Share Will Shrink to ~30% for That Other OS in a Few Years

It’s not often you see information from several opposing forces quoted in one article but the release of “8” has triggered that. Forrester tells us the share of personal computing devices running that other OS is in rapid decline. M$ is stagnant this year and most bets are that “8” on tablets won’t amount to much. Meanwhile the world is adopting Android/Linux on mobile thingies and GNU/Linux on lots of other PCs and the growth in unit shipments per annum is dramatic. Then Jeff Zemlin of the Linux Foundaton announces the “Post-PC” world is upon us and he’s writing about mobile gadgets. Of course, he’s right that with hundreds of millions using */Linux there’s no reason people cannot use GNU/Linux on PCs too. Then FSF gets in on the act to hand out pamphlets at a retail establishment…

“it’s easy to switch to free software instead of choosing a downgrade to your rights as a computer user — for example, your rights to know what the system is doing and to change behaviors you don’t like. We’re here because we want people to know that they don’t have to buy Windows 8 — this is a great time to upgrade to free ‘as in freedom’ software.”

see Windows 8 launch – Jim Zemlin and the Free Software Foundation have their say | Linux User.

While M$ is distracted by mobile and cloud, GNU/Linux on thick and thin clients is eating into M$’s base. Pretty soon, M$ will have to learn to fly on clouds or compete in the real world instead of hiding in the price of PCs. You just can’t hide that price in these small cheap computers and even desktops are becoming small and cheap.

Feature Trim-Slice Barebone Trim-Slice Value Trim-Slice Pro Trim-Slice H Diskless Trim-Slice H250
CPU NVIDIA Tegra 2 @ 1 GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 @ 1 GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 @ 1 GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 @ 1 GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 @ 1 GHz
RAM 1 GB DDR2-667 1 GB DDR2-667 1 GB DDR2-667 1 GB DDR2-667 1 GB DDR2-667
Storage not included Micro-SD 4 GB SATA SSD 32 GB Bay for 2.5″ SATA hard disk (not included) 250GB 2.5″ SATA hard disk
Display HDMI HDMI dual head HDMI + DVI dual head HDMI + DVI dual head HDMI + DVI
LAN GbE GbE GbE GbE GbE
WLAN not included WiFi 802.11n USB dongle Built-in 802.11n module
with external antenna
Built-in 802.11n module
with external antenna
Built-in 802.11n module
with external antenna
Bluetooth not included not included Bluetooth 2.0 USB dongle Bluetooth 2.0 USB dongle Bluetooth 2.0 USB dongle
Video-in not included not included PAL/NTSC PAL/NTSC PAL/NTSC
Specifications
Specifications
Specifications
Specifications
Specifications

MSRP

$213

+shipping, duty & VAT

$233

+shipping, duty & VAT

$325

+shipping, duty & VAT

$260

+shipping, duty & VAT

$338

+shipping, duty & VAT

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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10 Responses to Share Will Shrink to ~30% for That Other OS in a Few Years

  1. oiaohm says:

    MK LOL. You are incompetent twit right.

    –Similarly spec`ed machines with Ubuntu were 50$ more expensive the with Windows.–
    At the time it was 100 dollar more for a Dell machine with a clean install of Windows.

    Also you did not look up the price at the time of freedos with those machines. Yes this is insane. Freedos was just disc in box nothing install on hard drive. That was also 50 dollars more than Windows with crap-ware.

    http://www.dell.com/us/highered/p/vostro-2520/pd
    Identical spec machine today Windows 7 is 40 dollars more than taking the Ubuntu.

    MK
    –Dell quietly discontinued the project–
    They did not discontinue the project. The project was delayed due to technical issues.

    http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/w/wiki/2463.linux-projects.aspx
    Technical issue dkms did not exist as a mainline Ubuntu feature. Even that dell created it in 2003.

    There has not be just one Ubuntu innitiative from dell.
    http://content.dell.com/us/en/enterprise/d/campaigns/sputnik

    There has been a bit fighting between dell and Ubuntu. These days Ubuntu and dell seam to be more on the same page.

    So around 2007 Dell voice there displeasure with Ubuntu. Notice down the bottom of page the support you machine today if you pave it over with ubuntu.

    MK the reality is Linux people have no problems about paving over. Dell has worked out Linux people will not pay extra for machine without windows. Instead Linux person take machine with Windows and asks for refund as contract allows.

    So a Linux machine 50 dollars more expensive than windows will not sell. A Linux machine 40 dollars cheap than Windows you don’t have to process windows license payment refunds. So yes a Windows machine 50 dollars cheaper than the Linux machine ends up another block of cash cheaper after the Linux guy forces the refund to be handed over. Normally by contacting somewhere like the FSF and dropping a legal team on you.

    So any sane company today will offer Linux machines same price or slightly cheaper(safer slightly cheaper no legal teams to contend with).

