WebOS on Every PC Says Apotheker of HP

I was quite impressed by HP’s announcement of WebOS and now there is an article on BusinessWeek outlining more of the strategy. Apotheker says HP is done the cost-cutting. The largest/highest-volume OEM in the world is going to put WebOS on every PC. The task remaining is to generate software for it. HP is down hundreds of thousands of applications compared to Android and iOS.

HP sells lots of PCs. If they can generate software somehow for WebOS, they will have a platform just like Wintel/Apple. Competition is good. I like it. WebOS is a non-free OS built on Linux. We shall see how that model competes with those other OS. Having an OEM pushing Linux globally instead of regionally as Dell does will be a welcome change. IMHO this will do a lot to keep Linux on the radar for many OEMs. I would bet that smaller OEMs will find it easier to push GNU/Linux directly rather than compete with HP by making their own proprietary OS.

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17 Responses to WebOS on Every PC Says Apotheker of HP

  1. Richard Chapman says:

    It’s nice to hear HP putting WebOS on all their desktop computers. I can understand that for some people it’s easy to get distracted and start arguments over GNU/Linux and Linux security and such.

    This move by HP is just one of the many small steps being taken to move from a system that is primarily a monopoly to one that is primarily open. We can expect many more developments like this one to be happening in the near future. Don’t waste your time responding with false bravado and links to PR FUD, just wait.

  2. Richard Chapman says:

    The OpenGL screensavers are beautiful (would have been a big hit back in the 60s) but they kind of defeat the purpose because they chew up so much CPU cycles. I found ASCIIaquarium and it’s great. It creates an aquarium of fish made of entirely of ASCII characters so it uses almost nothing of the CPU.

  3. lpbbear says:

    “What are you talking about? Dell was attempting to sell Ubuntu systems worldwide (North America, Europe, Asia) and that attempt crashed and burned due to no one wanting to purchase a PC without Microsoft Windows.”

    Hmmmm……(checks the laptop I am using)….yep, that say Dell and I do remember buying it directly from Dell ……with Ubuntu preloaded.

    (well there is another bigoted BSer hitting the windshield and answering the age old question “What was the last thing that went through the MS droid bigots mind when he hit the windshield?”)

  4. Linux is on super-computers, servers, all manner of PCs and smart-thingies. It can be customized to fit the task.

  5. Ray says:

    I don’t have a good feeling putting a mobile OS in a desktop. O_O

  6. tastatur says:

    @Dann

    Are you seriously building your argument on a 15 year old version? (NT4)

    Try to find a “fancy” screensaver in Server 2003..

    And Pogs, that last link of yours:

    Here is the whole story:

    http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/mass-sql-injection-attack-hits-sites-running-iis-061010

    ——

    “Microsoft’s Jerry Bryant told Bob McMillan of the IDG News Service that the attack doesn’t exploit any vulnerability in IIS, but instead is an attack against third-party Web applications.

    “The SQL injection attacks that allow the systems to be compromised are occurring due to vulnerabilities in third-party web applications and do not demonstrate vulnerabilities in Microsoft software,” Bryant told McMillan.”

    —–

    I can vividly remember this. It was a SQL INJECTION bug in some asp.net CMS software products (third party).

    And before you try to make something out of it: asp.net has methods to sanitize the input, it was a failure of the CMS developers not to use them.

    Guys seriously. More effort please.

  7. Dann says:

    This might have been Windows Server 2000 or 2003, but some idiot had the great idea of including Hardware-Accelerated SCREENSAVERS on their SERVER PLATFORM and IT admin were wondering why cpu processes were at 99% every 10-15 minutes.

    So they had to manually disable them.

    “Take Care with your Screensaver Choice

    If you like to use screensavers, carefully decide which screensaver you wish to use on a server computer. Some of the fancier screensavers, such as the OpenGL screensavers, use a high percentage of CPU time, slowing down your running services. Stick with simple screensavers or use none at all for servers.”
    http://www.techiwarehouse.com/cat/44/Windows-NT

    Whereas GNU/Linux actually as a screensaver that BENEFITS servers.

    http://www.roaksoax.com/2011/03/powernap-improvements-for-natty

    It’s as simple as night and day.
    Microsoft lost the ability to innovate long ago.

  8. No I guess not. (Heavy sarcasm)

    see “One in Nine IIS Servers Compromised, Survey Says”

    That was back in 2001 when worms were rampant. Probably 2000 server product.

    see “Why are so many Windows Servers compromised?”

    That’s from 2009 when 2003 was prevalent.

    see “Microsoft’s IIS server compromised again”

    That’s from 2010. “The large scheme appears to have affected websites running a banner-ads module on top of IIS serverd using Microsoft’s ASP.net technology, said David Dede, head of malware research at Sucuri, a website monitoring company in the U.K.”

    I’ve only worked with a few 2000 and 2003 servers and never seen one compromised but there have been many sleepless nights while I sweated the timing of patches. M$ releases patches at a convenient hour in Redmond, WA, when much of the world needs production from servers.

  9. There is not much information about the vulnerability that was exploited. That list has leaked like a sieve for years so it might have been something as trivial as an inside job or weak password. It seems the manager of the list was not even particularly interested in persuing the matter but just wanted to shut it down. That tells me he might have been part of the problem.

    Of the many servers running GNU/Linux, very few are compromised. Can’t say that about the fewer web servers running that other OS. That’s one of the reasons 60% or so of active sites run GNU/Linux.

  10. Oh Dear says:

    Wouldn’t have happened on IIS running Microsoft Windows.

  11. Oh Dear says:

    Oops:

    http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Linux-Security-Mailing-List-Infiltrated-Crippled-by-Hackers-755855/?kc=rss

    Guess Linux isn’t as secure for server side as FOSStites make it out to be.

    :O

  12. I read every comment and approve or trash it. I mostly accept reasonable comments but my patience wears out sometimes and I ban the annoyance.

  13. Amen. I predict by 2012 that same phenomenon will occur in tablets and netbooks. The market wants choice. To any who claim that the market demands a single OS/supplier, I say, “Wake UP!“. We do not welcome monopoly in other markets unless it is in the public good (roads, etc.). We do not welcome it in IT. The monopolists have spread the myth that M$ is the one true way and some have swallowed that. They may ignore surveys/statistics but we can ignore the fanbois, too.

  14. There have been times that Dell did not advertise more than one or two models. That’s no pushing. At the same time as Dell was hiding GNU/Linux on its main site, it was pushing more models and higher volumes in other markets. They did not appear to be responding to customers wishes in this, but M$’s. There is a market for GNU/Linux in USA but Dell is not going after it aggressively.

  15. Oh Dear says:

    You filtering now?

  16. Anon Delivers says:

    BTW Pogson, here’s a freebie for you:

    http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2011/3/comScore_Reports_January_2011_U.S._Mobile_Subscriber_Market_Share

    Android is overtaking phone sales in the US. Lavish over that.

    Also, notice it’s a reference based on an independent body that has gathered statistics.

  17. Anon Delivers says:

    Having an OEM pushing Linux globally instead of regionally as Dell does will be a welcome change.

    What are you talking about? Dell was attempting to sell Ubuntu systems worldwide (North America, Europe, Asia) and that attempt crashed and burned due to no one wanting to purchase a PC without Microsoft Windows.

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