they won’t have a pleasure of working in a place that matters either, instead of “crappy random web hosting company X”

  12. kurkosdr says:

    This. This is one of the many reasons Desktop Linux will be the eternal 1-2% OS. It’s not just tidbits like Xorg and PulseAudio, it’s the whole “community” that goes with Desktop Linux too. Who consideres proprietary software a plague that any self-respecting Desktop Linux user should shun. While recommending alternatives that aren’t and answering with YouDontNeedThat.

  13. kurkosdr says:

    Yes, if that’s what the licences for the non-Free software requires.

    As opposed to the licenses for same publisher non-Free software but Desktop Linux editions, who don’t?

    Desktop Linux admins are in the same whole.

  14. kurkosdr wrote, “did you think Windows admins go around the building with flashdrives/CD-RWs in hand installing and updating stuff”.

    Yes, if that’s what the licences for the non-Free software requires. I’ve seen a lot of licences that denied use of servers for any purpose connected with the software. Some ISVs insist on that so their customers have to be up to date on installations or pay extra for the convenience of using a server.

  15. oiaohm says:

    kurkosdr Also you missed when you build your own repository you end up deploying a stack of stuff with updating disabled other than by your solution.

    How will you audit your deployments. Remember I use deb repository I have built up for debian systems I can add to debsecan to check for any package that I have updated due to security reasons.

    The repo deploy and audit tools are not simple to get right.

  16. oiaohm says:

    –Sorry, but if you are an advanced user willing to build your own repo thing, you can do it with Group Policy in windows. —
    No this is build your own a duplication of the already existing structure. So now depending that group policy deploys correctly.

    –did you think Windows admins go around the building with flashdrives/CD-RWs in hand installing and updating stuff?–
    At times this is exactly what Windows admins have todo. Due to breakages.

  17. oiaohm says:

    –And Windows is long-term-supported for more than a decade (security updates and apps), saving you from potentially-breaking upgrades.–
    Choose CentOS get this under Linux as well.

    –The gist of the discussion is that the only “proof” you presented for Windows being more vulnerable to malware is some talk about apps bringing their own updaters, which is not a problem if they are set to auto by default,–
    And no one turns 1 off. This is the other problem with too many. Too many on and off switches. Human error does happen.

    –Desktop Linux does too if you exercise the freedom to step outside the repos anyway–
    Not exactly. Lets take chrome from google. That does not come from Debian repo. Instead you add a google repo to your system that Google maintains for updates.

    So stepping out side Distrobution repos is not end of story.

    http://windowsitpro.com/article/patch-management/Secure-non-Microsoft-applications-by-publishing-3rd-party-updates-to-WSUS-129241

    Notice the recommendation here to use WSUS to deploy items like Flash disable flash means to check for updates.

    Ok cool right.

    https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/e3fbb0fc-d9a5-44e3-bda5-43f2b3ff40d4/wsus-updates-failing-to-install?forum=winserverwsus

    Other than the fact that WSUS turns out to be a complex protocol so it can implode on itself.

    kurkosdr did you not notice that Linux repo solutions using http and ftp as transfer protocols. This is kinda critical over complex update transfer protocol is a nightmare.

    –Anyway, enough with the AV/rootkit talk (attempting to divert the discussion, huh?–

    Not at all you always get AV and Rootkit stuff screwed up.

  18. kurkosdr says:

    Sorry if you step out side the Distrobution provided repo you can provide your own using the Distribution tools.

    Sorry, but if you are an advanced user willing to build your own repo thing, you can do it with Group Policy in windows. What? (did you think Windows admins go around the building with flashdrives/CD-RWs in hand installing and updating stuff? Did you really not know about Group Policy? Oh dear, and you are in a conversation imvolving Windows… wait.. Oh dear me!)

    But for the novice users who can’t do that, Windows apps and Desktop Linux apps outside the repositories just come with their own updaters.

  19. kurkosdr says:

    Anyway, enough with the AV/rootkit talk (attempting to divert the discussion, huh?

    The gist of the discussion is that the only “proof” you presented for Windows being more vulnerable to malware is some talk about apps bringing their own updaters, which is not a problem if they are set to auto by default, and Desktop Linux does too if you exercise the freedom to step outside the repos anyway (and I ‘will need to see some statistics on a representative sample before I buy into your “90%” number).

