M$’s Technological Evangelization Even Infects Girl Scouts

As one who taught for many years, I understand that concepts in software are much more important than features in particular applications frequently found on PCs. marco recently observed policies of Girl Scouts in Southern Nevada:
“All applications for employment will be considered without regard to race, religion, color, sex, age, national origin, citizenship, disability or marital status.”
“Page 3 of the same form asks applicants to rate their “proficiency with the following office equipment”:
Software:
_Microsoft Excel _Microsoft Outlook _Microsoft Word _Internet Explorer _Microsoft PowerPoint _Publisher _Others___

see Girl Scouts, other equal opportunity employers and… software discrimination.

This is symptomatic of M$’s “Technological Evangelization” which has a goal of “to establish Microsoft’s platforms as the de facto standards throughout the computer industry…. Working behind the scenes to orchestrate “independent” praise of our technology, and damnation of the enemy’s, is a key evangelism function during the Slog. “Independent” analyst’s report should be issued, praising your technology and damning the competitors (or ignoring them). “Independent” consultants should write columns and articles, give conference presentations and moderate stacked panels, all on our behalf (and setting them up as experts in the new technology, available for just $200/hour). “Independent” academic sources should be cultivated and quoted (and research money granted). “Independent” courseware providers should start profiting from their early involvement in our technology. Every possible source of leverage should be sought and turned to our advantage.

Evangelism’s goal is to put the final nail into the competing technology’s coffin, and bury it in the burning depths of the earth. Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental deficiency, as in, “he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2.” Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups, whatever. Make the complete failure of the competition’s technology part of the mythology of the computer industry. We want to place selection pressure on those companies and individuals that show a genetic weakness for competitors’ technologies, to make the industry increasingly resistant to such unhealthy strains, over time.”

Clearly, using Scouts to promote M$’s monopoly is not the reason Scouts exist. I hope they and others rethink their actions which speak louder than words. Schools need to wake up to the evil indoctrination they may be providing students. I know it was a wake-up call when I introduced schools, principals, teachers and students to Free Software. The insidious tentacles of M$ were deeply embedded like the cancer it is. It just takes a peek outside the box to realize how small it is.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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28 Responses to M$’s Technological Evangelization Even Infects Girl Scouts

  1. bw says:

    higher education is NOT what makes the person

    You seem to be dodging the question about high school.

  2. dougman says:

    You failed to mention that both doctors and pilots are LICENSED professions.

    IT certifications are not, BIG difference, and besides that higher education is NOT what makes the person, if it were then you would not have billionaires such as Gates, Jobs or Dell.

    Trying to infer that someone is stupid or lame by lack of pieces of paper is just showing your ignorance.

    M$ would so LOVE to lock-up the market with licenses and other crap, but good luck as the market will not go for it. This is why you see such outpouring of alternatives, namely Android.

    BW, you sound like someone that would approve of a internet drivers license.

    http://business.time.com/2010/01/30/drivers-licenses-for-the-internet/

  3. bw says:

    Question: Which would you prefer, a doctor fresh out of med-school or a surgeon that has performed 100s of surgeries

    Lets start with a doctor who has a degree from a medical school. Some high school kid who watched House for several seasons does not qualify. After we get a group of those who are qualified, then we can look at track records.

    Same goes with someone that flown 10,000 hours vs. someone receiving their ATP rating

    10000 hours In a Cherokee vs an ATR rated pilot in a 777? If I’m in the 777 landing at SFO, I vote for the latter.

    College degrees, and other miscellaneous pieces of paper doesn’t mean anything

    Sounds like you don’t have any of those either. How about high school?

  4. dougman says:

    I don’t need any stinking certifications…..LOL. I have people throwing money at me, to fix the misgiving of your beloved M$.

    The market has became bloated with “paper MCSEs,” who could pass tests despite having no real-world know-how, real-world experience trumps certification anyday.

    Fine, you passed a test…..ok…..Go rebuild that server and deploy it and setup a wiki for 50-users accounts by noon. Oh and this laptop is toast recover the drive, wipe it then shear it to give back to the customer, then reinstall everything to the SSD drive when it arrives in at 9am.

    Question: Which would you prefer, a doctor fresh out of med-school or a surgeon that has performed 100s of surgeries. Same goes with someone that flown 10,000 hours vs. someone receiving their ATP rating.

    College degrees, and other miscellaneous pieces of paper doesn’t mean anything. For you to say otherwise is LAME.

  5. bw says:

    I give MVPs no credibility what so ever. NONE…

    If you had any certifications of your own, perhaps you could compare them to those held by others, but with nothing to show, your complaint seems rather lame.

