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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/19/remember-vista-incapable-here-comes-8-incapable/#comment-101049</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 18:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mongrol wrote, &lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;Oiaohm, please just contact Google, and ask them what they call their mobile phone and tablet operating system.&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Come on! You know you want it.

&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;Fix for Google breaking change to x86 paths: &quot;i686-android-linux&quot; -&gt; &quot;i686-linux-android&quot;.&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

see http://code.google.com/p/vs-android/

That&#039;s for NDK stuff. Fitting. Google wants to give Linux top billing.

Check out this ad for developers:
&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;Job Title: Android / Linux Driver Engineer / Android / Linux driver engineer departments: R &amp; D work location: Shanghai, Beijing number: 10 people. Responsibilities: 1, transplant and test Android / Linux BSP drive ...&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Chuckle. In the real world, people speak their minds unlimited by the burdens of trolls.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mongrol wrote, <em><font color="green">&#8220;Oiaohm, please just contact Google, and ask them what they call their mobile phone and tablet operating system.&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>Come on! You know you want it.</p>
<p><em><font color="green">&#8220;Fix for Google breaking change to x86 paths: &#8220;i686-android-linux&#8221; -> &#8220;i686-linux-android&#8221;.&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>see <a href="http://code.google.com/p/vs-android/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/vs-android/</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s for NDK stuff. Fitting. Google wants to give Linux top billing.</p>
<p>Check out this ad for developers:<br />
<em><font color="green">&#8220;Job Title: Android / Linux Driver Engineer / Android / Linux driver engineer departments: R &#038; D work location: Shanghai, Beijing number: 10 people. Responsibilities: 1, transplant and test Android / Linux BSP drive &#8230;&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>Chuckle. In the real world, people speak their minds unlimited by the burdens of trolls.</p>
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		<title>By: kozmcrae</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/19/remember-vista-incapable-here-comes-8-incapable/#comment-101046</link>
		<dc:creator>kozmcrae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mongrol wrote:

&quot;NO, IT’S NOT. There is no evidence of it being used by _anyone_ apart from neckbeards and basement-dwellers who are desperate for Linux to ride Android’s coat-tails.&quot;

You just made yourself irrelevant.  Not even you believe that &quot;neckbeard, basement dweller&quot; nonsense.  &quot;Desperate for Linux to ride Android’s coat-tails.&quot;?  My my Mongrol.  Don&#039;t you mean Android&#039;s ride on Linux?  If Android didn&#039;t ride on Linux you could remove Linux totally from Android and Android would ride off into the sunset happily ever after.  

CAPS, &lt;b&gt;bold&lt;/b&gt; ,_emphasis_, boy Mongrol, you&#039;re pulling all the stops on this one.  You really can&#039;t stand the idea that Linux has anything to do with Android&#039;s massive success.  But Linux is part of Android&#039;s DNA and no matter what formating tricks you use, it won&#039;t change that fact.  

You are a perfect candidate for Monty Python&#039;s dead parrot routine Mongrol.  Why don&#039;t you go back to techbroil, you&#039;ll get the support you need and you won&#039;t need to bother with any HTML tags.