    What you don’t want to admit the fact Windows systems have a great deal of problem deploying software without glitches. Even more than Linux.

    And what do you have to support this claim? Particularly the “even more than Linux” bit?

    And Windows is long-term-supported for more than a decade (security updates and apps), saving you from potentially-breaking upgrades.

  20. oiaohm says:

    kurkosdr basically under Linux you can successfully reduce to 1 update system for everything. Windows you don’t have this as a functional option.

  21. oiaohm says:

    –Linux can have multiple update systems too. (if you step out of the repo and brings it’s own updater)–

    Sorry if you step out side the Distrobution provided repo you can provide your own using the Distribution tools. So each client machine to deploy all software only requires 1 repo system.

    Lets take oinstall for example. Users can use that directly or you can use to to make package for everyone install of the same 0install applications but instead of being shipped to users by oinstall be shipped by the distribution normal update system.

  22. oiaohm says:

    –Guess what happens auto updating gets disabled.–

    ***Your system is pwned, regardless of OS.***
    Exactly so how would you know that firefox,chrome,adobe….autoupdate system on Windows has failed. Because once the update system has failed you will be pwned.

    –I said, Windows can have multiple update systems too.–
    Multiple update systems result in multi systems to maintain so leading to the failure I just pointed to.

    –BTW, can Desktop Linux distros auto-apply critical patches/versions with critical patches but ask for non-critical? —
    Yes you can. There is a reason why there is a security repository on debian. You can say all patches from the security repository what are the critical ones apply without user intervention.

    http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/
    And you also have debscan that will tell you if any package in the main repository that has a know security flaw is installed so you can make your own choice.

    –You shouldn’t demand from users to stay just with whatever is offered by the repository–
    Remember you are authorized with Linux to create your own repository. When managing a network of 100+ machines using a repository is the best way forwards.

  23. kurkosdr says:

    Windows can have multiple update systems too. = Linux can have multiple update systems too. (if you step out of the repo and brings it’s own updater)

  24. oiaohm says:

    kurkosdr you don’t see any claims that Linux does not need anti-rootkit ever. You will not find a single post saying that. Sorry you only hear Linux users saying Linux does not need anti-virus. Mostly referring to not needing anti-virus signatures. There are other ways of finding viruses without having signatures.

    –ClamAV practically doesn’t hunt neither rootkits nor malware. —
    Wrong as normal.
    http://sanesecurity.com/usage/signatures/
    Clamav is a configurable scanner. Configured for malware and anti-virus most common. Hunting rootkits is special as you need to dig into OS memory and at times deeper hunting hypervisors. Clamav hunts particular classes of rootkits but is unable to hunt them all.

    ClamAV is commonalty used on mail-servers due to the cost. Also worse is lot of places using ClamAV on mailservers don’t pay for commercial ClamAV databases that are many times more upto date.

    Please note 1 of the things ClamAV does is spam culling.

  25. kurkosdr says:

    Guess what happens auto updating gets disabled.

    Your system is pwned, regardless of OS.

    and don’t want too many update systems. Why? Finish your thought process (whatever of it you posses). If all of them are set to auto by default, why not? And Desktop Linux has multiple update systems too if you step out of the repository walled garden (we are sold freedom with Desktop Linux, right? You shouldn’t demand from users to stay just with whatever is offered by the repository).

    BTW, can Desktop Linux distros auto-apply critical patches/versions with critical patches but ask for non-critical?

    Also I can bring in cases of where auto updates break the auto patching system
    In Desktop Linux or Windows? I am sure you can find cases for both. And as I said, Windows can have multiple update systems too.

  26. oiaohm says:

    –All hail the repository walled garden. Unless the latest patched version doesn’t appear in the repo for your old LTS (or even the latest LTS, I ‘ve shown you examples of this), in which case not so all hail.–

    What is Linux world version of WSUS. It called running your own Repository.

    So maintained systems you examples don’t apply you idiot kurkosdr because you are meant to be receiving you security reports and responding to them.

    –Almost a informed-sounding remark (to the untrained eye), till you realise most “dangerous” software (stuff that touches the wild side of the internet) autopatches itself too (browsers and plugins).–
    You mentioned rootkiting those autopatching. Guess what happens auto updating gets disabled. This is why you need to be able to follow up with inspections and don’t want too many update systems. Also I can bring in cases of where auto updates break the auto patching system. So bring this house of cards that Windows is down.