  6. dougman says:

    Who is this “they” you are referring to? Are you talking about yourself again? Surely, you jest as the majority of the web runs on Linux.

    Well if IT types knew business, then why are they IT admins? One only wonders…

    Well educated? Here is a resume of your standard M$ based IT education. A MCSE (possibly), MVP status, years of re-boots and point-clicking.

    I give MVPs no credibility what so ever. NONE…

  7. bw says:

    Very few don’t know they have choice except in places where GNU/Linux is not on retail shelves

    I think you have been in the woods too long. I doubt that there is a single IT manager for even a small company who does not understand that there is a choice of Linux, Unix, Windows, and even IBM products for providing necessary IT services for their organization. What is on the shelves at Best Buy does not enter into their planning.

    Yet they choose to buy Windows servers and clients more than all of the other choices combined. They are not the “sheeple” and other derogatory types that are referenced here by your chanting chorus, they are well-educated and professional IT managers/techs who know their business, have been to appropriate schools for training, and have passed certification tests in most cases.

    You have to give some credibility to their continued selection of Windows. It may be you who are the oddball.

  8. It depends on turnover of staff. In some organizations, the same guys who made the choice are still running things and must defend it. In others, the guys who made the choice are long gone and no one knows why the choice was made. IMHO a real choice has often not been made because they chose any OS as long as it’s from M$. Only a few years ago all layers of IT from OEM to retailer to consumer accepted that as they way things are done. Everything’s changed now. Very few don’t know they have choice except in places where GNU/Linux is not on retail shelves.

  9. ram says:

    People need to look at why an organization has certain procurement practices. If their procurements don’t make sense, but they claim they always did things that way, it is an almost sure indication of corruption.

  10. Kevin Lynch says:

    I think some people need to get some perspective. If a company or organisation relies on software brand “A”, they will naturally look to hire people familiar with that software.

    If I were setting up a business or organisation I’d use FOSS. But I know better.

  11. dougman says:

    What are my qualifications?

    Fair enough……Word of mouth referrals, happy customers, glossy reviews, a 90-day refund guarantee and money in the bank.

    bw, do not put words on my mouth. I do not despise anyone or anything, I just point out facts as I see them and unfortunately people do not like it.

    😛

  12. bw says:

    When one is brought in to consult…

    So what are your qualifications in terms of IT expertise? How is it so superior to those of the IT mavens you despise?

  13. dougman says:

    The presence of Microsoft in an organization, is a sure indicator of ignorance of IT, within that organization and if you ‘sniff’ around the edges, one is sure to find influence from a MVP or what have you.

    When one is brought in to consult, and you start making recommendations these M$ brained-trained folk sort of people explode as to why “my solution”, ” a cheaper, less costly solution”, “a Linux solution”, will not work for a multitude of reasons.

    What they are actually doing, is protecting their ‘gravy-train’; as once you start explaining Linux to C-types and how everyone is using Linux these days, along with the long-term costs savings, their ears perk. They begin to look across the table at their over-paid IT dude and wonder why are we paying you so much money and spending so much on IT??

  14. ram says:

    The Girl Scouts endorsing Microsoft is saying they endorse Microsoft’s marketing “after parties” with narcotics and (mostly female) prostitutes in abundance. What does that say about the Girl Scouts value system? Is it down there with the child molestors running some churches?

  15. ram says:

    The presence of Microsoft in an organization is a sure indicator of corruption within that organization. The corruption will not just be with software procurement but is sure to be much wider.

  16. matchrocket says:

    bw writes: “Ah, Pogson, you attract such sophisticated followers! Don’t they make you proud?”

    When a Microsoft troll goes down in flames he does so with the most vulgar insults. Those are the people you associate with bw. You are a Microsoft troll, you don’t deserve to be treated with respect. That honor is reserved for people who are trying to make the world a better place, not for those who are trying to enslave more people to Microsoft. That’s what you do bw. You deserve a lot worse than what you’ve been dealt with on this blog.

  17. oiaohm says:

    http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/07/03/amd-joins-the-document-foundation-advisory-board-to-accelerate-libreoffice/

    bw the problem here as Linux people have been aware of that tight integration of MS Office. bw list how do you break that.

    You are a competitor you want in. How would you go about breaking open this.

    First thing you need is the formats MS Office openly documented right. Particularly in a way that Microsoft cannot extend and alter without tell you. Open Source world has pulled this off.