  2. MK says:

    “Given the fact that Windows at any time had a very, very large selection of freeware available, I doubt that. You’d be a fool to not care about price in one way or another, even if it may (or can) not always be your first priority.”

    Well, I meant free as in freedom, of cause, but since you’ve mentioned the price, remember when Dell announced the Ubuntu innitiative in 2007? Similarly spec`ed machines with Ubuntu were 50$ more expensive the with Windows. So, putting Ubuntu on those machines wasn’t free for Dell, altimately, the few users that bought them payed extra, the demand was underwhelming, and Dell quietly discontinued the project. So, what does it tell us about the actual price of Linux? GNU/FSF/RMS/Debian/Linux that our kind host keeps recommending has been around since 1993 both as free and freeware, and yet, it remains a Linux distro for geeks.

    “And, more importantly, why can’t something that works also be something that happens to be free? You’re making it sound as if you always have to spend money to get something that works. But that’s simply not true for software.”

    Again, I was talking about free as freedom, but don’t you think Google spends money on Android, or Mozilla on Firefox, or Canonical on Ubuntu? Those are not evening hobby projects, you know.

  3. oiaohm says:

    http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/10/weve-located-the-reality-distortion-field-and-its-in-the-consumers-brain/
    I missed including link.

    The reality their is a problem. Human nature problem. A paradox Windows 8 is not solving. Linux and FOSS does not need to solve the paradox. Since Linux and FOSS is not trying to be a premium paid for product.

  4. oiaohm says:

    Lutz D. Meier there is a nice funny one. There is a study out there that the more a person understands about a product the more they will spend.

    So this is a double sided sword. Users want a OS that is simple to use. But lower there understanding the less they will pay for it. Yet the one that is simple to use hides more of the facts from the users more it costs to make.

    So we have a paradox.

  5. Lutz D. Meier says:

    Users don’t really care if the software they use is free or not.

    Given the fact that Windows at any time had a very, very large selection of freeware available, I doubt that. You’d be a fool to not care about price in one way or another, even if it may (or can) not always be your first priority.

    They’ll buy something that works, and, at best, be vaguely delighted by aspect the ideology, if the software happens to be free.

    Hardly. They’ll mostly buy what they know. And that’s often enough not the best choice. Certainly not when software is involved.

    And, more importantly, why can’t something that works also be something that happens to be free? You’re making it sound as if you always have to spend money to get something that works. But that’s simply not true for software.

    The same goes for wanting to know how the system works. Is Jim delusional or something?

    You know, nobody is forcing you to get to know how your system works. In any decent Linux distribution with a decently set-up desktop environment the guts of the system are hidden from you. But you can easily expose them. If you want. It’s your choice.

    Besides, but that’s only my personal opinion, the solution to ever more complexity in computing can not merely be to abstract it away behind ever more shine, regardless which OS we’re talking about. People should have at least a basic understanding how their devices work at a basic level. And by that I don’t mean that they know how to turn them on and use them. Seems like a job for education, but, alas, IT education is lacking nearly everywhere.

  6. dougman says:

    Re: Users don’t really care if the software they use is free or not.

    Eh? So people rather spend thousands of dollars more, when they can get the very same thing for less?

    I’ve been told repeatedly, that people and businesses need Windows. I always retort with, “Perhaps for your car or house, but computing? Heck no..”

    Re; They’ll buy something that works. Yes, this is why people use Linux world-wide, with Android being the lead in the pack.

    Besides, in four years Windows will be overtaken and will be completely irrelevant, left to fade away.

    http://www.lifeofandroid.com/news_detail/android-to-smash-windows-in-2016/

  7. kozmcrae says:

    “Users don’t really care if the software they use is free or not. They’ll buy something that works, and, at best, be vaguely delighted by aspect the ideology, if the software happens to be free.”

    This is what the Cult of Microsoft clowns tell themselves every day. What they failed to notice is that Microsoft is producing products that, in their former customers’ minds; don’t work 100%; are ugly to look at; are clumsy/confusing to use; or all three.

  8. MK says:

    Indeed, I meant to say ‘eat into M$’s base’, as it doesn’t compete with stuff Windows runs on.

  9. MK wrote, “Trim-Slice is nice, thought a bit on the pricey side for what it offers. It’s definitely not in any danger of replacing Windows though.”

    Uh… Trim-Slice is hardware, not software. It cannot run any version of M$’s OS as far as I know because it has an ARM processor. So, stating it cannot replace that other OS makes no sense at all.

    OTOH, Trim-Slice runs GNU/Linux very well and it is selling. If you want to run that other OS on something like that, try the Intense PC but it is very pricey and that other OS will cost $157 more.

  10. MK says:

    Users don’t really care if the software they use is free or not. They’ll buy something that works, and, at best, be vaguely delighted by aspect the ideology, if the software happens to be free. The same goes for wanting to know how the system works. Is Jim delusional or something?

    Trim-Slice is nice, thought a bit on the pricey side for what it offers. It’s definitely not in any danger of replacing Windows though.

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