  27. kurkosdr says:

    kurkosdr anti-virus software technically does not hunt rootkits.

    ClamAV practically doesn’t hunt neither rootkits nor malware. The only thing it hunts (and haunts) is university students, who have (had) to rely on the damn thing to check mails sent to their university email address (combined with an equally incapable spam filter), because the IT support department is manned by neckbeards and freetards.

    Anyway, the quoted text is irrelevant. My point is that, the FOSSie talking point that Windows needs an AV and anti-rootkit solution while Desktop Linux doesn’t, which is then used as “proof” Windows is more vulnerable to malware, is bollocks

  28. oiaohm says:

    kurkosdr can you design a Windows system that will dependably deploy all updates and be able to perform a checksum auditing at any time.

    I can achieve that with Linux. Part of security is effectively deployment of all updates.

    –Patching is necessary for Windows and Desktop Linux.–

    So you want us to bet that OS is secure without updating with Linux. What you don’t want to admit the fact Windows systems have a great deal of problem deploying software without glitches. Even more than Linux.

    Unpatched application for years after updated version was provided running on a maintained Windows system is not strange.

  29. kurkosdr says:

    Almost worthless in fact thinking that most attackers enter system by applications Microsoft does not ship..

    Almost a informed-sounding remark (to the untrained eye), till you realise most “dangerous” software (stuff that touches the wild side of the internet) autopatches itself too (browsers and plugins).

    Distribution repositories shipping 90+ percent of what users use on Linux provide some advantages.

    All hail the repository walled garden. Unless the latest patched version doesn’t appear in the repo for your old LTS (or even the latest LTS, I ‘ve shown you examples of this), in which case not so all hail.

  30. kurkosdr says:

    does have = doesn’t have

  31. oiaohm says:

    kurkosdr anti-virus software technically does not hunt rootkits.

    — (linux doesn’t need an antivirus, unless news about a linux rootkit breaks out, in which case it does and it’s the users fault for not having one).–

    http://linux-audit.com/intrusion-detection-linux-rootkits/

    So the statement there is completely wrong kurkosdr.

    Windows users don’t know the difference between the two kinds of software.
    http://www.gmer.net/
    Yes there is such thing as root-kit hunter software for windows that Windows users don’t run normally. Malware bytes includes a rootkit hunter as well. There are many cases of Windows computers with Anti-virus installed being infected with a root kit rendering the anti-virus non functional.

    So a Root-Kit on Windows breaks out windows users screw up handling completely because they think anti-virus handles everything.

    –Before you start typing on your crumb-infested keyboard, let me tell you Windows 10 features mandatory patching for home users.–
    Almost worthless in fact thinking that most attackers enter system by applications Microsoft does not ship. Distribution repositories shipping 90+ percent of what users use on Linux provide some advantages.

  32. kurkosdr says:

    And before you say that “Desktop Linux does have dangerous exploits and (blah blah blah)”, are you willing to sign a contract that Desktop Linux won’t get exploited, if let unpatched for years, or even months?

    Patching is necessary for Windows and Desktop Linux.

  33. kurkosdr says:

    to XP = from XP

  34. kurkosdr says:

    And yes, you should pay to upgrade to XP. The extended support has ended anyway, 15 years later after releasw. Most of us can afford to buy a new Windows in the meantime. Unless you eat pine cones for substinence, in which case you probably can’t.

  35. kurkosdr says:

    but when Windows breaks (malware) and forcibly requires you to upgrade, you will need to pay for a “support package” from Microsoft

    Oh dougman, famed Windows Expert, can you explain to us ignoramus plebs how exactly is Windows more vulnerable to malware than your average Deskop Linux distro?

    Before you start typing on your crumb-infested keyboard, let me tell you Windows 10 features mandatory patching for home users. Windows Vista to 8.1 have automatic patching on by default (and you should leave it there if you are novice user)

    All versions, Vista and above, warn you when you run unsigned exes, and don’t .auto-execute Autorun Exes.

    -The OS vendor provided AV solution for Windows is much better than ClamAV (linux doesn’t need an antivirus, unless news about a linux rootkit breaks out, in which case it does and it’s the users fault for not having one).

