A New Era For GNU/Linux Desktops In Italy

Christmas had an overpowering effect in Italy this year. GNU/Linux sprang forth in all its glory. Look at the two trends in the following graph:

Until Christmas or shortly before, GNU/Linux was kind of flat with just a small daily variation and little real growth. At Christmas there was obviously a huge influx of consumers’ PCs with GNU/Linux. Otherwise, they had the biggest “installfest” ever. The daily peaks on the weekends doubled just like that. Then, amazingly, the weekdays began yielding a steady increase in GNU/Linux. I was right. Availability on retail shelves and in schools does fuel a revolution. Is this The Year Of The GNU/Linux Desktop in Italy? Stay tuned.

In the news, several local governments in Italy have announced plans to begin migration to GNU/Linux:

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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21 Responses to A New Era For GNU/Linux Desktops In Italy

  1. oiaohm says:

    oldfart sorry but I have caught you out lieing enough times. So you are just a lier who will not admit it.

  2. oldfart says:

    “Why? Are you trying to save the world from little, old me? Do you think I’m dangerous?”

    Nope. Actually, Neither of us matters in the bigger scheme of things. But when you insist on proposing your “thinking for yourself” as a prescription for “all” which includes me. I reserve the right to comment about what I see as inconsistencies.

  3. oldfart says:

    “Really coming from the master of disinformation. ”

    I do not take criticism from an admitted liar and fraud.

  4. oldfart wrote, “Someone has to keep you honest, Robert Pogson.”

    Why? Are you trying to save the world from little, old me? Do you think I’m dangerous?

  5. oiaohm says:

    oldfart
    Someone has to keep you honest, Robert Pogson.
    Really coming from the master of disinformation.

    You don’t get basic facts in your mind that Linux went Enterprise as of year 2000. If you want to keep people honest you better have the correct facts yourself.

    Now if you are here to keep Me and Robert honest you should be keeping DrLoser honest as well. Other wise you are a bias bit of work.

  6. oldfart says:

    “If we are “non-active” and this is just some kind of museum, why do you keep coming back? Aren’t there other places you should visit?”

    Someone has to keep you honest, Robert Pogson.

  7. oiaohm says:

    Something to remember Windows 8.1 has been out for 15 months and its only around 12 to 13 percent by web stats. Between 0.2-1.2 percent growth per month would be matching Microsoft latest OS in webstats. 0.5 per month is in the ball park.

    The question now is this some strange event or is Linux in Italy starting to grow like a Windows OS. Time will tell.

    I can see many marketing reasons for Mirosoft giving Windows 10 out as huge freebies to try to maintain the appearance that there market share is not destroyable. Between Android OS/i and OS X you are looking at 35 percent not Microsoft on-line in that market. We could see this become 50 percent plus in time with the addition of Linux desktops.

  8. DrLoser wrote, “Linux makes a whopping gain from 2% to 3%”.

    That’s a 50% gain in a short period of time. Amazing.

  9. DrLoser wrote, “Have you tried an OSX machine, btw?”

    Indeed I have, once. An expert flew in to our remote northern school to set it up and it had already failed to print within hours of his departure. Not sure what that has to do with anything here but I did not find it wonderful and it didn’t work for us. Is was an early version, however. So, I converted a few MacOS 7-8 machines to GNU/Linux and folks e-mailed me their documents to print… Those earlier Macs were absolutely horrible so OS/X was relatively wonderful but nowhere nearly as reliable as GNU/Linux, Yellow Dog, that was.

  10. DrLoser wrote, “non-active adherents to the FLOSS movement”.

    If we are “non-active” and this is just some kind of museum, why do you keep coming back? Aren’t there other places you should visit?

  11. DrLoser says:

    I’ve found the perfect Yiddish word for describing the non-active adherents to the FLOSS movement (ie pretty much everybody here, with the probable exception of ram) btw:

    schnorrer: beggar, esp. “one who wheedles others into supplying his wants” (Yiddish שנאָרער shnorer, cf. German Schnorrer (OED, MW)

    I’ll keep looking, but that one is a darn fine summary.

  12. DrLoser says:

    Oh, and Windows Phone gets a consistent 50% or so of the Linux Desktop share.

    If you can’t do better than that, against a deprecated and obsolete Wintel product, then frankly you ain’t not never gonna be worth bupkis.

  13. DrLoser says:

    Have you tried an OSX machine, btw? I’d wander around to a neighbour with a cup of sugar and ask to do so.

    You might well be blown away by the experience. As, apparently, have many Italians, when comparing it to the Linux desktop.

  14. DrLoser says:

    You, and StatCounter, sometimes, may not notice that Android/Linux is not a desktop OS but when you select the right URI, “Top 8 Desktop and Mobile Operating Systems in Italy from 1 January 2014 to 17 February 2015″, you get Android/Linux taking a huge bite out of “7”.

