Amen!

“Québec is the first Canadian province to adopt a ZEV mandate. As of today, close to half the Canadian ZEV fleet is located in Québec.
 
The National Assembly unanimously adopted the Act last October, and it came into force this month. The automakers subject to it must accumulate credits by selling zero-emission vehicles (ZEVs) or low-emission vehicles (LEVs) on the Québec market. The credit target is calculated by applying a percentage to the total number of light-duty vehicles that each automaker sells in Québec.”
 
See Québec issues final regulations for ZEV mandate
Amen! It’s hard to disagree with a regional government giving automakers a little nudge. They are going to issue credits for each EV sold according to its range and require each automaker to reach some level of credit or face a fine. Automakers can trade credits.

Such a tactic won’t affect the final share of EVs out there but it will accelerate the shift in technology. I like it. It’s gradual and not painful. All they have to do is sell the cars they’re making. Perhaps putting EVs on display and telling salespeople to offer them in a reasonable way would take care of that. Today, in my province, EVs are as scarce as hen’s teeth and few if any are on display. Is it the chicken or the egg that’s missing?

Come on Manitoba! You know you could do this too.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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22 Responses to Amen!

  1. DrLozer wrote, “If you don’t get delivery of your shoddy little plastic tricycle by December 31st, 2018, you agree to come clean on this site and admit that you were duped all along.”

    Even in that case, “duped” implies deception/fraud. EMV has been in the works for years and is a reasonable efficient project. There is no duplicity. Even if there were duplicity, what would be it’s object? Investors and customers are quite happy with the progress. We just need some acceleration.

  2. DrLoser says:

    An influx of capital and certification just about guarantees production of Solos in much larger numbers, perhaps even ~20/d at the present facility or more at a newer/larger facility. Heck, the reason for the present low rate of production could be that EMV is now setting up a new facility.

    Neither an influx of capital (which is rather dubious), nor certification (which is rather dubious), guarantees anything whatsoever, Robert.

    Some day my prince will come …

    Let us hold you to a single, verifiable, prediction. You are blathering on about 2018Q1. We’ll be kind, as we have to be to a man in the early stages of dementia, and make a single, easy-going, request for a deadline.

    Here we go then.

    If you don’t get delivery of your shoddy little plastic tricycle by December 31st, 2018, you agree to come clean on this site and admit that you were duped all along.

    Is that fair? It seems fair to me. And if you do, I’ll pay $100 to the charity of your choice.

    It’s a remote contingency, but I’ll be honest and suck up the dough if that happens. Will you?

    And have you considered buying a second-hand Leaf while you wait? I understand that the resale value is pretty darned solid.

  3. Grece wrote, “EM still cannot build/ship a single unit”.

    Clearly, that’s not the case. EMV has built and shipped many units. Solos have been seen in Toronto, Las Vegas, San Diego as well as Richmond, Vancouver and Victoria. The question is when the floodgates will open. 2018 is the year and Q1 is the quarter. There’s news that the appearance on Dragon’s Den may be imminent and I expect that’s following confirmation of certification. An influx of capital and certification just about guarantees production of Solos in much larger numbers, perhaps even ~20/d at the present facility or more at a newer/larger facility. Heck, the reason for the present low rate of production could be that EMV is now setting up a new facility. That takes manpower, training and time to lay out the place, build additional carts/jigs, acquire inventory of parts and install new/different management of the larger facility. I used to work in a tractor-factory. Even with a huge ongoing concern, those guys would shut down for six weeks to reconfigure stuff. It’s hard to mix production with configuring new assembly lines with limited manpower.

  4. That’s clearly not a build but a test-bed of some kind. The only poor quality I see there are a couple of bolts missing and hinges that could be more rugged. Notice that it’s not on a cart but a table. It’s not meant to move through the assembly line.

  5. Grece says:

    There’s no reason the type will not be certified nationally.

    That being the alleged case, EM still cannot build/ship a single unit. How much you want to wager Robert that not a single Solo is built/shipped in Q1 2018?

  6. Grece says:

    Petere cannot fly, his brain affects WIFI.

  7. DrLoser wrote, “Can you please parse the difference between the perfectly reasonable “rather dubious” and the almost girly “reports are … happening real soon now”.

    We are aware that many Solo EVs are running around Vancouver that have been individually certified as complying with Canadian safety standards. There’s no reason the type will not be certified nationally.

  8. DrLoser says:

    “OK, we’re all set for take-off. Please ensure that your seat-belts are securely buckled and that you have turned off all electrical equipment, including mobile phones.
    “Oh, and Peter Dolding, back in storage? Federal Aviation laws require that you switch off your brain.
    “… Never mind. I see you have already done that.”

