From Russia With Hate

“The batch of more than 3,000 Russian-bought ads that Facebook is preparing to turn over to Congress shows a deep understanding of social divides in American society, with some ads promoting African American rights groups, including Black Lives Matter, and others suggesting that these same groups pose a rising political threat, say people familiar with the covert influence campaign.
 
The Russian campaign — taking advantage of Facebook’s ability to send contrary messages to different groups of users based on their political and demographic characteristics — also sought to sow discord among religious groups. Other ads highlighted support for Democrat Hillary Clinton among Muslim women.”
 
See Russian operatives used Facebook ads to exploit America’s racial and religious divisions
Yes, the Russians invested heavily in the US election. Evidence provided by FaceBook, probably the tip of the iceberg, clearly was targeted to incite Trumpists to vote and Hillarists to waver. I can see Trumpists like Trump and Bannon suggesting to the Russians just what to do to pick the scabs off several wounds in the USAian psyche complete with timing and regional flavour.

Those holding that there’s “no evidence that Russia influenced a single vote” are correct. The evidence suggests Russia influenced millions of votes. The Russians planted seeds of hate that grew into a win for Trump.

I expect that if FaceBook could find 3000 ads, there may be many times that better hidden. Then there’s Twitter and Breitbart and plain old e-mail and all kinds of PACs and … I can’t imagine Putin left many stones unturned.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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15 Responses to From Russia With Hate

  1. oiaohm says:

    Fifi, I was asking Robert not you, butt out.
    Grece this is a open forum. If you are asking a question you don’t know the answer. So have no right to complain when someone gives a more detailed answer.

    Maybe Grece you don’t like losing all the time because you are asking points that are in fact not really points when you look at the stats.

    I used your alter-ego nick-name, so by responding back to me, you agree it is a fitting title.
    Please read the law just because someone responds to Boss does not mean their name is boss right.

    This is you just attempting to win a point by being total scumbag using name calling grece. So this is grece the fifi hamdonger at it again.

    Realy please explain grece why you are talking to fifi who is you again.

  2. Mathias says:

    How could Robert be so stupid and easily brainwashed by mainstream media propaganda which is over course coordinated by US Deep State.

  3. ram says:

    Facebook is just a NSA/CIA front company. It is a reincarnation of the CIA’s Vietnam war era PROMIS program which evolved into their Human Terrain System project which gave rise to “Tracebook”. The data mining is all done on NSA servers. I have friends that used to work for the server contractor. Some things change, some things never do.

  4. Grece says:

    Fifi, I was asking Robert not you, butt out.

    I used your alter-ego nick-name, so by responding back to me, you agree it is a fitting title.

  5. oiaohm says:

    Deaf Spy maybe Trump supporters do need to be insulted.

    Thinking Trump told most of them what they wanted to hear and now is not going to deliver on what they were promised. They are a huge pack of suckers who failed to fact check what they were being offered.

  6. Deaf Spy says:

    That’s right, Robert! Keep insulting Trump voters. This, you know, is a sure way to guarantee the outcome of next elections.

  7. oiaohm says:

    Please explain Robert, how $150,000 in ads, can have an influence an election campaign, that spent $5 billion USD.
    Grece there are a few causes of this.
    1) Its not how much you spend its how effective that money is.
    2) Its now connected the Internet turns out to be.
    http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2016/12/how_many_people_really_get_their_news_from_facebook.html yes 18% Internet is there only news source but up to 44 % are using face-book.

    3) Voter turn out.
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/05/15/u-s-voter-turnout-trails-most-developed-countries/
    55% of the people voted and you only need half of that to win. Yes if your facebook stuff is really effective that could get you 30 percent of the vote so enough to win without using any other media source due to USA low voter turn out.

    4) What you advertise on Facebook has very limited regulation compared to using TV/Radio… and is also more targeted.
    5) How effective Facebook was proven to be at mental manipulation back in 2014. More effective than TV/Radio/Newspapers.

    Grece basically this is again lack of research on your part. The numbers over how many voted and how many can be contacted by Facebook tell you that is possible that a Facebook only campaign to win a USA election. Would not have as much success in Australia due to mandatory voting.

