Lightworks for Linux Imminent

“Here’s the first official video of the only professional-level video editor for Linux. We wanted to show this is a world class editor with all the power of Lightworks from the Windows version now available on the Linux platform.  This is the next step in creating a true multi-platform editing system with the Mac version coming soon.”
see RedShark News – Lightworks for Linux : First-ever official full-length demo.

I am looking forward to this. My favourite NLV editor in Debian GNU/Linux just went into a loop on me

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
This entry was posted in technology and tagged , , . Bookmark the permalink.

10 Responses to Lightworks for Linux Imminent

  1. kozmcrae says:

    The Trollrog wrote:

    “Lightworks is the perfect example that once again a company with money behind it had to come in to save the day.”

    I doubt if Lightworks’ business plan includes saving communities of developers, especially one as large as the Linux community. It is a good example of one of the many companies that become involved with Linux and open source. Get used to it Trollrog, Linux and open source are mainstream and this move by Lightworks is just another example of it.

  2. oiaohm says:

    ram blender support these days using GPUs on the cluster machines. Avid the cluster form also does.

    And you can cluster lightworks installs as well or use editshare storage back end to off load some work to(it also supports using GPU for conversions and modifications).

    Sorry to say modern day pro tool has GPU support back end and front end ram. Cluster is also a feature they must have as well to be at the top of the pile.

    Cinelerra is a case of it was. It has slipped behind on the tech requirements.

    When you strip out all those that don’t have GPU support and Clustering there are not many NLE left.

  3. ram says:

    Just a reminder with respect to Cinelerra:

    There are multiple versions, the FLOSS ‘Community Version’ (which has some restrictions on which CODECS can come with it) and the commercial versions supplied by the original creators of Cinelerra which can have any CODEC an organisation has a license for.

    Cinelerra, all versions, fully support back-end (cluster) processing and rendering. Most commercial clusters have computing power that dwarfs any graphics card. Also, nearly all (perhaps all) graphics cards and graphics processing units (GPUs) work in single precision whereas clusters can work in double precision. Single precision may be good enough for a final render but not really good enough for a long pipeline of color grading, compositing, and effects.

  4. oiaohm says:

    Der Balrog part correct and part wrong.
    Broadcast 2000 the original name of Cinelerra was in fact used in some holy-wood movies. But we are talking 1996-2000 time frame. Lightworks has a lot more recent moves.

    The first professional NLE on Linux goes to Broadcast 2000/Cinelerra. Problem is by today standard it is no longer professional. Its biggest reason for not having a following was lack of cross platform and how bad Linux was back when it was first brought to Linux.

    Cinelerra lacks storyboard and GPU acceleration that is required to be the modern pro grade. Kdenlive also lacks GPU acceleration.

    So the next in close to prograde is Blender VSE at moment more focused for Computer Generated movies only recently did Blender get the overlay functionality required for mixed CGI and Human.

    Der Balrog where did editshare get the money to buy Lightworks. That right selling solutions that depend on the Linux kernel. So Linux part generated the money. So this is reinvestment of profits from Linux. In fact before editshare did this a few movie studios in blender mailing lists started talking about if it was worth fixing Blender VSE or if they should just bite the bullet and buy someone else out.

    Its not like everything in MS windows Microsoft made. Lot of things like the pinball game that they could not port forwards from XP Microsoft does not have the source code to.

    There is a reason why editshare is making sure Lightworks remains cross platform. Cross platform tools have better chance of being picked up inside movie studios.

    Commercial Enterprise Linux do you forget IBM Linux adds and other Linux support. Many companies are behind Linux Enterprise Usage. Redhat is commonly places as an example because of the fact its FOSS only.

    “Just as Google had to come in to make the Linux kernel a success in the form of Android;”
    Not exactly true. Before android there had been successes of phones running Linux. In fact before Android these held a bigger market share than Windows Mobile.

    The big thing Android has done is shattered the glass roof created my Microsoft and others saying GPL is a virus that will steal your IP. Phone makers have now worked out they sell hardware. Not software. So a little lost software IP does not mean much as long as there product works well.

    Der Balrog fragmentation will return to the phone market. Problem is this time there will not be many closed source makers left.

    There is a reason https://github.com/stskeeps/libhybris Allows normal Linux systems to use hardware built for Android.