    ….b… b… but look at what XP does. If you still use XP, upgrade the OS or donate the the thing to a museum. Whining about XP security today like whining about the 8.3 filenames of DOS and Win3.1 in 2004.

  36. oiaohm says:

    http://www.cashregisterwarehouse.com.au/powapos-t25-3pp-universal-mount.html

    DrIDIOT I have bet you have never used a POWA POS bit of hardware. Its a very good bit of generic framing. All other POS tablet mounts in mass production are for particular brands and models of tablets.

    Yes the printer inside is standard, the scanner device is standard, cash draw connection standard.

    This is why I said you need to check out the POWA POS. Its special in the market. POWA POS are liked because you can have spare tablet and if 1 POS in usage has a software glitch you can swap that tablet. Better that tablet can be a cheep china made tablet. O yes at the moment POWA POS base costs a lot due to demand.

    Please note I am Australia other-side of world and POWA is selling POS hardware here using local supply chains.

    http://www.reportlinker.com/ci02071/Point-Of-Sale-Systems.html

    For those that don’t know $31.5 billion in 2014 is hardware in the POS market $3.5 billion is software in 2014. These figures are growing. The biggest growing are POS Hardware solutions that are able to operate wireless POWA POS happens to be one of those.

    Really what confirm that DrLoser was a Idiot over this is the fact he went on about POWA TAG. Money in the POS market is the hardware not the software. Software is the cherry on top in the POS market.

  37. oiaohm says:

    DrIdiot they are not the first small company to win one of those contracts. DrIdiot history tells you that you should not be saying 2 years in that case. But should be saying 11 years.

    Retail POS history tells you that in 11 years time if they are not able to come up with another good design their contract ends. Their income dies and they become an X company at that point.

    Winning the contracts give them 10 years to make themselves a stable company.

    If they had not acquired the contracts saying they could be dead in 2 years would be correct.

    I don’t need to wait 2 years to know that in 2 years they are still going to be there based on history. If you asks if they will exist in 11 years time that is questionable. They have won what they need to live the next 10 years just doing hardware sales. Their hardware is not Dependant on their software working. POWA POS operation with 20 different POS software solutions and most of those companies have been in the POS game for at least 15 years.

    Now if you question is will POWA still be in the software game in 2 years time I cannot be sure.

  38. DrLoser says:

    DrIDIOT saying tank in 2 years is not going to happen thinking they have just signed 10 year contracts with one of the largest POS suppliers to Retail in the world.

    Come back to us in two years and admit I was right, Fifi.

  39. oe says:

    “Ever been audited for proprietary software?”

    Been in an organization and it’s a mess. We had two VLANS running, one with Windows and “standard closed source fare”, the other predominately FOSS based OS and SW stacks (CentOS, Debian, NetBSD, OpenBSD) with a Mac or two here or there. Funny how quickly the BSA audit concluded on the 2’nd VLAN when sw stack after sw stack was GPL vX, LGPL vXApache, MIT, BSD, etc, whereas on the Windows based one it took a better part of week. The 2’ndary burden costs of conventional EULA licensing tracking and compliance is truly ridiculous. Better to end-run around it and use (generally) superior software too boot as well. Need I relate the up-time availability of the two networks or the HD personnel-to-box ratio? It was a no-contest there as well.

  40. dougman says:

    If Instagram can utilize Linux and be profitable with it, so can Powa. What IS interesting is that Powa is not yet profitable, and the CEO is hoping for a IPO next year. Wouldn’t it be lovely that Powa integrates Bitcoin into its process. See the add, click the QR code and pay with Bitcoin..easy peasy.

    What amazes me though is that this company originated from the UK, nothing of worth comes from the UK these days.

  41. oiaohm says:

    DrLoser Powa Technologies is three products that work with each other.

    Powa Tag, Powa POS and PowaWeb.

    You really need to go into Powa POS. They are in the hardware game.
    http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150603006468/en/Powa-Technologies-S-Cubism-Technologies-Billing-System-Corporation
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/10/powa-technologies-idUSnBw105212a+100+BSW20150610

    Powa POS is a hardware design that is very popular even if you are not using Powa Software.

