What Large Brazilian Organizations Thinks of GNU/Linux

A large retail chain, Casas Bahia, with 53K employees and $billions in revenue (2008) ran Suse GNU/Linux on mainframes and POS (point-of-sale) systems with zero failures in five years giving real-time information on every transaction with security.

Police, government offices, and schools in Brazil all find GNU/Linux usable, reliable and cost-effective. What about you? Are you getting the best performance for expenditures on IT? In Canada, I switched to GNU/Linux years ago because I was not getting good performance. Machines were slow, crashing, and interrupting our work. We switched to GNU/Linux and have had few problems since. We got better performance on identical hardware. We were allowed by the licence for GNU/Linux, mostly GPL, to run the code and make as many copies/installations as we wanted all for $0. That other OS limited us to connecting 10 machines on a network, phoning home, recording “certificates of authenticity” and other awful procedures wasting our precious time. Effort required to use the system and to maintain it fell sharply and we made much better use of our existing hardware. It’s all good.

If you wish to try GNU/Linux, I recommend Debian GNU/Linux. It’s been around a long time, has millions of users, and a reliable method of updating the operating system and the applications.

see Google’s English translation of http://fernandogr.com.br/blog/?p=6510 at Linux in Brazil

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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23 Responses to What Large Brazilian Organizations Thinks of GNU/Linux

  1. Choperro says:

    I also think that Microchoff and Apple suck

  2. Tar says:

    Notice that US army Drones are Linux powered now?

    I am glad I do not write code for Linux. That would be giving my time and code FOR FREE to help drones kill people. No thank you.

  3. Clarence Moon wrote, “It is rather obvious that corporation and business are synonymous”.

    Nonsense, a corporation is a legal person in law, created to allow individuals to cooperate and avoid liability for the whole organization. A corporation can be formed for a church or a business or a social group.

  4. Clarence Moon says:

    More useless hair-splitting, Mr. Pogson. Perhaps a more correct statement would be that “businesses exist …” given the clear context of the post. It is rather obvious that corporation and business are synonymous for most conversations, though, particularly this one.

  5. Phenom wrote, “companies exist for the sole purpose of making profit, and the tools involved do not matter, as long as they stay within the law.”

    Making profit may be one motive for companies to exist but certainly not the only one or companies would not survive the first few dry years. In USA, for instance, a company can be created to limit the liability of individuals to practice their art so legal protection, not profit, may be of prime importance. Even the Free Software Foundation may be considered a company in its behaviours yet it is not intended to make a profit. Revenue covers expenses. Many businesses start small as sole proprietorships and evolve to become corporations for many other reasons than to make profit. Bringing in more/new capital, bringing in more people, diversification geographically and of products may also be rationales for forming a corporation.

  6. kozmcrae says:

    Phenom, what’s your problem with the spam filter? I get hit with it all the time. Just wait. Robert goes through his spam and picks out all the real comments. It just takes a little time. Have a little patience man.

  7. Chris Weig says:

    “Brazil” is a good movie. GNU/Linux in Brazil is a joke.

  8. Phenom says:

    Spam filter in action.

  9. Phenom says:

    Swift wrote: “In your first post you call Linux users “leftists” which is absurd, and in your second post you seem to be allergic to commercial profits.”

    Mr Swift, I’d recommend you go back to your school teacher and ask for a compensation for your poorly developed reading skills.

    I really beats me how you deducted that I call “linux users” any names in my original post. I merely contemplate on leftists in the world, who do wait for some revolution to spawn in some developing country, knowing deep inside that revolution in developed countries will never happen.

    In my second post I made a desparate attempt to explain what is obvious to any rational human being – companies exist for the sole purpose of making profit, and the tools involved do not matter, as long as they stay within the law. The fact that IBM uses Linux does not make them a leftists. Simply because it is not possible for a company to be left.

    Again, I humbly urge you to demand a compensation from your teachers for the wretched job the did with you.

  10. Mats Hagglund says:

    3 million Linux-pc’s, the figure given by Linux Foundation, but what’s that year?

  11. Thanks for the information. It’s so hard to figure things out with Google translate used to generate searches…

  12. oiaohm says:

    Phenom the current issue is silver spoons vs steel spoons vs plastic spoons. They all allow you to eat food.

    Now a business could give there clients all silver spoons but have a high cost. All the could go with cheaper steel spoons or throw away plastic spoons.

    The places doing silver spoons end up the smaller end of the market. Cafe vs Restaurant classic example. More people eat at Cafe and Conner stores than Restaurants.

    Basically Phenom this is not communism but capitalism at work. Capitalism does punish the rich Capitalist when they get to far out of alignment on there price of product to the common man.

    Developing countries just happen to have the bigger percentage of the capital poor. So in Capitalism they are the first areas to show over charging compared to a competitor and the competitor has the best chance of getting a foot hold there.

    Phenom simple fact of the matter you don’t understand how Capitalism works to understand that anyone watching Capitalism watching third world countries and poor sections of development countries for clues of future problems.

    In capitalism the rich capitalist does not have to be overthrow if they can keep on meeting the price requirement. Microsoft taking on debt is not setting themselves up to ride out the storm.

