GNU/Linux Desktop Breaks Out In Finland


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Weekdays are interesting. Those are the days we find out whether folks are just playing with GNU/Linux at home or putting it to work. Finland has seen huge spikes in usage, all on weekdays. 😎

Maybe it’s their women..

Maybe it’s their schools using GNU/Linux for exams. It’s based on Debian GNU/Linux Jessie 8.0 Jessie coming soon!.

Maybe it’s the Finnish desire to be their own people instead of slaves to Wintel.

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23 Responses to GNU/Linux Desktop Breaks Out In Finland

  1. antifanboy, ignoring that FI has spiked GNU/Linux page-views for weeks now and the average share of page-views for GNU/Linux has jumped, wrote what he wrote.

    Look at the weekly data:
    Date GNU/Linux
    2015-13 2.73
    2015-14 2.81
    2015-15 3.98
    2015-16 6.19
    2015-17 7.05
    2015-18 4.92

    It’s looking good to me, one who was told repeatedly that GNU/Linux would never have greater than ~1% utilization just because… I don’t know what is causing those spikes but there is some serious activity involving GNU/Linux there.

  2. satrain18 mumbled…

    This just in. The city of Helsinki has decided to prefer FLOSS from now on. It has mindshare in Finland. They’re not thinking of going LibreOffice on GNU/Linux just yet but there’s nothing to stop them once they’ve escaped lock-in every other way.

  3. DrLoser wrote, “…the norm in Finland. Is it 3% or 13%?”

    3% is probably closer to the norm but there may well be 13% PCs with GNU/Linux just not all working 24×7. See, StatCounter records page-views, not extant PCs/unique visitors etc. Assuming page-views and count of PCs are linearly related, I’d take the peak value of page-views to indicate count of PCs and the average to reflect just that, the average rate of page-views which for particular visitors like students may be highly biased by day of week, date, season, topic of the day etc. The average usage is probably unaffected much by that except that there are a lot of students around.

    I’ve worked in schools and monitored traffic to the web. It’s quite volatile and may be different from one day to the next. e.g. field-days, teachers’ inservice and the like get almost no traffic. Several teachers assigning projects requiring search/research/reading/viewing from the web may cause heavy enough loads to reduce the usefulness of an Internet connection. That’s why I recommend web-caches for schools. Even with the cache, a site may get a hit or two for things that change rapidly like news of the day, weather, discussion etc. and indeed, so many sites have scripts that the cache cannot anticipate the result of all requests or even the majority of them.

  4. DrLoser says:

    No, he’s [oiaohm] not. Say, on Monday, every school is having a celebration of athletism with competitions out on the yard all day long and don’t get to the lab or to clusters in classrooms. Zero page-views…

    Indeed oiaohm is 100% correct, Robert, which is precisely why I keep asking you for your opinion on the norm in Finland. Is it 3% or 13%?

    If it is 3%, then oiaohm’s position on physical impossibility is laudably honest.

    So, which one is it, Robert? Don’t slither around like a slippery eel, man — make a commitment for once in your life.

  5. DrLoser says:

    DrLoser wrote …

    Robert Pogson is evidently not a fan of Lewis Carroll or John Tenniel.

  6. DrLoser wrote, “suing Android handset and ChromeOS devices.”

    Who have M$ sued. What they are doing is playing the role of “non-practicing entity”. FAT expires soon, and M$’s bottom line will crumble.

  7. DrLoser says:

    Fact: M$ for compensates its lack of innovation, by suing Android handset and ChromeOS devices.

  8. DrLoser wrote, “oiaohm is 100% correct on this point”.

    No, he’s not. Say, on Monday, every school is having a celebration of athletism with competitions out on the yard all day long and don’t get to the lab or to clusters in classrooms. Zero page-views. On Tuesday, they all write reports, news letters, blog entries, look up physiological norms, or enter scores in a central database site monitored by StatCounter. Voila! A 10% swing.

    Finland is a rather smallish country with only a few hundred K students. These things can happen. I don’t know the school days in FI nor the curriculum, but I have been in many schools that had a cycle of activities like “assembly” Monday AM and half-time teachers running the lab. Such swings are certainly possible. Moreover, FI is having a makeover for the curriculum and a new system of computerized examinations for high school. Some combination of all that could induce such behaviour. Either that or StatCounter is hallucinating. I doubt that.

  9. DrLoser says:

    Anyway, Robert.

    3% or 13%. Which is the Finland norm?

    I presume you have a view on this. Share it with us, will you?

  10. DrLoser says:

    Of course MS Trolls have wanted to call my errors in Statscounter BS. Now that the numbers are not showing what they want to see they are upset about it. Sorry BS negative FUD has been speed using statscounter numbers about Linux is now fair that BS positive FUD about Linux market share is spread now. Yes using items like statscounter in correct in the past is causing the usage now.

    Unintelligible gibberish.

    I shall stop worshipping at the shrine of St Fifi of the Red Leather Thong forthwith.

    May I be damned to perdition!

  11. DrLoser says:

    And I have just marked this day on my calendar. It should be a national holiday in Australia.