    Next is getting the applications out there using that information. This is still a work in progress. Remember bw you raised about sharepoint integration and I had to point out to you LibreOffice had that now.

    Also all of Excel formula parts include request bits from websites come in the next version of Libreoffice. Excel does not have GPU processing support either yet. So there is a new feature race.

    bw tightly evolved also defines the Unix relationships before Linux. Tightly evolved does not mean it cannot come apart. How did Linux weaken Unix. Binary compatibility layer of course.

    Has Linux changed. Yes it has. Release of steam was a big mile stone. 1 place that binaries for all Distributions could be released.

    Ubuntu flipped images are another milestone. These are where Ubuntu fires up then starts Android inside a Control Group. So exposing a second store to provide applications to Linux. Of course that integration is not perfected yet.

    bw this is why the arguement that Android is not Linux was such a big flaw. You were never thinking the existing Distributions would just absorb in time Androids runtime. So becoming Android and GNU run-times both on one Linux kernel.

    Its not like wine is standing still either. Its bring in support for Windows RT binaries. Linux kernel 3.11 supports what is need to run them on arm platforms.

    So this could be funny. People who have coded Windows RT binaries might have a bigger market to Ubuntu and Tizen devices than Microsofts RT OS devices.

  18. bw says:

    Ah, Pogson, you attract such sophisticated followers! Don’t they make you proud?

  19. lpbbear says:

    “Jump in the lake? I haven’t heard that expression for quite a while. ”

    Probably not. I would imagine the expression you are most used to hearing frequently is “Go f**k yourself!”.

  20. matchrocket says:

    bw, in a moment of great perspiration wrote: “I think that companies in general are not looking for any alternatives.”

    You’re a Microsoft troll bw. What you think doesn’t matter. Dog farts are more important than your words. All that matters is that you poke and prod Linux advocates and they respond with information and facts to your misinformation and lies.

  21. bw says:

    like IBM, Novell, RedHat and Canonical

    Are you sure about Novell?

  22. bw wrote, “What is in play are the entrenched procedures of major corporations that are willing and able to pay large sums of money for their IT operations and who have, over many years of evolution, tightly integrated MS Office functionality into their operating procedures.”

    Folks who run businesses are not insane. They don’t choose to pay excessively for any product/service. They don’t choose unreliable partners. They use M$’s stuff because they made the mistake of doing what bw suggests years ago. Upgrades of IT do give businesses the opportunities to change the OS and office suites. There are people who make a living helping out along those lines, like IBM, Novell, RedHat and Canonical.

  23. bw says:

    So, go jump in the lake, bw… Price/performance of FLOSS office suites is superior and performance is certainly adequate

    Jump in the lake? I haven’t heard that expression for quite a while. I think that companies in general are not looking for any alternatives. I am sure that there are quite a few businesses that are totally satisfied with Open Office or similar solutions, too. What is in play are the entrenched procedures of major corporations that are willing and able to pay large sums of money for their IT operations and who have, over many years of evolution, tightly integrated MS Office functionality into their operating procedures.

    You can preach all day long about the efficacy of the FLOSS alternatives and you are technically, at least, correct. But that is not where the day is won or lost. No one here seems to understand that, at least on the Linux side of the fence.

  24. bw says:

    Huh? What has poverty to do with particular applications?

    If you are not forced by adverse circumstances to take the risk of using an odd ball solution, you will not bother with doing so. In reasonably affluent locations, the schools have MS Office and see no reason to differ.

    Nixie Pixel

    Did you notice that right in the beginning MS Office is acknowledged as the industry standard for Windows and Mac users?

  25. bw wrote of students who use GNU/Linux and LibreOffice, “They are never going to be able to pull themselves out of poverty if they are denied the tools necessary to do so.”

    Huh? What has poverty to do with particular applications? One can be equally employed, paid and benefitted from LibreOffice than that other stuff and I expect productivity is higher with FLOSS because folks don’t have so many re-re-reboots and malware attacks. Then there is “the ribbon” which seems to have been designed to reduce productivity…

    Nixie Pixel reviewed M$’s office suite and LibreOffice and rated LibreOffice 5 stars especially for consumers.

    Another review found “For enterprise businesses Microsoft Office suite has a slight edge over OpenOffice with some of its latest features and functionality but OpenOffice is also improving fast with each new release and can be your choice if it satisfies the desired requirements of your organization.
    For small businesses and home users OpenOffice offers compact feature set and should be strongly considered as a free alternative to Microsoft Office. OpenOffice also provides a lot of compatibility options with MS Office suite which can benefit home users.”