    Yes Facebook campaign still need events and other things to provide news feed material. So the Facebook costs for placing the advertisements is one thing then you have the other costs of venues and other things to make the material. S0 the 100 thousand is a tip of iceberg in costs. So you still would be after at least a billion even to run a Facebook only campaign. With Facebooks targeted advertisement there is less requirement to use constant policy that you will implement. Instead Facebook you say what the people want to hear.

    Note that main stream media was picking holes in what Trump was saying for be inconstant and down right conflicting with himself. This is because Trump was running a campaign for on-line target advertisement. The fake news part of the Trump campaign was to push a higher percentage into depending on the social media where he was using target advertisement.

    Russia paid for so much target advertisement Trump main support also paid for extra on to of Russia 100 thousand from Facebook. I would gues the figure spent on facebook target advertisement is in the few million from the Trump side.

  8. Grece, having no imagination, wrote, “Please explain Robert, how $150,000 in ads, can have an influence an election campaign, that spent $5 billion USD.”

    Clues:

    1. Identify a handful of key states where the margin is narrow,
    2. stir the pot with the ads, inspiring people to vote and to vote the way you want, and
    3. hire a whole espionage network to dig up dirt and help target the ads, and
    4. win, illegally.

    It’s a bit like a machine-gun. One way to hit a target is to hit everything even if it takes hours and many thousands of rounds of ammunition. Another is to hire a sniper and do it with one shot. Actual aimed fire and advertising is orders of magnitude more efficient than trusting to luck. In this case, it was an example of “crime pays”. That’s why Trump did it.

    The margin of votes in the key states turned out to be less than a million votes. $100K of ads could have done that but I expect Putin spent untold $millions doing the deed. Meanwhile Hillary won big in the non-critical states winning the popular vote by millions. Someone was sniping. Clearly Trump wasn’t smart enough to do that and it is doubtful that the IT-guys his son-in-law hired hit a home-run on their first at-bat too. I think they had Russian help.

  9. Grece says:

    Please explain Robert, how $150,000 in ads, can have an influence an election campaign, that spent $5 billion USD.

  10. oiaohm says:

    https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/02/facebook-apologises-psychological-experiments-on-users

    Deaf Spy the Russians just use what Facebook had experimented with in before 2014 and proved successful..

    I was to say that, too. I can’t believe US citizens are that easy to swing from one direction to another.
    This was totally predictable. Poor education. Idiots like you Deaf Spy who cannot fact check properly who use incorrect information all the time. Basically like it or not Deaf Spy you are a poster child for the people who were deceived by the Russia stunt for the election and for the face-book experiment in mood manipulation.

    Of course Deaf Spy you don’t want to admit how simple it is because that would require you to start admitting your defects.

  11. John Stamos wrote, “It’s hilarious to me that $100,000 in Facebook ads is apparently enough to completely wreck the American electoral system”.

    There’s no indication that the measure of interference is limited to $100K. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Further, the ads seem precisely aimed at certain regions and groups, increasing their effectiveness. These aren’t persuasive ads on the basis of logic, either. They are designed to inspire visceral reactions.

  12. Deaf Spy says:

    It’s hilarious to me that $100,000 in Facebook ads

    I was to say that, too. I can’t believe US citizens are that easy to swing from one direction to another.

    This whole idea, how great the Russian fake-news impact was to the elections and which leftists support readily, is quite insulting to common people in US. Leftists are so sure that common people are unable to reason and need wise guidance by, hm, the leftists.

    This is the same as Hillary’s misconception that women should have voted for her because Hillary is a woman. Just for that. So, for Hillary, it is fine for women to abandon any personal convictions, any logic and reason, just for the silly fact that one candidate is feminist. This is 1) condescending and insulting to women, and 2) sexist. Then leftists and Robert say that it is Trump who is sexist.

    Some things boggle the mind.

  13. John Stamos says:

    It’s hilarious to me that $100,000 in Facebook ads is apparently enough to completely wreck the American electoral system, which is roughly on par along the insanity meter as the suggestion that Russia has infiltrated the United States to a degree where it has more influence and power over America than it does over Belarus (which is a satellite at best).

    Clinton was an awful candidate.

  14. Deaf Spy wrote, “what happened with your love for Putin for forcing the Russian administration to use Linux?”

    Occasionally, even the worst bastards do the right thing. No one is all bad, even Trump.

  15. Deaf Spy says:

    Hey, what happened with your love for Putin for forcing the Russian administration to use Linux? 🙂

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