In the end, it doesn&#039;t really matter Mongrol.  Linux is not based on name recognition.  People don&#039;t choose Android because it is based on Linux.  In fact, Microsoft and their Cult followers have put so much effort into demeaning Linux by calling people who use it &quot;neckbeards and basement dwellers&quot;, that disassociating Linux from the Android brand name may have helped it in its early adoption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mongrol wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;NO, IT’S NOT. There is no evidence of it being used by _anyone_ apart from neckbeards and basement-dwellers who are desperate for Linux to ride Android’s coat-tails.&#8221;</p>
<p>You just made yourself irrelevant.  Not even you believe that &#8220;neckbeard, basement dweller&#8221; nonsense.  &#8220;Desperate for Linux to ride Android’s coat-tails.&#8221;?  My my Mongrol.  Don&#8217;t you mean Android&#8217;s ride on Linux?  If Android didn&#8217;t ride on Linux you could remove Linux totally from Android and Android would ride off into the sunset happily ever after.  </p>
<p>CAPS, <b>bold</b> ,_emphasis_, boy Mongrol, you&#8217;re pulling all the stops on this one.  You really can&#8217;t stand the idea that Linux has anything to do with Android&#8217;s massive success.  But Linux is part of Android&#8217;s DNA and no matter what formating tricks you use, it won&#8217;t change that fact.  </p>
<p>You are a perfect candidate for Monty Python&#8217;s dead parrot routine Mongrol.  Why don&#8217;t you go back to techbroil, you&#8217;ll get the support you need and you won&#8217;t need to bother with any HTML tags.</p>
<p>In the end, it doesn&#8217;t really matter Mongrol.  Linux is not based on name recognition.  People don&#8217;t choose Android because it is based on Linux.  In fact, Microsoft and their Cult followers have put so much effort into demeaning Linux by calling people who use it &#8220;neckbeards and basement dwellers&#8221;, that disassociating Linux from the Android brand name may have helped it in its early adoption.</p>
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		<title>By: Mongrol</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/19/remember-vista-incapable-here-comes-8-incapable/#comment-101030</link>
		<dc:creator>Mongrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 06:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Mongrol conventions don’t go away no matter how much hand waving you do.&quot;

Oiaohm, please just contact Google, and ask them what they call their mobile phone and tablet operating system.

&quot;No matter what you say the formal name call Android/Linux is valid.&quot;

NO, IT&#039;S NOT. There is no evidence of it being used by _anyone_ apart from neckbeards and basement-dwellers who are desperate for Linux to ride Android&#039;s coat-tails.

You can argue about formal names, conventions, and any other far-fetched reason you want. 

&lt;b&gt;They do not apply here.&lt;/b&gt;

The fact remains; it&#039;s &quot;Android&quot;. Use of &quot;Android/Linux&quot; is invalid and disingenuous.

Your lame attempts to prove I am wrong in other areas do not make you right in this one.


&quot;oldman ps just because I don’t use grammar as much as I should don’t not mean I don’t know it. Really where have you been that you have not ripped into Mongrol for poor English.&quot;

There are more than a few grammatical errors here alone. For someone who &quot;knows it&quot; you NEVER USE IT.

Feel free to roll out one of your usual lame excuses for your mangling of the language. Or do what you often do, and make up a new one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Mongrol conventions don’t go away no matter how much hand waving you do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oiaohm, please just contact Google, and ask them what they call their mobile phone and tablet operating system.</p>
<p>&#8220;No matter what you say the formal name call Android/Linux is valid.&#8221;</p>
<p>NO, IT&#8217;S NOT. There is no evidence of it being used by _anyone_ apart from neckbeards and basement-dwellers who are desperate for Linux to ride Android&#8217;s coat-tails.</p>
<p>You can argue about formal names, conventions, and any other far-fetched reason you want. </p>
<p><b>They do not apply here.</b></p>
<p>The fact remains; it&#8217;s &#8220;Android&#8221;. Use of &#8220;Android/Linux&#8221; is invalid and disingenuous.</p>
<p>Your lame attempts to prove I am wrong in other areas do not make you right in this one.</p>
<p>&#8220;oldman ps just because I don’t use grammar as much as I should don’t not mean I don’t know it. Really where have you been that you have not ripped into Mongrol for poor English.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are more than a few grammatical errors here alone. For someone who &#8220;knows it&#8221; you NEVER USE IT.</p>
<p>Feel free to roll out one of your usual lame excuses for your mangling of the language. Or do what you often do, and make up a new one.</p>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/19/remember-vista-incapable-here-comes-8-incapable/#comment-101026</link>
		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oldman ps just because I don&#039;t use grammar as much as I should don&#039;t not mean I don&#039;t know it.  Really where have you been that you have not ripped into Mongrol  for poor English.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oldman ps just because I don&#8217;t use grammar as much as I should don&#8217;t not mean I don&#8217;t know it.  Really where have you been that you have not ripped into Mongrol  for poor English.</p>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/19/remember-vista-incapable-here-comes-8-incapable/#comment-101025</link>
		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mongrol basically you forgetting basics of how formal names are formed from given names.

