Swiss Supremes Re-invent Catch-22

Catch-22 was a work of fiction about a guy who could not win because there were rules against that.

Now the Swiss Supreme Court has ruled that the lower court erred by not allowing FLOSS providers to object to giving M$ a sweet deal but also found that the FLOSS providers had not provided any evidence that they could meet the requirements of the purchaser (the Swiss government). The Supremes did not accept that no proof could be provided because there were no specifications… Catch-22. You can’t win in that court. Obviously the judges have been living in a cave somewhere for 20 years. Perhaps they have never heard of Munich or Extramedura. I find it tragic that supposedly wise people could make such a silly ruling.

see H-online

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11 Responses to Swiss Supremes Re-invent Catch-22

  1. In that article, Florian was writing about their whole system architecture not just OS and applications. Munich had an IT unit of business in each of a dozen departments which was inefficient before the migration and was found to be inefficient during the migration and was changed along with the migration, slowing things down. Whether they used that other OS or GNU/Linux they would have had more than the OS and applications to change.
    “Previously, around 1,000 staff had been maintaining the 15,000 PCs making up the Munich computing landscape in 21 independent IT centres. There was, according to Schießl, no common directory, no common user management, no common hardware or software management. There were more than 300 applications in use, many of which did the same job. On the desktop side, there were 21 different Windows systems with different update levels and security settings.”

    “After the difficulties with the first wave of migrations, in 2007 the LiMux administrative team agreed on a new strategy. This involved implementing pilot projects in all departments to convert at least ten percent of existing PCs to the basic LiMux client in order to assess the degree of heterogeneity of the existing organic IT landscape. The city council decided at the same time to comprehensively reorganise its entire computer infrastructure in line with LiMux’ “Quality over time” motto.

    Since the end of last year, test runs have, says Schießl, shown that the Linux client can be fully integrated into these heterogeneous environments. According to Schießl, the pilot projects have been successfully concluded.”

  2. Yonah says:

    “It (Munich Linux migration) may take the reward for the longest migration in history but the decision was carefully researched and choices were made with lots of information.”

    It would seem that Florian Schießl, deputy head of Munich’s LiMux project, disagrees with you:

    http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/LiMux-project-management-We-were-naive-958824.html

  3. Brent says:

    John Bilderback said”
    “Smart move since OSS simply fails every time. It’s due to the lack of a business model. Money drives innovation. That’s why OSS isn’t used for anything other than some hobbyist pet project.”

    That’s true unless you count the entire internet I suppose. That’s one Hell of a pet project.

  4. Chuckle. Reminds me of a school where I set up a private LAN in my classroom. The teacher next door approached me saying the kids had demanded similar access in that classroom. I found a crevice beside a hot-water pipe and passed the LAN to the next room where several PCs decomissioned from the computer lab the year before were installed. These two classes had no longer any need to visit the computer lab and the other classrooms had easier access to the lab. That’s where my Beast started as an Athlon64 1.8gHz machine.It served a virtual desktop of GNU/Linux to the old machines as thin clients. There were good times and bad times that year but the LAN leaking through the wall was one of the good times. We had so many graduates that VIPs from all around came to visit. In the second semester everyone got down to work and got a lot done. That expanded LAN made a difference for the kids had local search, a local copy of Wikipedia and lots of material relevant to the courses that I downloaded nights and weekends to put on the server. The rest of the school ran XP and was messed up when M$ pushed through SP2. I gave a presentation to all the other computer teachers in the division. It was probably the second hardest year of work I had as a teacher but one of the most rewarding.

  5. oe says:

    If OSS is such a failure why are a lot of coworkers where I am now at spurning the issued machines with Win Vista and Vista 7 spurning such and buying new Macs AND resurrecting “worthless” old carcasses of PC’s with GNU/Linux, furthermore, running an air-gaped dark-net (raised floors and drop ceilings are awesome in some ways) to hook them together off of the “official” LAN. Seems additional money and sweat equity states that OSS IS needed and that other OS and its app do not make the grade….One thing many of us do like is that ODF (ODT, ODS, ODP, ODB) files do not seem to prime virus culture media the way PPT/PPTX, XLS/XLSX, and DOC/DOCX are.

  6. Richard Chapman says:

    That’s funny. Invent your own reality when the real one doesn’t fit your agenda. I love the Munich story. The Microsoft devoted want it to fail so bad they just pretend it did. Problem solved.

  7. Nope. They have everyone using FLOSS apps now and about half the departments are running GNU/Linux underneath. Some GNU/Linux is running in every department. They don’t have to fund the migration any longer because the original allocation has not been spent. Costs have been less than expected.

  8. John Bilderback says:

    Munich was a failure, Vienna was a failure. They’ve all stopped the process and are no longer funding it.

    The experiment is finished and everyone is the wiser.

  9. Munich is grinding on. GNU/Linux is working for them. It may take the reward for the longest migration in history but the decision was carefully researched and choices were made with lots of information.

  10. John Bilderback says:

    “Perhaps they have never heard of Munich”

    They did hear and realized they’d learn from Munich’s mistakes of ever thinking OSS could ever compete and deliver on the same level as commercial software.

    Smart move since OSS simply fails every time. It’s due to the lack of a business model. Money drives innovation. That’s why OSS isn’t used for anything other than some hobbyist pet project.

  11. Bender says:

    This decision will bite them sooner or later. The bad thing is that it is only the Swiss government that has to loose and not M$…

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