    The joint contracts and income Powa Technologies has just from the Powa POS hardware and the parties contracted to use it 2.6 billion is very conservative .

    Sorry DrIDIOT who cannot do research or type someones name correctly.

    Just because a product is listed first on a company website does not mean it their flag ship product. Yes DrIDIOT you missed their flag ship product completely. Powa TAG is not a Flag Ship. Powa POS or Powa WEB is the Flag ship. By contracts Powa POS is most likely the Flag Ship.

    The e-commence side explains the Oracle usage.

    Bishopsgate, London has quite a few head offices of successful companies. It england silicon valley with all the same problems. Being based in Bishopsgate is neither here nor there. Now if Powa had not secured Contracts that are on the public record I would serous-ally question if they were suitable to invest in.

    DrIDIOT saying tank in 2 years is not going to happen thinking they have just signed 10 year contracts with one of the largest POS suppliers to Retail in the world.

  42. DrLoser says:

    Any idea what Powa Technologies actually does for a living?

    Not much, apparently. For a company whose “entrepreneur” founder, Dan Wagner, claims has “an enterprise value of $2.6 billion,” which is meaningless in any case and is not especially trustworthy considering that the thing is based in Bishopsgate, London …
    … it seems a little odd that they are pissing around with server licenses and audits and the like.
    Let’s just assume that they can run this “enterprise” on a back-office IT budget of, say, $100 million. That doesn’t sound unreasonable. It’s pretty much in line with the amount they got out of Series A, back in 2013. Sans accounts, I can easily see this amount covering top-end Solaris servers and Oracle databases.
    Equally, they could choose to lash up something with Debian and Taiwanese white boxen and MySQL. Why not?
    Series A investors are always entranced by gits who claim their company is worth $2.6 billion, but only if the founder cheese-pares on the original $76 million.

    Are we going to be really, really, optimistic, and buy shares in this devastatingly handsome company, little ones?
    As your friendly Troll Uncle, I advise you not to. It will tank in two years, just like all the other moron schemes your pathetic snake-oil salesmen “friends” come up with.

    Oh, and to save you the carpal tunnel syndrome, the company’s “flagship product” (PowaTag) is “a mobile payment enabling technology.” Amazon and PayPal are presumably quaking in their boots.
    Over to Fifi for his usual specious “technological justification.”

  43. dougman says:

    I would feel more secure running an older version of Ubuntu then I would Windows XP anyday. 😛

    Microsoft desktops and laptops are paid for once by users and they don’t need to pay MS ever again for years, till the thing stops receiving patches. This is the OLD way, read below for the NEW way.

    Ironically again, the bad guy in desktops and laptops is Microsoft. They give you the stuff for free “Windows 10”, but when Windows breaks (malware) and forcibly requires you to upgrade, you will need to pay for a “support package” from Microsoft. As deferred payment for the operating system license, otherwise know as “supported lifetime” is only 2-3 years and if you refuse, Windows will stop receiving new updates before the laptop becomes useless, so you have to purchase a software license due to Microsoft deferring the cost from one of the Long Term Servicing branches

    Muahaha……eh.

  44. oiaohm says:

    kurkosdr
    http://www.webupd8.org/2015/04/ubuntu-desktop-to-eventually-switch-to.html

    Really you need to stop all this complaining about Ubuntu LTS. Ubuntu has heard users and is implementing snappy on desktop. What is fairly much chroot solution allowing multi versions of Ubuntu on the same system. So killing your Ubuntu treadmill arguement dead in future. The Ubuntu treadmill issue is a temporary issue that items like 0install can work around for now.

    If you had paid for Ubuntu support they would have run you threw how to run chroot or oinstall on the old distrobution to access newer applications.

    http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Multi-Distro-Dev/use.html

    This is a 2003 document kurkosdr. Ubuntu provides pbuilder and sbuild to setup chroots of newer distributions on old.

    So all snappy does is make what was possible from the command line since 2003 possible from graphical. How todo a chroot to run newer on old has been documented for over 10 years.

    People like you kurkosdr spreading the message that Ubuntu is a treadmill causes uses to treat it that way. Old Linux kernel new Applications no problems. Old X11 server new applications again no problems. Why Linux libraries include compatibility. Funny enough idiots have the problem reversed. Due to X11 dropping features old application on newer X11 server may fail. So those who treadmil Ubuntu are more likely to have unfix-able problems than those who put a chroot of newer distribution on an old distribution.

