Barnes & Noble Beat M$

M$ sued B&N over use of Linux on e-book readers and B&N kicked butt. Rather than lose, M$ decided to pay B&N to leave them alone, while calling the payment, “an investment”. Unfortunately, B&N gave up some control over their company and will have the burden of trying to sell that other OS on tablets, but every cloud has a silver lining. B&N should be profitable this year… Last quarter, B&N reported an $11million loss.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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17 Responses to Barnes & Noble Beat M$

  1. twitter wrote, “B&N will go the way Nokia went if they do what Microsoft asks. The deal is a loss.”

    I am not so sure. B&N was in trouble financially before the suit. M$ is actually paying B&N, so this could be a win for them. It will probably cost far less than $300million to make one tablet running “8”. I don’t see anything that prevents B&N from running a profitable business.

  2. twitter says:

    A Vista 8 Nook is a non starter. B&N will go the way Nokia went if they do what Microsoft asks. The deal is a loss. The case is another example of Microsoft’s judicial extortion.

    These cases won’t save Microsoft. Nothing they control really prospers. The latest news is that Vista 8 will block Mozilla. That’s going to go over like a lead balloon.

  3. Phenom says:

    But you are not desperate to find one.

    I guess so. But Pogson is now conveniently shifting the conversation to another direction, to avoid further embarassment. 🙂

  4. I did teach at a school where a couple of years before a witch hunt for a teacher eventually resulted in him committing suicide. All charges were dropped but the school would not rehire the guy… Apparently, he was suspected of being naughty by using other than IE… I avoided IE myself by using FireFox.

    In my situation, the machines had been refurbished with a fresh installation donated by M$ and the software was pristine. I did some searching, and the particular build was apparently cursed… Our Internet connection was dial-up so I don’t think any inappropriate use of the Internet would have been tolerated. Everything happened in slow motion so teachers could easily catch what was happening. I usually provided students an index.html to work from so they had specific sites to visit. I did not monitor very closely, but I saw no sign of malware. The machines did not appear to slow down but just stopped every now and then. They just purred with GNU/Linux.

  5. gewg_ says:

    One more post into the void.

  6. gewg_ says:

    I had a cluster of Lose ’95 machines that would not run flawlessly for one hour at a time

    You lucked out. You might have been subjected to the same stupidity as Julie Amero.
    The Lose98 box that the SUBSTITUTE teacher was using had some porn pop up while she was using it in front of students.
    The shovelware anti-whatever app that shipped with the box had never been paid for / updated.
    NB – Computer experts have said that they believe those “protection” apps actually hijacked the browser and caused all the problems.
    I know you are aware that Windoze didn’t ship with a software fireware until XP SP1 and that M$ didn’t activate that by default until SP2.

    The prosecution’s “computer forensics expert” was a beat cop who was either massively incompetent or was simply a liar (perhaps both). Regarding the software he used to arrive at his conclusions, its vendor said that the product was not capable of doing what the cop claimed.

    The stupid jury (Hey, they -were- Americans) convicted her of 4 counts of risk of injury to a minor, or impairing the morals of a child. (The conviction was vacated on appeal.)
    In the end, she had to forfeit her teaching credentials.

    I also like how her name is mentioned in the Not safe for work article.

  7. Clarence Moon says:

    I see no loss for Microsoft

    But you are not desperate to find one.

  8. Clarence Moon says:

    Just replace Romans with Microsoft, and you get the idea.

    And you failed to mention that it comes pre-loaded in just about every computer that is not made by Apple at no additional charge!

    All this nonsense about how Mr. Pogson was unable to get his Win95 machine working in 2000 aside, there is nothing to be gained by switching away from Windows today. The time has long past for anyone to be actively seeking alternative sources of supply.

  9. Phenom says:

    I see no loss for Microsoft. I only see a strategic investment. Welcome Nook 8 (Windows RT behind). One competitor less, one ally more. This is a clean win.

  10. Viktor wrote, “what has Microsoft ever done for us, except offering an operating system that just works and needs no duct tape”.

