Rats Queuing Up To Leave Sinking Ship

“Microsoft has been talking to notebook brand vendors about the licensing of Windows 10 recently and is planning to charge extra fees for notebook models with high-end hardware such as Core i7 processors or Full HD display. However, the vendors are concerned that the increased fees could impact their profitability from high-end models, according to sources from the upstream supply chain.”
See Microsoft looking to charge extra licensing fees for high-end notebooks
Yes, these are the end days of Wintel. M$ is desperately trying to remain relevant in the client OS domain while shipments shrink. Now they want to charge “extra” for putting the OS on high end OEM machines while giving the OS away for $0 to older machines. It’s just like M$ to think they own OEMs’ products rather than supplying OEMs a good/service. It will be interesting to see the many ways the OEMs jerk M$’s chain to bring them back to reality, say, by installing GNU/Linux instead of That Other OS. Expect GNU/Linux to have a really great year. 😉

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11 Responses to Rats Queuing Up To Leave Sinking Ship

  1. Agent_Smith says:


    I guess you should look for barebooks. Companies that make barebooks, the ones I know, are: Compal, Clevo and MSI. MSI is number one in quality, 2dn one is Compal and Clevo is crap.

    Ok ?


  2. ram says:

    The whole stand-alone laptop concept may by passing away. The mass market is in Internet connected machines and they can use a browser as a thin client to a real application running on a powerful server somewhere. Certainly IBM has placed its bets that way. Intel’s presentations seem to reinforce this.

  3. oiaohm says:


    kurkosdr High end Linux laptops you talk about 4k screens not HD screens.

    FullHD display are normally entry level Linux laptops. Serous-ally Linux buyers have never got why you would buy a screen that cannot do 1080p.

  4. kurkosdr says:

    BTW, since you guys are Linux folks, do you know which brands (beside lenovo) sell good laptops in blank/FreeDOS configuration?

    FullHD laptops will probably stop being made (save for the boutique alienware/ROG ones). Or, to be more accurate, it will be insanely expensive.

    So, I might as well buy a blank/FreeDOS machine and drop a Windows 10 insider preview (plus Ubuntu) in it.

  5. ram says:

    “Intel is putting all the cards in place that they can push back insanely hard.”

    Whoever controls the silicon can push back really hard. I never did understand why IBM didn’t just cripple MS products on its hardware. Intel is not the only company whose hardware runs optimized Linux applications hundreds of times faster than “corresponding” Microsoft ones, but they certainly are big enough to do it openly.

  6. kurkosdr says:

    or Full HD display

    No! No! No! No! No! As if 1366×768 CrapPanels(tm) weren’t abundant enough (even in 17-inch laptops), Microsoft is looking to reduce the number of laptops sporting a proper FullHD display even further.

  7. oiaohm says:

    Really this is Microsoft attempting to use the same play book again.

    With netbooks Microsoft define if it was under a particular size screen OEM could get cheaper license.

    The thing here is the OEM are making more Chromebooks and Android devices as well as GNU/Linux stuff.

    People talk about opengl support on GNU/Linux being behind and this is true.


    Of course people who don’t follow mesa progress would have missed this.

    OpenGLES 3.1 development rate is way faster than you would expect. We talk about the Wintel alliance that made windows. There is a very big risk of Android Intel alliance. Proper Android support by Mesa requires functional OpenGLES 3.1. The reality here is Android has started off with its own custom graphics drivers and very soon could be using bog standard GNU/Linux graphics drivers. Bog standard intel drivers equals able to run on intel hardware inside a virtual machine perfectly Intel GVT-g.

    So strange would be Android with KVM support so allowing Windows to run inside Android using Intel GVT-g so graphics work.

    Microsoft cost to OEM for Windows cannot greater than the Retail price.


    Really a we are on the path to a tri operating system solution.

    People have always said Linux people can just format over Windows. So why cannot it be mandatory for Windows users to have to install Windows in a KVM/xen instance. Push too hard Microsoft how OEM will push back will ruin your future. Intel is putting all the cards in place that they can push back insanely hard.

  8. luvr says:

    Hmmm… So ,”the vendors are concerned that the increased fees could impact their profitability from high-end models”? They sure won’t get any profits from me if they keep trying to shove Windows down my throat, so if they really are that “concerned,” then I suggest they offer their high-end models without Windows. That just might get me interested.

  9. dougman says:

    Well M$ pays OEM’s to recommend Windows, pays OEM’s to build phones. So it would be no stretch of the imagination to say that M$ pays OEM’s to sell Windows.

  10. ram says:

    As long as Microsoft has access to unlimited funds from the USA’s Federal Reserve Bank (which is a private bank no more “federal” than “Federal Express”) then they will continue to be able to pay OEM’s to use Microsoft. Once those OEM’s realize the Fed’s debt based fiat currency has no value they will be less cooperative 😉

  11. Agent_Smith says:

    You can bet they are anxious to leave the ship. Valve (from that fatso guy Newell) saw the light first and jumped earlier. Now Dell is pushing buguntu in its webstore(too bad its hardware is either: outdated and expensive, or high end but super expensive – And not working in GNU/Linux 100%).
    But, yes, it’s a trend they will not recover.


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