Systemd Init System In Debian Jessie – Democratic Decision or unCivil War?

The chairman of the technical committee, Bdale, called the vote:
“- – – start ballot – – – We exercise our power to decide in cases of overlapping jurisdiction (6.1.2) by asserting that the default init system for Linux architectures in jessie should be
D systemd
U upstart
O openrc
V sysvinit (no change)
F requires further discussion
Should the project pass a General Resolution before the release of "jessie" asserting a "position statement about issues of the day" on init systems, that position replaces the outcome of this vote and is adopted by the Technical Committee as its own decision. – – – end ballot – – -“

The votes went this way:

  • I vote D U O V F. – Bdale
  • I vote: D U O V F – Russ Allbery
  • I vote F U D O V – Steve Langasek
  • I vote D > U > O > V > F. – Don Armstrong
  • I vote: 1 D 2 U 3 O 4 V 5 F – Keith Packard
  • I vote UDOFV – Colin Watson
  • I vote F, V, O, U, D — Ian Jackson

I count 4 D’s in first choice position out of 7 so the decision is straight forward if controversial. Jessie will have systemd running the show around the Linux kernel in Debian GNU/Linux.

This brief summary hides all the details of the angry words, posturing, taking sides, beating up on people and calling for a ban on an individual member and replacing the chairman… Such drama. I wonder if there will be a movie? I think we should just live with the decision and move forward.

Interesting fallout could be what Ubuntu/Canonical does in response. Debian is their upstream. Will they choose to undo a lot of what Debian does or will they change to systemd as well? We shall see.

See call for votes on default Linux init system for jessie.

About Robert Pogson

I am a retired teacher in Canada. I taught in the subject areas where I have worked for almost forty years: maths, physics, chemistry and computers. I love hunting, fishing, picking berries and mushrooms, too.
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2 Responses to Systemd Init System In Debian Jessie – Democratic Decision or unCivil War?

  1. mmmnxna says:

    **** SYSTEMD

    >It is pretty ridiculous to me to consider the basic plumbing on the
    >system as replaceable as the thing that decides where on the screen my
    >shortcut to Google search for “lolcatz” goes.
    >
    >Perhaps that is just me though. ;)

    See, systemd pushers are always trying to make their thing the only thing.

    “We arre the space robots, we are here to protect you”
    “I am the shover robot, I push bread down their throats”
    “We are here to protect you”
    “Do not trust the pusher robot, he is malfunctioning”
    “Humans must be shoved, they must go down the stairs”
    “Please go stand by the stairs so I can protect”
    “I am better than the shover robot”

    –Shover and Pusher Robot
    ::Wrong way to do things.

    “Oh. My. Money”
    ‘Don’t you mean God?’
    “You worship your thing, I’ll worship mine”
    –Seto Kaiba
    :: Correct way to do things.

  2. oiaohm says:

    Systemd does have a shim solution to allow a lot of Systemd dependant programs run other init systems.

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