    –Now, replying to article, OF COURSE you must have an audit team to ensure compliance to the license, and constantly evaluate the value/cost ratio you ‘re getting.–
    Audit team to ensure compliance that is kinda wrong when you are using RHEL and other Redhat Products. The difference is that all Redhat License are Active class. You don’t need Audit team on per user licensed server products to go around counting every possible connected item. Why redhat per user license server product is active user. So Redhat per user license products you go into a config file and set the max number of users to what your license says and you are done. The server will reject users when you have too many and better you can configure the server to email someone if this happens.

    What about RHEL licenses Redhat provides central management software that you can punch the details of your licenses in. Again if you are not in compliance and this software detects it can email someone. If you choose not to and use Redhat update system directly that system can email you if it detects a issue. Redhat does not charge you any extra if they have emailed you and you check and go opps.

    Redhat you don’t need an audit team to ensure compliance to the license as the software confirms compliance. Audit team only need to audit configuration.

    kurkosdr the biggest cause of over paying or under paying for a license is Audit staff not being able to perform maths correctly. Redhat has taken staffs failure to perform maths out the mix.

    Please note that Redhat licensing only works so well because its active device licensing. Microsoft is inactive device licensing as well. So a stack of computer with Redhat stuff installed sitting on a shelf somewhere turned off is not something your audit don’t have to find. But if this is Microsoft product those inactive devices have to be found or your numbers are incorrect.

    If Microsoft licensing was like Redhat licensing a lot less people would be upset with it.

    Even IBM mainframe licensing has IBM tools to auto confirm compliance without having staff perform dangerous maths or physical inspections.

  45. kurkosdr says:

    Now, replying to article, OF COURSE you must have an audit team to ensure compliance to the license, and constantly evaluate the value/cost ratio you ‘re getting.

    This calculation is unique for every business obviously. Heck, some companies still find a sufficient value/cost in paying IBM to maintain mainframes.

  46. kurkosdr says:

    Let’s be honest, if you use Windows in a scenario where RHEL could come cheaper, you are doing it wrong. Just getting out of Microsoft’s “enforcement team” is enough reason.

    Microsoft is big in desktops and laptops because it’s paid for once by users and they don’t need to pay MS ever again for years, till the thing stops receiving patches. By that time the laptop probably has clogged fans and struggles even with web browsing tasks (for example, old PCs struggle with YouTube’s HTML5 in fullscreen player even at 480p) and the machine gets thrown away/becomes a utorrent box.

    Ironically, the bad guy in desktops and laptops is Canonical. They give you the stuff for free, but when Ubuntu breaks itself after politely asking to upgrade, you need to by a “support package” from Canonical. And your old LTS will ptobably stop receiving new apps before the laptop becomes useless, so you have to upgrade to a newer LTS. Muahaha.

  47. dougman says:

    Re: That e-mail system was a lousy POS too… but the bosses loved it because they were familiar with it.

    HAHAH…”we don’t care if it sucks, it’s what we use and familiar with!”

  48. oiaohm wrote, “until you can prove they are wrong they will be demanding you pay full retail.”

    It’s worse than that. They can shut down all or part of your operation until you pay up and they won’t stop until you pay or get a court order in your favour. In one case I dealt with, we had to pay up multiple times to keep “our data” accumulated over a decade. We had to pay for upgrades not taken. We had to pay for a man to go around to each installation and repeatedly install and upgrade all those upgrades while begging on the phone for the “keys” to continue beyond each step. It was a week of labour or so thrown to the wind. That e-mail system was a lousy POS too… but the bosses loved it because they were familiar with it.

  49. oiaohm says:

    dougman even if you are careful you can still find your self liable for a good sum of money due to how complex closed source licensing is. Hey this user was using remote desktop to non Windows device pay up or you deployed your printers by group policy so they needs a cal so pay kind of stuff.

    Lot of complete BS from the inspectors in lots of cases. But until you can prove they are wrong they will be demanding you pay full retail.

  50. dougman says:

    Ever been audited for proprietary software?

    HO-LEE-FUK..

    There is a proper procedure to respond to such inquiries, but if you are not careful one may be liable for a good sum of money.

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