Lastname, First Second...
First Second ..... Lastname
Title at start just follows with a space. 

Title at end of name - or / or .

Rank or Association  &quot;of&quot; or / if it after name.

These are all base rules of formal name construction.  Yes they are a confused mess.  When you are talking about non living it also comes under designation name.

I would hate to have you writing Formal place cards for events Mongrol.  You would not know the questions to ask so you get them right and don&#039;t insult the guests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mongrol basically you forgetting basics of how formal names are formed from given names.</p>
<p>Lastname, First Second&#8230;<br />
First Second &#8230;.. Lastname<br />
Title at start just follows with a space. </p>
<p>Title at end of name &#8211; or / or .</p>
<p>Rank or Association  &#8220;of&#8221; or / if it after name.</p>
<p>These are all base rules of formal name construction.  Yes they are a confused mess.  When you are talking about non living it also comes under designation name.</p>
<p>I would hate to have you writing Formal place cards for events Mongrol.  You would not know the questions to ask so you get them right and don&#8217;t insult the guests.</p>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/19/remember-vista-incapable-here-comes-8-incapable/#comment-101023</link>
		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mongrol conventions don&#039;t go away no matter how much hand waving you do.

Mongrol the &#124; pipe mark does appear in early china and Japan.  

--Its “Android”, not “Android/Linux”. No amount of hand-waving, tortured logic or frantic Googling will make this fact go away.--

This is hand waving.   Reality GNU/Linux  Ubuntu/Linux Redhat/Linux all appear as well.

Tokugawa Ieyasu&#124;Edo bakufu or  Tokugawa Ieyasu&#124;Tokugawa Shogunate is how his full formal name appears in documents referring to meetings.  Of course in Japanese chars in some of the old records.  Mongrol really you are insulting you being a smart ass and write someone name wrong.

In Japan it is mark of association.  So by Japan convention Android/Linux is fine.  Because Android is associated with Linux no matter how much you try to say otherwise.  Mongrol.

Mongrol this was particularly important information to know what Shogun group a person owned to.  Particularly if you were planing meetings.

Slash something appears when the convention moves to English style chars.  China and Japan both used &#124; issue is &#124; and the letter l look a lot a like with poor hand writing.  So it changed to the / or - we know today.

Mongrol so yes the convention starts in Japan and China using the &#124; and - chars(yes vertical writing).  It evolves the &#124; disappears replaced with / yet the - stays around.

As I said this is in the class of Mr MISS MS -san -chan.  Its not your given name but it can be a formal name used to address you.

This is not Googling this is because I have done years doing english language history on conventions trying to repair my english.  Theory was learn all the conventions would make my english better.

Also the / does appear at time used with police and mil.  Where given name is put before rank.  John Doe/Sergeant.  Just in case there is a real officer with the last name Sergeant.

Mongrol the convention is still well and truly alive and in use.

I was nice and avoid at first dropping the historic fact of the matter on you.  No matter what you say the formal name call Android/Linux is valid.  Android is the Given Name by Google.

Mongrol learn that Given Name and Formal Names are different things.  I have 1 set of given names.  You have a stack of different formal names.  Formal names have historic precedence that allows there existence.