  9. DrLoser says:

    When you are talking hybrid and a 7 hour flight. 1.5 hours from take off on electric 4 hours in flight on fuel that recharges batteries and then 1.5 hours on electric to land.

    What happened, Fifi, the dim street lights in that wretched cow town of yours in southern Queensland under which you disport your hairy little legs for the amusement of desperate passers-by suddenly all fuse under the influence of your mighty microwave-powered brain?

    That’s just absurd.

    Even given the assumption that anybody would design a hybrid plane, they’d do it in precisely the opposite way you suggest. For take-off and landing, you need power. For safe take-off and landing (and these account for 98% of aviation problems) you want as much power as you can get. Batteries are for storage and for predictable, constant power supply. Batteries would work for cruising, not for take-off and landing.

    I don’t know how many “short haul” flights you have ever taken, Fifi, although I’m guessing none at all, because the microwaves flooding out of your tiny little Prussian brain would obviously interfere somewhat with the finely tuned controls, but in my experience very few of them take one and a half hours to take off, nor one and a half hours to land.

    You may of course respond with linkies, my little Putzi. Do please look under the hood of your rusty reclaimed 1957 Holden ute and try to explain how you would scale the alternator up to the levels you require.

  10. DrLoser says:

    Grece wrote, “In fact, its rather dubious if you ever will!”

    That statement is not factual but speculative.

    At least it’s based upon the observable absence of any facts that back up your querulous senile desires, Robert. May I now cross-reference to one of your other posts?

    Well, reports are that certification is happening real soon now, like any day. The standards have been met and it’s just paperwork remaining. I expect to have my Solo in a few months.

    Can you please parse the difference between the perfectly reasonable “rather dubious” and the almost girly “reports are … happening real soon now, like any day” my prince will come?

    I’m pretty sure I know which one of the two is not factual, not even speculative, but actually pathetically gushy.

  11. Grece says:

    Neither of you can provide any evidence.

    CHUCKLE

  12. Grece wrote, “I can lookup any new car at various websites, and see certifications listed”.

    Not in real time you can’t. You get the finished product or the batch-processed version. You certainly don’t get every transaction just status.

  13. oiaohm says:

    Grece and I mentioned about the treaties. Last time you were not look at the CA locations as required. So I will presume you made the same mistake again.

  14. Grece says:

    Please Robert. I can lookup any new car at various websites, and see certifications listed. I have posted various links in the past regarding this. NO where was EM ever mentioned.

    Either provide evidence to back-up your claims Robert, or let it be known that you are just parroting Jerry and and hearsay deposition.

  15. Grece wrote, “There is NO U.S. agency or company currently looking at the Solo for any reason, you would find records of it.”
    You might believe that but it’s not true. You only see a tiny fraction of the interactions of automakers on the web: finished certifications and recalls predominate.

  16. Grece says:

    Again, certification by whom, what entity, what country, what standard, when, where, how long?

    This certification bullshit has been going on for at least a year. There is NO U.S. agency or company currently looking at the Solo for any reason, you would find records of it.

    Jerry, not being forthcoming with this information, just tell me he is blowing smoke up everyones asses.

  17. oiaohm says:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/norway-short-haul-flights-electric-deadline-no-fossil-fuels-climate-change-a8165526.html

    We are starting to see the changes happen. 1.5 hours at aircraft speeds gives you about a 885 km/550 mph range allow 1/3 in reserve. This is not the max possible. Even 1.5 hours flight allows a quite number of existing flight paths can done. Remembering when they land to take on passengers they can be swapping batteries in. It may see some terminals that were closed due to aircraft range reopened.

    When you are talking hybrid and a 7 hour flight. 1.5 hours from take off on electric 4 hours in flight on fuel that recharges batteries and then 1.5 hours on electric to land. That is not the max possible.

  18. oiaohm says:

    Grece
    …and yet they cannot ship a single unit in the past few months!
    When it comes to certification. Certification process will punish you if you go to mass production before the paperwork is in place. Really punish in that it will not matter if what you made is up to standard or not they will be crushed.

    So many unit had to be produced for certification. Basically your argument is your normal idiot clueless nature. People always underestimate how big of effect regulators have on production when they 1 are not working field or are on a country where regulators don’t work.

    I remember watching USA shows where they are making massive modifications to cars and them I remember the work here could only start after 6 months of paper work.

  19. Grece says:

    Everything has come together for Solo.

    …and yet they cannot ship a single unit in the past few months!

  20. Grece wrote, “In fact, its rather dubious if you ever will!”

    That statement is not factual but speculative. Everything has come together for Solo.

  21. Grece says:

    We’ve already discussed this Robert. Ontario province does the same thing too; either way you are still not going to receive your beloved SOLO next month,nor in the next business cycle. In fact, its rather dubious if you ever will!

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