    What, you think I didn’t do that? (Practically immediately as it happens. As usual, I distrust your tendency to confirmation bias, Robert.)

    If anything, the figures are worse for Android/Linux. Interesting massive surge round about August, though. Died down soon after.

    What the extra tick shows me is that Windows 8.1 went from 3% to 13%, without making a significant impact on Windows 7 (42% to 38%). Android goes from ~10% to ~13%.

    And, incidentally, ChromeOS goes from 0.01% to 0.02%. Never mind, I’m pretty sure that Italians can find a better use for a Chromebook than simple browsing. The baking tray for pizza, possibly?

    And Linux makes a whopping gain from 2% to 3% (I generalise through variance). Whoopee.

    You can use these figures to present the case that Android has a serious slice of the market, Robert. I mean, it’s only slightly behind Windows 8.1, which is not entirely shabby for an OS that started 0.5% behind Windows XP in the year of XPocalypse, and a full 1.5% ahead of Windows 8 and Windows 8.1 combined

    I admire your boundless enthusiasm, Robert. But the numbers in Italy? They don’t support it.

  15. oiaohm says:

    Robert Pogson you missed turning on tablet and console. Yes statscounter likes breaking numbers down into groups a lot.

  16. oiaohm says:

    DrLoser sorry if you turn mobile tablet and console on in the number Android appears.

    Italy android when told to show is running 14-16 percent over all. This means Android has more on-line presence than Windows 8.1 . Only 1 Windows has more presence.

    Linux in over all drops back to 3 percent but there has been a spike since the start of year. Last year was sub 2 percent.

    Yes stats counter has move things around but it still showing a lot of Linux growth.

  17. DrLoser wrote, “At the beginning of this timeframe, Linux+Android = 4.15%. At the end, the sum equals, ahem, 4.15%.”

    You, and StatCounter, sometimes, may not notice that Android/Linux is not a desktop OS but when you select the right URI, “Top 8 Desktop and Mobile Operating Systems in Italy from 1 January 2014 to 17 February 2015”, you get Android/Linux taking a huge bite out of “7”. Clearly, StatCounter has not figured out how to play the game nor do simple sorting, but at least it shows dramatic changes. I don’t count on them having the right numbers but at least they are in bulk and cheap.

  18. DrLoser says:

    Well, let’s take a closer look, shall we, Robert?

    At the beginning of this timeframe, Linux+Android = 4.15%. At the end, the sum equals, ahem, 4.15%. (The day after Valentine’s Day. It ticked down a bit after that, but who’s counting?) One notable stat is that Android on its own has been at 0% since mid-February last year. Presumably all those page-views went somewhere … and have now migrated back to where they belong, ie the Linux figures.

    Not especially awe-inspiring, is it? You should change horses and bet on OSX, which posted strong growth from a stronger starting position: ~10% to -12.5% over the same period.

    Of course, OSX is a fully-functional modern OS based on FreeBSD, neither of which attributes is likely to appeal to you. Nor, frankly, is the expense. But on a cost-benefit analysis, if you discount things like Windows 8.1 (which, btw, more than took up the slack from Windows 8.0 in these figures), you should find OSX much to your liking:

    1) It isn’t Wintel.
    2) Apple make the most desirable Thin Clients on the planet. In two very appealing form factors!
    3) It isn’t Wintel.
    4) You’d probably find launchd much more to your taste than systemd.
    5) Did I mention that, not only is it not Wintel, but that it’s apparently kicking Wintel’s butt in Italy?

    What’s not to like?

  19. dougman says:

    Kuku…Linux is VERY relevant you dweeb.

  20. kurkosdr wrote, “A minor peak in GNU/Linux browser share. Is Desktop Linux relevant now or what?”

    Let’s see. 4.12% on Saturday, 4.15% on Sunday, 3.42% on Monday, and 3.53% on Tuesday. That’s not a peak, that’s a wave washing aside Bill’s goal to have that other OS on every PC everywhere all the time. 4.15% on Sunday was the highest level anywhere in Europe, far above Germany, France, Spain, Finland and Norway, the previous front runners. Folks have noticed those. It’s time to notice Italy. The fast ramp could indicate some glitch but the steady growth for so many weeks starting at Christmas is more than a coincidence. There are ~36M users of the Internet there, probably a similar number of PCs. That’s thousands of PCs bought with GNU/Linux and/or installed of GNU/Linux each week. That matters. The more consumers and workers see GNU/Linux as “normal”, “omnipresent”, “useful”, etc. the weaker Wintel becomes. Chuckle, GNU/Linux is now ahead of “8” and “Vista” in Italy.

  21. kurkosdr says:

    WoW! A minor peak in GNU/Linux browser share. Is Desktop Linux relevant now or what?

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