  13. swift11 says:

    @Phenom My links show that every tech company in the world has a strategy based on Linux. Red Hat is a Linux pure play and they make good profits, indeed. In your first post you call Linux users “leftists” which is absurd, and in your second post you seem to be allergic to commercial profits. My conclusion: you are clueless.

  14. Phenom says:

    @Swift11, these companies are all commercial ones. They abuse Linux and “freedom” for their commercial profit.

    @Mats, I am sorry to disappoint you, but you absolutely misunderstand.

    I will try to explain my metaphor again for the sake of discussion, but you can really do better next time by reading some modern history. No, Discovery Channel is not enought.

    The whole idea of the Solviet revolution was the poor working class would overthrow the rich capitalists. During all the years of communisn, the ideology was that capitalism is evil, earning profit is evil, people should be equal, no one shall be richer, and no one poorer.

    Therefore your analogy with Stalin and MS is a priori wrong.

  15. oiaohm says:

    Yep in the PC market we have no market share numbers work a cracker by statistical standards.

    Mobile phone market is difference due to the fact they connect to carriers and carriers have a pretty good idea what is in there networks. Carriers even detect if you have installed a third party firmware or not.

  16. Matts Haglund wrote, “Is there any relatively reliable numbers of pc-computers in Brazil? “

    Not as far as I know. There are statistics showing people online and the like but PCs tend to die and be repaired or not rather randomly. The count of PCs in homes is probably much higher than the number of working PCs in homes. In my own home, we kept a stack (literally) of old PCs for years to canibalize for parts to add NICs, replace hard drives and PSUs etc. How would one count that?

    The best numbers are units shipped. Once units leave the factory what happens is random. The trolls, for instance, will both claim that in USA very few use GNU/Linux because GNU/Linux is not bundled with retail PCs because consumers in USA are not computer geeks and in Brazil very few use GNU/Linux because retail PCs come with GNU/Linux quite often yet Brazilians are geeky and many replace GNU/Linux with that other OS. They don’t see the contradiction… 😉 I would bet there are a lot of computer geeks in both countries.

    Web stats should be a good way of counting PCs assuming most do not change the User-Agent strings, but the people who have the data do not publish it. Google could do us all a favour by publishing their stats… They used to do that until they found they could sell the stats. ISPs probably could tell us as well.

  17. Phenom wrote, “It is charming how leftists always wait for the revolution to come from the developing countries.”

    I would say the following examples shoot down Phenom’s suggestion:

    • Linux, while started in Finland, a small developed country, has been promoted most heavily by USA wherein are found major distros: Debian, RedHat, and Slackware, many mirrors at businesses and universities, The Linux Foundation, and particular sponsors such as IBM.
    • Google and FaceBook, both iconic entities on the web depend heavily on GNU/Linux on the server as do almost all large organizations.
    • Dell, an OEM and retailer from USA cooperates with Canonical to ship and sell millions of GNU/Linux PCs annually. They may be the top one or two sources of GNU/Linux PCs.
    • Releases of small cheap computers are snapped up in USA as well as anywhere and */Linux is popular in USA on those machines.
    • Brazil and Russia are developed countries and produce and consume many GNU/Linux systems. Same goes for France, Germany and UK.

    In short, FLOSS, GNU/Linux and Android/Linux are global phenomenae and suitable and popular in every part of the world where people appreciate good IT. The USA does have a sickness when it comes to FLOSS, as does Canada and some other developed nations, that it is still tolerated in a supposedly free market that FLOSS is somehow considered unacceptable by retailers generally. M$ has protected its core markets by massive programmes of disinformation over decades and the trolls on my blog are symptoms of that. There are new waves of FUD every time new developments in the market threaten the monopoly. e.g. Dell GNU/Linux PCs, ASUS eeePC running GNU/Linux, Android/Linux, and small cheap computers… All of these have global utility and make the world a better place and are snapped up by consumers yet the trolls never miss an opportunity to show how unworthy these new developments are. The trolls and the monopoly they protect cannot abide a free market wherein */Linux can thrive.

  18. Mats Hagglund says:

    What really funny is that it’s Microsoft which is really nearer to former USSR of Stalin than Linux. Or are you really so stupid that you declare Stalin’s wonderland and Microsoft as best examples of open mind, open standard ecosystems. 🙂

  19. Phenom says:

    It is charming how leftists always wait for the revolution to come from the developing countries. Ladies and gentlemen leftists, please study history. Learn from the spectacular failure of USSR and the ex-socialist block in Eastern Europe.

    The English say: “I am not rich enough to buy cheap” for a reason.

  20. Mats Hagglund says:

    Is there any relatively reliable numbers of pc-computers in Brazil? Wikipedia is claiming some 68 Brazilians using internet. Then there is 228 million people in US using internet but 20% of world pc’s – some 280 million. Is there really 50 million more pc’s than people using internet? And are there less pc’s in Brazil than people using internet?

    If there is 50 million pc’s in Brazin and 3 million of them with Linux then Linux market share is 6%.

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