Here We Go. Trump Destabilizes Middle East. Foments War In The Gulf.

So, Trump visits with the leadership of Saudi Arabia and is celebrated at a big conference in Riyadh. Of course, Trump will give his blessing to Saudi Arabia for whatever punishment they wish to give to Qatr for promoting democracy in the region. Why not? Trump doesn’t value freedom and democracy. He scorns the rule of law. He has no moral compass. So, what do we get? A blockade of Qatr, an almost certain prelude to war. Iran is only too willing to help lift the blockade, eh?

Ugh! This is what USA gets from choosing an idiot as fearless leader. They get to follow him to Hell and, perhaps not, back. How much chaos will the world undergo because there is a child with his hand on the button in the White House? Trump doesn’t care. He’ll be well cared for. He’s a draft-dodger and the grandson of a draft-dodger. It’s always someone else who has to suffer for Trump’s stupid choices.

UPDATE
“US President Donald Trump has claimed credit for the pressure being placed on Qatar by Gulf neighbours who accuse it of supporting terrorism in the region.
 
He said his recent visit to Saudi Arabia was “already paying off” and the development might mark the “beginning of the end to the horror of terrorism”.”

Now Trump admits he betrayed the trust of an ally, Qatr, in the fight against terrorism. He sided with the Saudis who spent $billions funding “islamic” schools around the world where Al Qaida and ISIS felt welcome and were offered the youth of a whole generation to extreme views on everything islamic and east-west. Further, Trump makes no attempt to hide his Machiavellian intrigues. The guy’s a traitor to USA, and a wicked emissary to the world. Who can trust anything he says or does after these first few weeks in office? Who will trust the word of any POTUS for decades? He’s done the work of Putin and broken all pretence of right and justice in USAian ways. At the same time he’s put US military in harm’s way needlessly if this standoff descends into a shooting war with Qatr and Iran. What a thoughtless buffoon only interested in the size of his ego and bank account!

UPDATESaudi Arabia has demanded Qatr surrender to a long list of degrading demands, probably driving Qatr into the arms of Iran with some support from Turkey. Meanwhile, Trump fiddles while the Gulf burns.

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24 Responses to Here We Go. Trump Destabilizes Middle East. Foments War In The Gulf.

  1. Grece says:

    Let me ask you Robert. Is democracy, as you call it, synonymous with slavery?

  2. DrLoser says:

    No. It’s hope for a better future.

    You could probably apply that anodyne comment to just about anything, Bobby, pet. Would you care to specify the better future offered by Qatar? You know the sort of thing. Whippings. Slavery. Signing your life away for five years with no opt-out. That sort of thing.

    Incidentally, who exactly is “hoping for a better future?”

    The Amir, the journalists, the guys on the street, that largely ignored 50% of the population who are, well, let’s be gender-specific here, female?

    The slum-dwelling temporary slaves who are dying at the rate of five or more a day to build the stadiums for the 2022 World Cup?

    Go on, Robert. Tell us who these proud freedom fighters are.

    Tell us.

    Now, you buffoon.

  3. Joey Gladstone wrote, “arguing that Qatar promotes democracy is lunacy”.

    No. It’s hope for a better future.

  4. Joey Gladstone says:

    Bob Pogdon screeched autistically…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafala_system#Qatar << The Kafala system
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Qatar << human rights
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/24/un-gives-qatar-year-end-forced-labour-migrant-workers << UN condemnation for slavery (sorry, forced labour)
    https://www.hrw.org/middle-east/n-africa/qatar << HRW's extensive docs on Qatari abuses.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_and_state-sponsored_terrorism << state-sponsored terrorism.

    Qatar's first general election in its history (consultative only lol) was scheduled for 2013, but has been delayed until at least 2019 (pro-tip, Emir isn't an elected position).

    BUT THEY HAS AL JAZEERA

    The rest of the Gulf is fairly despicable as well, few would argue that. But arguing that Qatar promotes democracy is lunacy.

  5. Grece wrote, “A feeble old man living in the back-waters of the Red River”.

    Not back-waters here. I’m near the mouth of the river near where it flows into Lake Winnipeg.

