Ventspils Controls Costs With FLOSS

“the city has replaced more and more costly proprietary software solutions by open source alternatives, gaining substantial savings, says Raitis Roze, deputy director at the city’s IT department. “We also implemented open source IT management tools, enabling us to manage a complex system with a relatively small IT staff.”
 
The city administration has been using free and open source software solutions since 2009. The open source policy is fully supported by the town’s politicians, “The biggest challenge is changing user habits when switching to a new e-mail system, changing the work domain, or replacing the document management solution,” says Roze, “However, over time, staff members get accustomed to the changes.”
 
See Latvian Ventspils controls costs with open source
Chuckle. While Munich anguishes over considering returning to slavery, Ventspils relishes the freedom of Free/Libre Open Source software. How deniers of Software Freedom have to twist themselves into knots to deny the benefits of FLOSS. Amazing.

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9 Responses to Ventspils Controls Costs With FLOSS

  1. oiaohm says:

    Malaysia had switched 703 of the state’s 724 agencies
    go bat-shit insane and commit their municipality to a 100% FLOSS hardware and software solution.
    DrLoser correct the first thing that shows that a solution is insane is 100 percent FOSS or Windows or OS X everywhere. Even places like Malaysia and French governments are not that insane.

    Malaysia has full departments that are 100 percent open source. Over 90 percent of Malaysia government full operations are open source everything include desktops. Where FOSS does not work they don’t use FOSS. So just like the French they take a merit based method.

    Latvian Ventspils says controls cost by using FOSS software. This is because they are sane deployment that is not 100 percent FOSS if the commercial software can prove it worth the dollars.

    Basically DrLoser you want to have a black and white arguement when that is not reality of the large FOSS deployments. Reality even in so called 100 percent Windows deployments you find sections of FOSS desktops being used. So the arguement is what is the correct ratio.

    Probably not. I suspect the entire city is a nest of self-harming sado-masochists. That would be the best fit for your “different needs” theory, I think.
    DrLoser this is you not being up on your research. The fact the place is not 100 percent FOSS says they are not that.

    Yes different cities do have different needs.

  2. DrLoser says:

    These “different needs,” incidentally, Robert. Would you care to elaborate on the “different needs?” I mean, clearly these needs are different from the “very similar needs” that almost every other municipality in the rest of the world has. Otherwise they wouldn’t be “different,” would they?

    I wonder what it is that makes those needs “different?”

    Could it be political fiat by a bunch of useless damaging ignorant self-serving goons?

    Probably not. I suspect the entire city is a nest of self-harming sado-masochists. That would be the best fit for your “different needs” theory, I think.

    Do please come up with a better guess.

  3. DrLoser says:

    Yes, it is different. It’s in a different country with different needs in IT identified by different people.

    No, Robert, it is not different.

    It is the sixth biggest city in Latvia, with a population of around 40,000 people. Of those 40,000 people, apparently it boasts a very nearly unique bunch of political zombies who for reasons of their own have forced some lousy FLOSS solution on the rest of the city.

    Get back to us when Riga (650,000) or Daugavpils (93,000) or Liepaja (77,000) or Jelgava (60,000) or Jurmala (51,000) go bat-shit insane and commit their municipality to a 100% FLOSS hardware and software solution.

    This is pitiful. It really is. Why not go back to explaining, via web page stats, how Reunion is “leading the world” in FLOSS adoption?

  4. oiaohm says:

    DrLoser you asked for the differences.
    1) Ventspils does not roll is own distribution. In fact it deploys 3 standard distributions. This looks like France and Malaysia deployments with strict rules against reinventing the wheel.
    2) Just like France and Malaysia deployment for applications that need to be the same version they have used appimage to avoid modifying the distributions.

    It does make sense Ventspils consultant in 2009 had worked on the French government deployments.

    Freiburg was modelled after Munich including making their own custom version of stuff. Freiburg was unable to migrate to Libreoffice from OpenOffice due to their custom patches to OpenOffice not being usable.

    City of Vienna Robert mentioned also failed to Migrate to Linux in 2008 returned to windows but are migrating to Linux now very successfully. Before 2008 migration of Vienna was modelled after Munich so of course it turned into a complete failure. Current Migration of Vienna is modelled after the French migration and is being very successful. Again you find a consultant link in both cases.

    So some of the cases like Vienna that you held up as reason not to Migrate to Linux DrLoser have now means you have a big problem with your point of view that Munich leave Linux means the Linux Desktop is dead there. The reality is they will face a fight from the staff as they attempt to get rid of the Linux Desktop just like they faced a fight by those who want the Windows Desktop.

    So by the prior cases I would suspect the return to Windows to be temporary. If timeline is anything to go by the average return time to Windows before starting another migration is 2 years. So you would think another migration to Linux could be started before the migration to windows 10 is complete. Normally the second attempt is more stable.

  5. DrLoser wrote, “Ventspils is somehow different from *”.

    Yes, it is different. It’s in a different country with different needs in IT identified by different people.

    2014 – City of Vienna increasingly turns to open source

    “The administration in the Austrian capital, Vienna, is expanding its use of open source solutions, including on its workstations, because of new requirements, open data, budget constraints and the major shift towards smartphones and tablets.”

  6. DrLoser says:

    So, Robert, you’re saying that Ventspils is somehow different from Vienna.

    And that Ventspils is somehow different from Freiburg.

    And that Ventspils is somehow different from Munich.

    I know! I know! It’s because they’re Latvian, isn’t it!

  7. dougman says:

    “Give them some years and check them back. Users will be raving for MSO and Outlook.”

    About the ONLY alternative is corporate gmail.

  8. Deaf Spy wrote, “Give them some years and check them back. Users will be raving for MSO and Outlook.”

    Or not. They’ve been using the stuff for a while. TFA states users do become accustomed. I certainly have not seen riots when I changed desktops to GNU/Linux.

  9. Deaf Spy says:

    Give them some years and check them back. Users will be raving for MSO and Outlook.

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