Robert Pogson

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23 of Netcraft’s Top 40 Hosting Sites Run GNU/Linux

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23 of Netcraft’s Top 40 Hosting Sites Run GNU/Linux

There are just 5 with that other OS. People can have the same benefits that businesses see for servers on their own PCs: reliability, speed, ease of management.

see Hosting Providers sites ordered by OS.

I recommend Debian GNU/Linux. It’s the most popular distribution of GNU/Linux on web servers for good reason. It’s been around a long time and people know it works reliably. I like the huge repository of software useful for client or server. Indeed. I like mixing the two.

12 Comments

  1. ram

    oiaohm, presently Adobe and its products are completely irrelevant to my business. I understand they make some consumer photo and video products, but I haven’t seen their stuff used by professional media creators in over ten years.

    I agree Valve porting their games to Linux will be useful to consumers and gamers. Their influence on Linux gaming may, however, be less than many imagine as there are already some fine open source Linux based games.

    Curiously, whereas in most application categories Linux as a multitude of choices, in gaming only one or two games tend to dominate each category. For example, the ‘space conquest’ is dominated by VegaStrike, ‘first person shooter’ are dominated by Sauerbraten and its derivative RedEclipse, ‘fantasy strategy’ has Wesnoth, and so forth.

    Of course the game names are hardly advertisements – who knows, maybe all the good names were copyrighted already ;-)

  2. Robert Pogson

    No, MK, she did not need to install GNU/Linux. All the PCs in my home run it and she just walks up to any of them and lets fly normal user clicks. She is not literate yet so just uses a few keys and a mouse. She could use any OEM PC with GNU/Linux I guess as long as a few useful applications were installed.

  3. oiaohm

    ram I would not say that Linux Audio is without its gremlins.

    Biggest problem from Adobe is they need to learn a few lessons from Valve and some other closed source package makers for Linux.

    Valve particular versions of drivers not good enough to run there programs. Simple we don’t support them they are black listed and a list of what needs to be done to get off that black list.

    Basic idea 1 you do not have to support everything.
    Basic idea 2 support nothing be ignored.

    Adobe has the habit of taking the point of view its not good enough we will reinvent wheel in house and wonder why all hell breaks lose.

    Valve has provided a few small test case programs to demo what they want. Results have been massive. Intel and others in the open source stack are working on getting opengl fully multi threaded. This will bring some large performance jumps.

    Nvidia closed source drivers had to on Linux become multi-threaded to avoid the valve black ban.

    This is the reality of FOSS operation systems you don’t have to support everything. If you document exactly what you need and X has to provide that before you can support it. It will be accepted.

    Arts ESD and NAS sound servers died because everyone voted with there programs. There are almost no programs today that support them at all.

    Adobe with flash has quite powerful voting powers at this stage. Just they never flex them and then they complain its too complex. They need to learn to prune.

  4. ram

    Hardware acceleration works better on Linux than any other operating system. That is why every major movie studio uses Linux for editing, FX, animations, digital colour grading, rendering, and just about everything else.

    Linux audio likewise works better than any other system. Again almost every major movie studio uses Linux boxen for their audio functions. Likewise, most professional recording studios use Linux platforms. Take a look at the Linux Audio websites and discussion boards.

    Don’t take my word for it, look at the help wanted pages of your favorite big movie studios, production houses, and digital SFX houses. Or look up the companies that supply these organizations such as Harrison Consoles which just supplied the world’s biggest studio sound mixing console (based on Linux) to Universal Pictures. Or look up what that ‘little tiny’ production company Weta Digital uses and those ‘minor’ films they have worked on ;-)

    Get real!

  5. oiaohm

    MK come on most people cannot install Windows either.

    In fact Windows users more commonly have out dated parts compared to Linux users.

    MK so you cannot did up a current adobe reference. Stuff has changed since the year 2007.

    http://blogs.adobe.com/penguinswf/files/penguinswf/linuxaudio.png

    Take this picture from this page and start deleting.

    Arts, ESD and NAS are no more. And were declared dead 2007 become complete deceased from stack in latter years. You will find them in no current distributions.

    MK someone needs to draw a completely new graphic.