  6. Grece says:

    The ramblings of Robert, the Manitobian Miser. A feeble old man living in the back-waters of the Red River, with far too much time on his hands.

    Even thought Robert hates Trump, it should be known by him, that the Gulf allies have repeatedly criticized Qatar for alleged support of the Muslim Brotherhood, a nearly 100-year-old Islamist group considered a terrorist organization by Saudi Arabia and the UAE.

    With that being said, I am making the call that Robert supports terrorists.

    As in my early inquiry he never states a YES or a NO to my questioning.

  7. Joey Gladstone ranted…

    See Qatr foreign aid

    As one of the Gulf’s most developed nations they are attempting to help many impoverished/disadvantaged nations lift themselves up. That’s the essence of democracy, taking care of the least among us.

    See Al Jazeera, a tool of enlightenment compared to the strict censorship found in many Gulf states.

  8. Joey Gladstone says:

    ” Qatr for promoting democracy in the region.”

    By institutionalizing what is by most definitions feudalism at best, and slavery at worst? Are you honestly not aware of the Kafala system that deprives 5/6 of its residents basic rights? Maybe you forgot that its a monarchy and has never in its history, held an election?

    This reads like “I have no idea what I’m talking about but Trump bad so Qatar good yay inbreeding”

  9. Grece says:

    Further, cousin-marriages make stronger families

    Did you marry your cousin Robert? What about your kids and grand-kids, will they be marrying their cousins?

  10. Grece wrote some crap but, “the government, after starting a nationwide educational campaign to inform related couples who intend to marry of the risk of genetic disease, is planning to require mandatory blood tests before marriage and premarital counseling.”

    So, the problem is solved. Notice, TFA is not about intelligence or rage… They are not simple genetic traits and may be enhanced or prevented by cousin-marriage. Further, cousin-marriages make stronger families if the in-laws are not in-laws…

  11. Grece says:

    Crap Robert? It’s commonly known throughout the world, why aren’t you aware of this?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/01/world/saudi-arabia-awakes-to-the-perils-of-inbreeding.html

    That’s a rather dated news piece, but here is a medical journal written about the subject.

    Inbreeding or consanguineous marriage is a common traditional practice in Middle Eastern cultures.

    For someone that supposedly knows a lot about the Middle East, you sure have a lack of understanding in cultural practices.

  12. kurkosdr says:

    That’s promoting democracy? Get lost.

  13. More crap from Grece. Fake facts.

  14. Kurkosdr wrote, “can you explain how Qatr is promoting democracy in the region?”

    Read the damned link! Qatr is the most “advanced” country in the region, except perhaps for Israel. They actually are willing to share their point of view with the outside world in English rather than hiding dark secrets as does Saudi Arabia. Yes, they do have trouble spending oil-money in the right way always but there is at least a glimmer of respect for human rights compared to Saudi where the king can just order someone killed and it’s done. Women can vote and run for office and drive automobiles for Pity’s sake. That’s centuries ahead of Saudi life.

  15. Kurkosdr says:

    With that out of the way, can you explain how Qatr is promoting democracy in the region? Your entire post hinges on the fact Trump is a bad person because “he will give his blessing to Saudi Arabia for whatever punishment they wish to give to Qatr for promoting democracy in the region”.

    So, you ‘d better elaborate on the “Qatr for promoting democracy in the region” bit, if you don’t want to be seen as a babbling bafoon.

  16. Grece says:

    Considering inbreeding of Mohammedans, Joe Rogan and Gavin McInnes discuss this topic.

  17. Kurkosdr wrote, “Even if it does not reduce life expectancy it does lead to lower intelligence and a higher change of schizophrenia and violent behavior, among other things.”

    Cousin marriage has nothing to do with that. The issue is multiplying recessive genes. There are no genes for anger or intelligence. Where do you get this crap?

  18. kurkosdr says:

    Also, you still haven’t answered my question: How are Qatr “promoting democracy in the region”? Seriously, I am curious to see what you mean by that. Please elaborate.