    An academic study of 10K seats migrated to OpenOffice.org in Finland found, “For IS practice, the study shows that the transition to an open source office suite is feasible in a large-scale context and that substantial benefits can be achieved as the result of the transition. For the user organizations of open source software, lower cost has been the most commonly cited benefit and one of the main reasons for adopting open source. Other often cited considerations include strategic goals like the facilitation of more sovereign IT governance and the reduction of vendor dependence through open source solutions and open standards. The study addresses several practically important
    issues involved in the adoption of open source, e.g., the analysis of software functionality and interoperability, cost evaluations, installation and configuration issues, local language support issues, additional tools to support the migration, user training and support, technical support, and software usage measurements. The evaluation of costs in the study indicates that the migration to the open source office suite platform will benefit the target organization of the study with impressive cost savings when compared to the deployment of a comparative proprietary office suite platform. The study applies numerous best practice approaches which together with the rich insight provided by the research should benefit other organizations considering open source office suite adoptions both from the perspectives of management and implementation.”

    While “The influence of OpenOffice.org to personnel productivity in document handling was not explicitly measured in the pilot project of the Ministry of Justice. Practical experience indicated that no obvious differences in document handling times could be noticed when compared to Lotus SmartSuite or Microsoft Office. In the following, results from productivity evaluations conducted in several studies are briefly presented.”, it quotes other studies that found e.g. “The results (Kristensen et al., 2005), released in May 2005, showed that there was no visible economic effect (neither influence in the use of resources nor in productivity) in the workflows, no matter which office suite was chosen. The only difference in the total costs (direct as well as indirect) was related to license fees. The authors also concluded that OpenOffice.org 1.1 is a valid alternative to MS Office 2003.”

    Further, they found “The revised 6-year costs in Table 6-4 for a full Microsoft Office migration would amount to a total of 6.8 M€, for the OpenOffice.org alternative to 2.1 M€, and for the Lotus SmartSuite alternative to 1.7 M€. The relative cost differences between the alternatives are high. The costs of the Lotus SmartSuite and OpenOffice.org alternatives represent 25-30 % of the costs of the Microsoft Office alternative.”

    So, go jump in the lake, bw… Price/performance of FLOSS office suites is superior and performance is certainly adequate.

  26. dougman says:

    Please, lets not start with the tired mantra that MS Office is any sort of standard, it is not.

    The objective is simply this:

    1. Can you write?
    2. Can you create presentations?
    3. Can use email?
    4. Can you use the Internet?
    5. Can you use spreadsheets?

    If you cannot, then keep walking.

    Who uses Publisher??? LOL..

    Seems to me some lazy person wrote a way out-dated specification for hiring.

    Here are a few tip to getting hired, that shows your proficiency over the rest.

    1. Have a website, where you blog routinely in the subject matter that you want to be employed.

    2. Do not fill out an employee application, provide a two-page resume with a colored paper-clip inside an envelope.

    3. Provide past references and links to your blogging website.

    4. Provide a sample book of your writings.

    This shows that YOU above all the others KNOW how to self-document, write, create, analysis and publish yourself.

    May the 4th be with you!

  27. oiaohm says:

    bw
    –That is the disservice being done to rural school children and other third worlders who are denied access to such industry standards and given the odd-ball alternatives like Linux and OpenOffice to use instead. They are never going to be able to pull themselves out of poverty if they are denied the tools necessary to do so.–

    This is MS Troll bogus arguement. MS redesigns there software every 5 to 10 years anyhow. So people have to be trained to be able to alter to the changed software in front of them.

    Most major ERP software run on Linux. Most of the need tools don’t require Windows.

    MS Office is a very inconstant over its time frame. bw “already competent applicants” this is also a joke. Most people are incompetent with MS Office due to the number of changes it keeps getting.

    Sad reality lack of stabilisation of interface for core application is a major business cost.

    The big problems MS is now suffering from with software rejection is because training has been too narrow.

  28. bw says:

    This is symptomatic of M$’s “Technological Evangelization” which has a goal of “to establish Microsoft’s platforms as the de facto standards throughout the computer industry

    More precisely it is symptomatic of the success of this Microsoft effort. Today MS Office IS the standard and most applicants for office jobs are already as proficient as needed in using these applications. A company hiring new workers need not waste any time or money training new hires in these disciplines since the pool of available, already competent applicants is so large.

    That is the disservice being done to rural school children and other third worlders who are denied access to such industry standards and given the odd-ball alternatives like Linux and OpenOffice to use instead. They are never going to be able to pull themselves out of poverty if they are denied the tools necessary to do so.

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