    Der Balrog yes the stepping stone process.

    Just put it this way things are going to get messy.

  5. Der Balrog says:

    That phrase ‘only professional-level video editor for Linux’ is absurd. Linux has many professional video editors, one is even FLOSS, namely Cinelerra.

    Absurd? Why? Lightworks has the distinction that it has been indeed used professionally by “Hollywood” (“The King’s Speech” and so on). Cinelerra was used for what exactly? Despite all the things Cinelerra (supposedly) does I’d even rate something like Kdenlive higher as far as non-linear video editing goes. Most people parading Cinelerra have never actually used Cinelerra.

    Lightworks is the perfect example that once again a company with money behind it had to come in to save the day. Just as Google had to come in to make the Linux kernel a success in the form of Android; just as the not beloved anymore Canonical had to come in to bring meager success to Desktop Linux; just as Red Hat had to come in to make commercial Enterprise Linux a success.

  6. oiaohm says:

    Robert Pogson Avid and lightworks are the two top editors.

    Its going interesting to see how many more of the lower ones die off. A lot disappeared 2009-2010.

    MK editshare behind lightworks are the master of the super vague roadmap.

    Dig around on the lightworks web site you will find this.

    1) Release a free version of Lightworks
    2) Release a full version, which includes the extra professional codecs
    3) Release cross-platform versions of Lightworks for Mac OSX and Linux as well
    4) Release the source code

    MK I don’t think you could make a roadmap more vague if you tried. 1 and 2 are ticked off.

    From general from beta to release is 6 to 8 months with prior Windows versions of Lightworks. The Linux Alpha time took about the normal so I would not be surprised if this does not go down like normal.

  7. ram wrote, “Linux has many professional video editors, one is even FLOSS, namely Cinelerra.”

    I guess professional can argue about what constitutes “professional-level” but that’s good for GNU/Linux to have enough to have a competition. Both applications are written by folks who use the software for professional work but the features of Cinelerra are rather limited by the GPL as the software cannot contain many codecs used in professional work. On large works the rendering/format-conversion process is onerous so it would be advantageous to a professional to have more options.

    Heroinewarrior.com: “Cinelerra is intended to be useful and fast, representing the most used features from 15 years of editing, but not compare to the leading commercial editors. To get popular, it takes making sure every feature on the leading commercial white paper has a line item on your free version, regardless of usefulness or life span.”

    I think Lightworks is seen to compete with the leading commercial editors.

  8. MK wrote, “The article says a beta is imminent, and nothing about the final. Same as with Debian or Windows, you only see what you want to see.”

    ?

    The beta has been out for that other OS for some time. I expect there is a lot of common code between the two and a select number have been using the beta for GNU/Linux for months.

    “Before the end of the first quarter of 2013 we will be making the Linux version of Lightworks available as a Public Beta, the same as with the latest Windows Beta. A confirmed date will be announced once we finialise some more improvements.

    There is still a lot of work to be done primarily in finishing off the new licensing scheme which we will be trialling with the Linux Beta. If it proves successful, this same licensing will be rolled out to the Windows and Mac versions. More information will follow early next year as it becomes available.”
    see LWKS.COM

    Another notice said Q1 2013. So imminent is the right word. I expect it’s pretty smooth after having a few thousand using it since the alpha version has been tested on GNU/Linux since October 2012 and it was successful.

    Lightworks is not a new programme. It has been around for ages. These guys know what they want. This GNU/Linux version is just another new version for them like another release for that other OS. I expect the beta will be perfectly satisfactory for what most people do.

  9. MK says:

    The article says a beta is imminent, and nothing about the final. Same as with Debian or Windows, you only see what you want to see.

  10. ram says:

    That phrase “only professional-level video editor for Linux” is absurd. Linux has many professional video editors, one is even FLOSS, namely Cinelerra. Another FLOSS program with extensive video editing capabilities is Blender – although few people are aware of them and it is not a major thrust of the Blender project.

    Of course, their are also proprietary video editing packages for Linux and many studios have their own internal editing suites.

    Are any of them “easy to use”? Nope, probably never will be. The sheer number of features and options, existing and being added at a rapid rate, almost guarantees the user interface (UI) is going to be a bit rough.

Leave a Reply