  19. kurkosdr says:

    Define “inbred”.

    The offspring of two people who are cousins, especially first-degree cousins. Even if it does not reduce life expectancy it does lead to lower intelligence and a higher change of schizophrenia and violent behavior, among other things.

    And yes, I know inbreeding is the exception in some US states, but in many Middle Eastern states it is more than half of the population and is considered a good thing because Muhammad liked that (with the notable exception of Iran, which is the reason Iran didn’t evolve into yet another hellhole like Pakistan, Afganistan and Yemen and it actually sends scientists and engineers to the western world instead of illegal immigrants… maybe some other Shia-majority Islamic nations are like that, but the Sunni-majority ones are mostly inhabited by inbreds, aka offsprings of people who were first-degree cousins, which explains much about those nations)

  20. Kurkosdr wrote, “around half of the people from the Middle East are inbred, and the practice goes back hundreds of years”.

    Define “inbred”. There’s a lot of marrying cousins going around. There’s nothing bad about that. Saudi Arabia where I know populations are closely related has a life expectancy of 74 years compared to USA with 78. However, in Canada, life expectancy is 82. I guess USAians are more inbred than Canadians, or is it universal Medicare? USA has laws against marriage of cousins. Canada has not.

    BTW, Saudis often import brides. I met several from USA/UK when I lived there.

  21. Kurkosdr says:

    Actually Robert, the Middle East was destabilized the minute oil was discovered in the region, oh about one-hundred years ago.

    Because before the discovery of oil, the Middle East was a place of high civilization and culture the last several hundred years, not a bunch of mulahs constantly chopping each-other’s head off while inbreeding with their cousins (hint: around half of the people from the Middle East are inbred, and the practice goes back hundreds of years) a practice that causes reduced intelligence to the offspring and a higher chance of schizophrenia and violent behavior. And as we all know, Middle Eastern states were not a bunch of monarchial Sharia-law emirates in constant war with each other. Riiight…

    So, Saudi Arabia is far less clean than Qatr.

    You still haven’t answered my question: How are they “promoting democracy in the region”? Please elaborate

  22. Grece wrote, “Bloackade, war, over Qatar Robert?”

    Saudi Arabia has blocked access by land, sea and air. No food, water, people, nothing gets through. That’s a blockade. It’s an act of war.

    Grece also wrote, “do you support the the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaida and Islamic State?”

    MB was actually democratically elected in Egypt and then overthrown by force. I think the military junta that replaced them was worse. MB had some islamist roots that were a little rough but when they tried democracy look what happened. I have nothing good to say about those other murdering bastards.

    Meanwhile Saudi Arabia funded many schools that cranked out jihadists who fought the Russians in Afghanistan and then turned on everything western with no concept of rule of law. So, Saudi Arabia is far less clean than Qatr. It’s just that Trump has not much business in Qatr and Saudi Arabia was only too complimentary of Trump if he would look the other way while they invaded Qatr. Expect a bit of cash to find its way into Trump’s coffers if that happens.

  23. Grece says:

    Actually Robert, the Middle East was destabilized the minute oil was discovered in the region, oh about one-hundred years ago.

    Bloackade, war, over Qatar Robert? LOL…you have been watching too many movies.

    So let me ask you, if you are against Trump and Saudi Arabia blacking Qatar. Shall we explore why the blockade was sought in the first place? Sure, lets ponder that.

    Saudi Arabia said in a statement that it had broken off physical and diplomatic contact due to Qatar’s “embrace of various terrorist and sectarian groups aimed at destabilising the region”. Resentment has been growing for years, principally over Qatar’s support for the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, an organisation which the UAE vehemently opposes, but Saudi Arabia also accused Qatar of supporting al-Qaida and Islamic State, extremist groups which have carried out atrocities in the Middle East and Europe.

    So Robert, do you support the the Muslim Brotherhood, al-Qaida and Islamic State? Because it would appear that is the case here.

  24. Kurkosdr says:

    to Qatr for promoting democracy in the region

    How are they doing that? Please elaborate.

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