Reports Of The Death Of GNU/Linux In Munich Are Greatly Exaggerated

Here and elsewhere we read that the mayor and M$ are drooling to pave over GNU/Linux with that other OS in Munich…“Suggestions the council has decided to back away from Linux are wrong, according to council spokesman Stefan Hauf.
He said the council’s recently elected mayor Dieter Reiter has instead simply commissioned a report into the future IT system for the council.”
Not so. The mayor is grumbling and has asked for a review of IT in general. That’s a normal part of the life-cycle of any IT-system or version of software. I did that at several of the schools where I worked and the decision to go to GNU/Linux occurred frequently. In GNU/Linux, a result could be to go to a later release of Debian, or to adopt LibreOffice 4.x or to go with thin clients almost everywhere…

Of course, the mayor might get a different result if he accepts voluntary labour from M$ or hires his nephew to do the research, but the council is wide awake and understands the issues, so I doubt there will be some coup in IT.

Further, I can’t see this mayor being reelected if he urges the city to spend ~$30million on returning to the fold of M$ rather than maintaining GNU/Linux for peanuts.

See Ditching Linux for Windows? The truth isn't that simple, says Munich.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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12 Responses to Reports Of The Death Of GNU/Linux In Munich Are Greatly Exaggerated

  1. wolfgang says:

    …mayor is grumbling…
    article says that München employees are grumbling, not so much mayor. city clerks have fat bottoms there just like everywhere and now have excuse to sit and blame lack of output on funny system. who can say no? mayors not gurus and if they ask windows guru, he says is linux problem. if ask linux guru, he say is user problem. mayor who selected linux is on spot in either case, so solution for mayor is to be like other cities and put back windows. then no problem for München mayor. hand is writing on the wall here.

  2. dougman wrote, “Copying? Are you too blind to see the quote marks?”

    Well, where is your licence to copy the whole article? Ever heard of copyright? It’s fine to quote a relevant passage but one needs permission to copy a significant portion beyond “fair use”. I can edit it down. Suggest some limits…

  3. dougman says:

    Copying? Are you too blind to see the quote marks?

    Paraphrasing? Are you too lazy to read?

    LOL at the blind and dumb trolls.

  4. IGnatius T Foobar wrote, “Of course Munich never ran GNU/Linux in the first place, because there is no such thing. It’s simply called “Linux” and Munich is still running it.”

    Munich ran a bunch of applications that used the X window system. That doesn’t happen weith Linux, but it does happen with GNU/Linux. e.g. LibreOffice and FireFox.

    see Ars Technica: “The decision to ditch Microsoft was also born of necessity. In 2002 the council knew official support for Windows NT, the OS used on 14,000 staff machines at the council, would soon run out. The council ordered a study of the merits of switching to XP and Office versus a GNU/Linux OS, OpenOffice and other free software.”

  5. Of course Munich never ran GNU/Linux in the first place, because there is no such thing. It’s simply called “Linux” and Munich is still running it.

  6. BobK54 wrote, “The MS article says the original switch to Linux was politically motivated!!”

    Of course it was politically motivated. Munich city council adopted a policy of being independent of M$ and others. The idea that any government should be beholden to M$ is absolutely treachery, just like saying our army should depend on the enemy to supply munitions… The government of Munich is supposed to work for the good of citizens, not M$. Clearly, paying an infinite sum of licensing fees to M$ when there is a perfectly good alternative costing much less is not in the best interests of citizens.

  7. BobK54 says:

    For a hilarious MS spin on the news look at this article:
    That article quotes pretty much the same points the other articles but spins them a completely different way. The best: other articles talk about the mayor working with MS to get an HQ built in Munich and says politics may be behind the call to re-evaluate Linux. The MS article says the original switch to Linux was politically motivated!!
    Wow. SPIN.

  8. oiaohm says:

    The issue is that Limux might be going to have changes. Its due for a review like are they going to implement openchange to allow outlook clients. Desktop environment updates also have happened. Things have moved on. Even in a Linux environment a software review is required from time to time.

  9. DrLoser says:

    (Well, you did</Ii ask for a paraphrase, Robert.)

  10. DrLoser says:

    According to Dougie:

    What is certain is the fact that LiMux is not going anywhere, at least not anytime soon.

    Apparently, even an under-educated oaf like Dougie can discern the truth every now and again.

    LiMux really isn’t going anywhere at all, is it?

  11. dougman did extensive copying from an article on the web. I suggest paraphrasing…

  12. dougman says:

    “Reports about the city of Munich authorities that are considering the replacement of Linux with Microsoft products mostly comes from one man, the Deputy Mayor of Munich, who is also a long-term self-declared Windows fan.

    Munich is the poster child for the adoption of a Linux distribution and the replacement of the old Windows OS. It provided a powerful incentive for other cities to do the same, and it’s been a thorn in Microsoft’s side for a very long time.

    The adoption of open source software in Munich started back in 2004 and it took the local authorities over 10 years to finish the process. It’s a big infrastructure, but in the end they managed to do it. As you can imagine, Microsoft was not happy about it. Even the CEO of Microsoft, Steve Ballmer, tried to stop the switch to Linux, but he was too late to the party.

    The more naive users might think that Microsoft stopped there, but it has been lobbying around the clock to counter this blow to their image, especially now that multiple cities are following Munich’s example. The new voice of Microsoft might just be the Deputy Mayor of Munich, Josef Schmid, who said a while ago that he was a fan of Microsoft products, or at least this is what the German websites report.

    The entire discussion about a return of Windows to Munich was started by the current Deputy Mayor, who is not a supporter of LiMux, the current Linux operating system used throughout the city. He had a number of reasons to exemplify why Linux was bad. He said that people were unhappy with Linux, but he didn’t actually provide any kind of proof to this matter. He added that he had to wait for someone to set up an email server on his phone, and that he “thought” that Linux applications were lagging behind similar Microsoft products.

    The City Council doesn’t agree with what he’s saying, and the former LiMux project manager, Peter Hofmann, said basically the same thing.

    Now, getting Microsoft products to replace something like the LiMux infrastructure is a difficult thing to do, even if the Mayor had the support of the City Council, which he doesn’t. The entire discussion seems to be just a political maneuver to help Microsoft save some face after all the battles that it lost so far.

    Microsoft did manage to clean its image as a bully that was keeping everyone down for a profit, but you have to remember that it’s still a huge company and that it will retaliate severely when it will feels threatened.

    What is certain is the fact that LiMux is not going anywhere, at least not anytime soon. The problem is that this story is now in the open and that a part of the audience will only remember the fact that a city is facing some problems with Linux and that it might not be that great.

    It’s difficult to anticipate what will happen next, but I’m pretty sure that Microsoft’s offensive is not stopping here. It’s a company that can still show the world it’s doing whatever it must to succeed, no matter the costs.”

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