    Clanlib displayed as only connected to OSS is now connected to ALSA, OSS, jackaudio and Pulseaudio that happened 2008/2009.

    There is no upper library that you can play audio by that does not connect to all 4 any more either directly on indirectly. The 4 being Alsa, OSS, Jackaudio and Pulseaudio. OSS support is required if you want to support non Linux.

    MK being a troll using out of date graphic does not get you anywhere.

    Linux audio has been a decreasing mess. There are 4 audio interfaces under windows.

    MK funny the open source flash players get past the audio problem with no issue. Adobe could have someone even snoop at the source code if they wanted to and write down how the open source players pull it off.

    Basically include removed items that you don’t need to support and did not need to support in 2007 even before just a huge excuse for idiots to believe.

  6. MK

    Are you saying that your granddaughter went to http://www.debian.org, dug through the host of ISO images, downloaded GNU/FSF/RMS/Debian/6/squeeze/stable, put it on a CD or flash drive, and then installed, all by herself? Hard to believe, but pretty impressive for a 3 year old. I can only imagine how outdated are both flash and Firefox, and how badly her games and videos lug, because flash for Linux sucks – poor child.
    …and before you say this is Adobe’s fault, let me ask, whose fault is it that hardware acceleration doesn’t work on Linux?
    …and whose fault is it that Linux audio is a mess?
    http://blogs.adobe.com/penguinswf/2007/05/welcome_to_the_jungle.html

  7. Robert Pogson

    MK wrote, “for actual consumer devices, going Linux would bring more problems then benefits. “

    Tell that to my 3 year old granddaughter who has no problems with GNU/Linux. Her “main machine” is a netbook which I have not even touched for months. She has another HP notebook she uses also with no problems. We did have an issue a few days ago where Chrome browser would not play Flash but that was Google’s problem. A few days later, they quit pushing the bug and the updates worked. Firefox continued to play Flash so she had no problem. If GNU/Linux can please a three year old, it can please anyone. BTW she surfs YouTube and plays a bunch of educational video games. She has no problem booting either machine or starting “her” applications.

  8. ram

    Most, perhaps all, of those sites that report ‘that other OS’ are probably also running Linux. They just report some other operating system to throw hackers ‘off the scent’.

    I know my company’s servers reported that ‘other operating system’ for years. We were, of course, actually running Linux – although in the very beginning we did run OS/2-Warp4-Server for a while. By the 2.6 series Linux kernels we were sufficiently confident in Linux security that we actually started reporting back as Linux and not something else.

  9. oiaohm

    MK really “graphics, audio, wireless drivers, little things like touchpads and thumb readers – it’s a freaking jungle.” Most of that these days is not a jungle on hardware built for Linux.

    Reality apple does not have to support every bit of hardware in existence, Microsoft does not have to.

    So why does Linux. The jungle is is nothing more than lack of hardware produced to be Linux running.

    MK and the Fragmentation issue could turn into a red herring. http://people.gnome.org/~alexl/glick2/

    Yes red herring. glick2 is package management without distribution binding. This is the first time that an graphical environment and package management has properly combined on Linux.

    Yes glick2 is interesting. Its taking advantage of Linux filesystem means to hardlink to replace ms SXS solution and install dlls locally solution so achieving lower disk usage and memory usage compared to Windows while still being portable. Even more fun it exploiting Linux cgroups to bend the file-system applications see.

    This is your problem MK. The arguments against Linux are fading. In fact they are fading fast.

    glick2 is included in the next version of Gnome. There is no particular reason why it cannot be picked up by other Windows Managers so ending the fragmentation problem of distributions fairly much in the same way Windows has between windows versions.

    MK for all this time of so called Linux fragmentation its always been possible to make portable applications between Linux Distributions. Issue has been too much memory and disc usage. Then portable application packaging solutions not being able to integrate back into the desktop simply was the final problem. Glick2 addresses the problems for third parties to provide distribution independent applications that don’t break every time the distribution updates.

    Mind you we have to thank Android for this. APK files of Android gave the idea to the solution.

    Yes Glick2 will be taking advantage of the Linux Standard Base ABIs.

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