    In 2000, the only reason I turned to GNU/Linux was that I had a cluster of Lose ’95 machines that would not run flawlessly for one hour at a time. They were solid machines with Pentium Pro CPUs and 72MB RAM. I wanted them to be like a teacher’s aid, facilitating learning experiences while I did my thing with the rest of the class in a multigrade/multilevel classroom. They were driving me nuts because one of them would stop every class and teenagers in those days had no patience for re-re-reboots. I downloaded a CD of Caldera GNU/Linux over a ten day period (dial-up) and had no problems from any of those machines over the next six months. I saw similar performance from Lose ’98 and XP in several other schools later and in all cases GNU/Linux ran flawlessly for us.

    What M$ gave us for decades was crap which they forced down people’s throats by leveraging the monopoly IBM gave them so long ago. Governments around the world contributed to the disaster of the Wintel monopoly by not treating M$ like the criminal organization they are.

  11. Viktor says:

    No, no, if it’s Monty Python, it has to be:

    What have the Romans ever done for us?

    Just replace Romans with Microsoft, and you get the idea.

    Yes, clearly, what has Microsoft ever done for us, except offering an operating system that just works and needs no duct tape, creating an ecosystem where there are more applications available than in all Loonix distributions combined?

    The Microsoft-hating Cult of Loonix has nothing left, as usual.

  12. Clarence Moon says:

    this is clearly the year of linux desktop

    I’m sorry. I forgot. I apologize for my lapse of memory. I am getting old and may have to retire soon.

    comparable to the street racing rich merchants who rode on top the shoulders of exhausted commoners while beating them to go faster

    Heavens, Mr. Kozbear, you must truly hate your lot in life. Do they really beat you or do you just fear that they will?

  13. lpbbear says:

    “I am sure that I will not be the last, and probably not even the first, to point out the similarity to Monty Python’s Black Knight sketch and this sort of position on the part of the Linux advocates.”

    Nah, you’re probably the only one. Monty Python was never a big fan of aristocracy, oligarchs, the bourgeoisie and other pompous rich bastards. Were Monty Python still active today I’m sure they would be lampooning Microsoft and its megalomaniac bosses along with all the rest of the rotten rich they used to spear.

    If anything you and your Cult Of Microsoft ilk are comparable to the street racing rich merchants who rode on top the shoulders of exhausted commoners while beating them to go faster.

    Yeah, you “get” Monty Python alright.

  14. Ivan says:

    Sorry Clarence, this is clearly the year of linux desktop.

  15. Clarence Moon says:

    I am sure that I will not be the last, and probably not even the first, to point out the similarity to Monty Python’s Black Knight sketch and this sort of position on the part of the Linux advocates.

  16. Time will tell but B&N has not lost control of its board. This is fresh capital for a struggling company. I think they did well. “Winning” the case may well have bankrupted B&N. It’s not at all like Nokia. Samsung is alive and well, too.

  17. lpbbear says:

    Sorry Pog. I usually agree with you but…..

    “Rather than lose, M$ decided to pay B&N to leave them alone”

    As a longtime Microsoft watcher they did not “lose”. In fact they won.

    This is nothing more than the same old tired story of a ruthless monopolist gone rabid. This same basic scenario has been repeated over and over and over with many similar court cases over the years.

    In this one Microsoft threatened B&N with the same old bullshit patent threats. The same thing was done to Xandros, Samsung, HTC, etc. etc. These lawsuit threats were used to arm twist their way into another market. The cost to Microsoft? $300 million. This so called “settlement” is just more of the same ol crap and yet another glaring example of why a scumbag company like Microsoft should be broken up by government intervention.

    What we will likely see in the near future as a result is the unveiling of the “new” Barnes and Noble/Newco/Microsoft ebook reader based on…..wait for it……Windows8 blah blah blah ebook tablet shitware while the better Linux nook version slowly slides into obilvion. And on it goes with Microsoft invading one market sector after another, the ebook/book publishing space this time. Who knows where the monopoly will rampage and pillage next? Apparently anywhere its megalomaniac bosses think they can.

    This is a loss for B&N who will eventually follow the path to obscurity along with all the other fools who have settled with/partnered with Microsoft. This is also a HUGE loss for consumers who have lost yet another vibrant consumer choice due to an illegal ruthless monopoly being allowed to dominate the tech sector. It will take a little time, Microsoft doesn’t want it to be too obvious to government regulators….but, eventually… Barnes and Noble will cease to exist along with all their cool Linux devices.

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