FUD Delays Migration To FLOSS in German State of Berlin

Years after Munich determined to migrate to FLOSS for IT, the state of Berlin is still dragging its feet. FUD seems to have held the day in committee…
“SPD objected to the plans, unsure how to procure open source solutions and doubting the use of open source for sensitive IT applications. CDU MPs disapproved of favouring open source.”
see Berlin State parliament bins proposal to move to open source

Being unsure is a silly thing in a committee set to study a matter. What did they do to become sure? Anyone thinking M$’s OS is more secure than GNU/Linux has not been living in the real world… I have long believed that FLOSS should be the default. There certainly is no good reason why M$’s OS should be the default. Talk about “preferences”…

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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6 Responses to FUD Delays Migration To FLOSS in German State of Berlin

  1. oiaohm says:

    Maou Sadao the list of good enough is growing. As bw is about to find out his two major not good enough reasons are dead.

    bw
    –The saving grace is that, from Win2K onward, the app would not kill the OS, just like Linux does today. An exception is thrown and the process is shut down and the rest of the apps can run.–
    This is only partly true. Problem is Digital Rights Management/Copy protection drivers and Windows. This is why Win2k on still has issues from time to time with OS completely dieing.

    Yes the Linux complaint about not being binary driver friendly is a double sided sword. This has stopped people going hey I am going to protect my application from cheats and being nicked by having a custom driver load into kernel space.

    Applications under Windows 2000 on normally due to copy protection crap drivers doing bad things is the death of the complete system.

    Hardware drivers yes should be in kernel space at times. Some driver to protect copyright or prevent cheating most likely should not be in kernel space.

    bw current day Libreoffice can connect to share-point. “Content Management Interoperability Services” Same interface Libreoffice uses to talk to many servers that do the same job as sharepoint. This is the thing the interface have been standardised by EU demards.

    Libreoffice integrating email client is Thunderbird. Guess what it connects to http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smbit/connect-the-thunderbird-email-client-to-your-exchange-server/1130 For exchange directly.
    http://davmail.sourceforge.net/
    Exchange indirectly.

    bw so sharepoint and exchange is no longer a major issue against using Linux.

    Sharepoint and Exchange are supported. Better start coming up for new reasons not to use Linux bw.

    bw I guess you have never tried chrome on Linux.

  2. wrote, “Linux is not the best solution for every problem. It’s not even a “good enough” solution for many problems.”

    Let’s see: 60%+ of websites and 90%+ of HPC systems find GNU/Linux the best solution. I find it the best solution for client machines as well. So do the many millions of users, many of whom would have not enough IT without GNU/Linux.

  3. Maou Sadao says:

    Blah-blah about technical superiority of Linux: utterly boring. And wrong. At least have the guts to admit why Linux has made it, Mr. Pogson: because it’s for free. And that works to our detriment, as Linux is not the best solution for every problem. It’s not even a “good enough” solution for many problems.

  4. bw says:

    “So, bw is out to lunch…”

    Nope, I was off working. But I am at lunch now, and can get to correcting your misstatements here.

    ◦Lose ’95 crashed in normal browsing or word-processing with a MTBF of about 5 hours. I never had a crash of GNU/Linux on 5 PCs in 6 months of use.
    â—¦An application failing could crash that other OS. With GNU/Linux, one merely kills a misbehaving application and carries on.

    I think these two are related. Using old 16 bit apps with Win95 could crash the OS, but it was a bug in the app that would initiate the problem. If the app itself won’t run, what good is it to blame the OS? I personally would find a more well-behaved app, but if you won’t pay for anything, then I guess you have to take what’s lying around.

    The saving grace is that, from Win2K onward, the app would not kill the OS, just like Linux does today. An exception is thrown and the process is shut down and the rest of the apps can run.

    â—¦StarOffice and later, LibreOffice have done everything I needed. Every browser I used on GNU/Linux has been superior to all versions of IE that I have tried

    That is odd. Every browser that I have tried with Linux has been pretty lame and sluggish in loading. IE has always been superior in my opinion. And LibreOffice cannot connect to an Exchange server or could it? How about a SharePoint server? Those are what we use.

    tests with hundreds of students over the years showed that there is no particular lack of familiarity except perhaps with the file-system which seems not to be a problem

    Perhaps that is true, but it required you to become a student and have a teacher. If you have done hundreds yourself over the years then all could be done by as few as 10 million teachers repeating your effort. Of course some of these users work and cannot conveniently come to these classes. I don’t think that is going to be very practical.

    “Android/Linux did enter a mature market as established by Apple”

    You consider phones and tablets as mature as PCs? That is being silly.

  5. bw wrote, “MSDOS then Windows has been the standard on PCs for 30 years. Perhaps “a day late and a dollar short” would ring a bell if you don’t have any respect for tradition. Linux is up to the level of Windows in the late 90′s with its minimal set of applications that are even remotely familiar to computer users.”

    GNU/Linux has been superior to that other OS since I first used it in 2000. Particular differences that I noted at that time:

    • Lose ’95 crashed in normal browsing or word-processing with a MTBF of about 5 hours. I never had a crash of GNU/Linux on 5 PCs in 6 months of use.
    • An application failing could crash that other OS. With GNU/Linux, one merely kills a misbehaving application and carries on.
    • StarOffice and later, LibreOffice have done everything I needed. Every browser I used on GNU/Linux has been superior to all versions of IE that I have tried.
    • tests with hundreds of students over the years showed that there is no particular lack of familiarity except perhaps with the file-system which seems not to be a problem.

    bw also wrote, “It is foolish to try to enter an established and stable market that is in a mature state with any sort of product.”

    */Linux has trounced that other OS on technical merits in every market tried so far. The lack of success with desktops is nothing more than the effect of M$’s anti-competitive actions which are well known. Android/Linux did enter a mature market as established by Apple. M$ and others claimed Android/Linux would get nowhere because iOS was so good and Apple’s hardware was so superior… We know how that went. Android/Linux is king on smartphones and is a prince with tablets.
    So, bw is out to lunch…

  6. bw says:

    “There certainly is no good reason why M$’s OS should be the default.”

    Can you say “time”? MSDOS then Windows has been the standard on PCs for 30 years. Perhaps “a day late and a dollar short” would ring a bell if you don’t have any respect for tradition. Linux is up to the level of Windows in the late 90’s with its minimal set of applications that are even remotely familiar to computer users. Lucky for Linux that people use web applications and games these days so that Liinux computers can limp along that way.

    It is foolish to try to enter an established and stable market that is in a mature state with any sort of product. Too many people are simply not interested in changing and do not care one whit for something different that ends up doing the same thing that they are already doing.

    Android made a splash and carved a big niche out of the newly evolving mobile market, but they did it at the right time with plenty of clout provided by a widely recognized brand, namely Google. Android wasn’t a success based on any technical merit. It was brand association that won the day.

    The very minor splash for Linux these days is solely due to Canonical and Ubuntu and Shuttleworth’s prodigious waste of his personal funds. Don’t kid yourself about people lusting for Linux if only given the chance.

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