Libya: Sobering Up

It has been a turbulent few weeks in Libya with the revolution seeming nearly to be crushed by Gaddafi until the world took over the airspace. Out of chaos has come a lot of progress but militarily, the revolutionaries are weak and disorganized. They do seem to persist and to adapt but at great cost in lives. The world should send them arms and training if they are to displace Gaddafi’s regime efficiently.

On the other side, Gaddafi is sacrificing a lot of volunteers and conscripts in fighting in the streets and losing the cream to air-power. His forces seem to be slaughtering non-combatants and preventing operation of hospitals. There is now no doubt about the eventual outcome but he persists in tolerating huge rates of casualties. It is clear that murder does not bring him loyalty and his military strength is being eroded daily. It is only a matter of time before the sieges of Misrata and Ajdabia are lifted and the revolutionaries close in on Tripoli. There will be no winter to save Gaddafi.

This clip from YouTube gives a frank analysis of the situation and the solution:

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4 Responses to Libya: Sobering Up

  1. Well, it’s a question of the greatest good for the greatest number. It seems to me that if the citizens of most of the cities in the country are willing to stand up to the thugs, we should help them. The allies seem to be taking great care to avoid collateral damage by only attacking ground forces clearly aggressive to the cities, i.e. shelling residential areas, hospitals and the like. They cannot do much more without unaccepatble casualties. That should be enough to settle the matter given some further armament and organization.

    Whether we should get involved at all is a moral question. We cannot tell the future. Perhaps Gaddafi was going to go peacefully but by his own words he was going to scorch the earth. That would have caused many thousands of casualties. Even if our consciences were not offended by that, it does us good to have the future goodwill of Libyans.

  2. Linux Apostate says:

    No, my actual objection is beginning a military offensive against a country which never did anything to us, purely on the grounds that we don’t like its domestic policies.

    As to “suppressing peaceful protest with all kinds of thuggery”, that’s been Gaddafi’s mode of operation for the past 40 years, and we’ve sat by and been completely fine with it. Same for his neighbours, like Mugabe – a thug if ever there was one.

    Now I’m no pacifist and I know full well that a military is needed and during any significant operation it is going to kill people who shouldn’t have been killed, i.e. collateral damage. This is exactly why the military should only be used defensively, because that is the only case where those dead people can be in any way acceptable. The collateral damage is our fault, and by “our” I mean all Western supporters of this particular war, which does not include me.

  3. uhhh…. This started with Gaddafi suppressing peaceful protest with all kinds of thuggery.

    He has killed thousands of peaceful people and you object to some collateral damage when we bomb tanks shelling cities???

    Get real.

  4. Linux Apostate says:

    We have no business complaining about Gaddafi’s “murder” and “slaughter” when that is exactly what we called for when we demanded Western intervention. “Losing the cream to air-power.” That would be us. Everyone who blogged or Tweeted in support of intervention is partly to blame for what has happened.

    And if you were Gaddafi, would you just surrender because several foreign countries decided to invade? Or would you fight tooth and nail, to the bitter end, knowing that any surrender would mean certain destruction? A show trial followed by a Youtube execution at the hands of “rebels” who inevitably turn out to be no different from the Gaddafi regime, so that in twenty years’ time we can suddenly take a spontaneous dislike to their domestic policies and repeat this whole sorry charade again.

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