    I’m divided between the observation that Halley’s Comet will pass along soon enough and joint celebrations will be in order, and the alternative observation that there are plenty of shrines to St Fifi in the more remote areas of Australia, thr.

    Either way, I’m always up for a celebration.

  12. thr says:

    oiaohm is 100% correct on this point, Robert.

    And I have just marked this day on my calendar. It should be a national holiday in Australia.

  13. DrLoser says:

    oiaohm wrote, “The physical impossibility of changing 10 percent in a day should be enough of a telling that the percentages displayed by Statscounter mean very little other than trend information.”

    oiaohm is 100% correct on this point, Robert.

  14. DrLoser says:

    It’s not impossible. School kids who might browse the web range from 10-18 years of age, about 10% of the population.

    It depends what you wish to measure, Robert. If your only aim is to measure web access (through some presumably representative filter such as StatCounter), then do by all means go ahead.

    If you want to measure the number of Linux desktops on the ground, then I am afraid schoolkids and rollouts and the rest are, at best, wild and very silly speculation.

    Go on then, which is it? Linux desktops in Finland are pretty much obviously either 3% of the market or 13% of the market.

    Which do you think it is?

  15. oiaohm wrote, “The physical impossibility of changing 10 percent in a day should be enough of a telling that the percentages displayed by Statscounter mean very little other than trend information.”

    It’s not impossible. School kids who might browse the web range from 10-18 years of age, about 10% of the population. Schools often take weekends off and may go days without browsing the web. It is hard to imagine every student being offline on some particular day, unless FI has a rigid curriculum like NL where every student is doing exactly the same thing the same day to accomodate mobility of “boat-people”.

  16. oiaohm says:

    These massive spikes also suggest the numbers are also totally undependable. Like I don’t exactly see how 10 percent+ of Finland population of computer could switch back and forwards in a single day.

    Statscounter is really only good for trends not market percentages due to what is going. Of course I bet some idiots will be playing the card that the market has to be 3 or 13 percent so pick what one you like. Really wild number movements say the correct answer in all olds will not be either 3 or 13 heck may not even be in the middle. The physical impossibility of changing 10 percent in a day should be enough of a telling that the percentages displayed by Statscounter mean very little other than trend information.

    Of course MS Trolls have wanted to call my errors in Statscounter BS. Now that the numbers are not showing what they want to see they are upset about it. Sorry BS negative FUD has been speed using statscounter numbers about Linux is now fair that BS positive FUD about Linux market share is spread now. Yes using items like statscounter in correct in the past is causing the usage now.

  17. oiaohm says:

    Really this massive swings in statscounter is matching exactly what I kinda expected. School students do in fact make up a large percent of people detect on the Internet.

    What it is suggesting is getting over 10 percent market share will not require getting individual agreements.

  18. DrLoser says:

    That graph is interesting, Robert, but not particularly for whatever fantasy you are currently pursuing. So let’s first disabuse you of your massive statistical solecism before proceeding.

    It’s telling that a peak for GNU/Linux is not a peak for any other OS

    No it isn’t, Robert. A percentage is a ratio. It is not an absolute number.

    Outside the Amazon basin, most people would be able to recognise quite quickly that, if one percentage spikes, the complementary percentages are even less likely to spike.

    But that point is trivial. On to a more interesting question: why do you somehow feel that these massive spikes are important?

    We can assume “normative behaviour” in Finland at roughly 3% (the bottom end of the range). Or, we can assume “normative behaviour” in Finland at roughly 13% (which seems to be the median spike).

    A simple question, then. Do you think that 13% of desktop computers in Finland run Gnu/Linux? Or do you think that 3% of desktop computers in Finland run Gnu/Linux?

    One would presume either one or the other.

  19. kurkosdr wrote, “(Finland is not some third-world Elbonia, where the government and schools turning on their computers swings results one direction or another)”

    True, but the pattern fits usage in schools: perhaps long periods of time between usage of the web, concentrating on using local skills or applications, weekdays,…

    Governments are more diverse in their use of IT and probably spend much less time on the web. They tend to use specific applications a lot like office suite, databases etc.

    Businesses might do test-drives but several of them? Perhaps a business with many branches, like banks, but they tend not to be browsing random sites… You’d think businesses might do a test followed by a rollout, either a ramp or switching on, not like this.

    It’s also possible something has changed in StatCounter’s sample-space, like some popular magazine getting GNU/Linux hits only when certain FLOSS-related articles are produced. That might explain the peaks but not the valleys. Why aren’t such articles of interest any day of the week? Further, no neighbouring country has any such peaks suggesting that it’s a Finnish thing. I’ve looked, but it’s hard to search in Finn, for me.

    No, I think schools are the most likely cause, widespread use in schools combined with occasional feeding-frenzies on some StatCounter-monitored site(s). It’s telling that a peak for GNU/Linux is not a peak for any other OS, so, it’s not just some popular site getting GNU/Linux hits. It suggests GNU/Linux is widespread in schools. I think that’s the way education should be.

    Google Trends finds “linux” is at breakout levels in Sweden and Finland with northern Finland exploding.

  20. kurkosdr says:

    (Finland is not some third-world Elbonia, where the government and schools turning on their computers swings results one direction or another)

  21. kurkosdr says:

    16%… Hmm…

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