You are trying to say Formal names cannot exist when talking about OS&#039;s.  This is talking so much BS its not funny Mongrol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mongrol conventions don&#8217;t go away no matter how much hand waving you do.</p>
<p>Mongrol the | pipe mark does appear in early china and Japan.  </p>
<p>&#8211;Its “Android”, not “Android/Linux”. No amount of hand-waving, tortured logic or frantic Googling will make this fact go away.&#8211;</p>
<p>This is hand waving.   Reality GNU/Linux  Ubuntu/Linux Redhat/Linux all appear as well.</p>
<p>Tokugawa Ieyasu|Edo bakufu or  Tokugawa Ieyasu|Tokugawa Shogunate is how his full formal name appears in documents referring to meetings.  Of course in Japanese chars in some of the old records.  Mongrol really you are insulting you being a smart ass and write someone name wrong.</p>
<p>In Japan it is mark of association.  So by Japan convention Android/Linux is fine.  Because Android is associated with Linux no matter how much you try to say otherwise.  Mongrol.</p>
<p>Mongrol this was particularly important information to know what Shogun group a person owned to.  Particularly if you were planing meetings.</p>
<p>Slash something appears when the convention moves to English style chars.  China and Japan both used | issue is | and the letter l look a lot a like with poor hand writing.  So it changed to the / or &#8211; we know today.</p>
<p>Mongrol so yes the convention starts in Japan and China using the | and &#8211; chars(yes vertical writing).  It evolves the | disappears replaced with / yet the &#8211; stays around.</p>
<p>As I said this is in the class of Mr MISS MS -san -chan.  Its not your given name but it can be a formal name used to address you.</p>
<p>This is not Googling this is because I have done years doing english language history on conventions trying to repair my english.  Theory was learn all the conventions would make my english better.</p>
<p>Also the / does appear at time used with police and mil.  Where given name is put before rank.  John Doe/Sergeant.  Just in case there is a real officer with the last name Sergeant.</p>
<p>Mongrol the convention is still well and truly alive and in use.</p>
<p>I was nice and avoid at first dropping the historic fact of the matter on you.  No matter what you say the formal name call Android/Linux is valid.  Android is the Given Name by Google.</p>
<p>Mongrol learn that Given Name and Formal Names are different things.  I have 1 set of given names.  You have a stack of different formal names.  Formal names have historic precedence that allows there existence.</p>
<p>You are trying to say Formal names cannot exist when talking about OS&#8217;s.  This is talking so much BS its not funny Mongrol.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/19/remember-vista-incapable-here-comes-8-incapable/#comment-100967</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 14:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oldman bashed everything not Wintel with &lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;Nor will the fact that it took a commercial company to make a. Success, not the vaunted community.

Android is a commercial os serving a new market segment.&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Last I checked GNU/Linux is a commercial OS serving every market segment and it has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a thriving community&lt;/a&gt;. So, what&#039;s oldman&#039;s point?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oldman bashed everything not Wintel with <em><font color="green">&#8220;Nor will the fact that it took a commercial company to make a. Success, not the vaunted community.</p>
<p>Android is a commercial os serving a new market segment.&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>Last I checked GNU/Linux is a commercial OS serving every market segment and it has <a href="http://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members" rel="nofollow">a thriving community</a>. So, what&#8217;s oldman&#8217;s point?</p>
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		<title>By: oldman</title>
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		<dc:creator>oldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nor will the fact that it took a commercial company to make a. Success, not the vaunted community.

Android is a commercial os serving a new market segment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nor will the fact that it took a commercial company to make a. Success, not the vaunted community.</p>
<p>Android is a commercial os serving a new market segment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mongrol</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/19/remember-vista-incapable-here-comes-8-incapable/#comment-100939</link>
		<dc:creator>Mongrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 07:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lots of electrons, it seems.

So far, we&#039;ve had;

Some kind of weird grass roots naming convention.
User Agent Strings in a browser.
Source tree folder names
Kernel version naming
A formal or ceremonial name.
Naming conventions from ancient Japan and China. 

(You claim this &quot;something SLASH something&quot; convention and piping were used in names then? &quot;Nurhaci/Manchu&quot; or &quot;Tokugawa&#124;Ieyasu&#124;Shogun&quot;?)

What&#039;s next? Increasingly horrified minds wish to know.

But here&#039;s the thing;

Its &quot;Android&quot;, not &quot;Android/Linux&quot;. No amount of hand-waving, tortured logic or frantic Googling will make this fact go away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of electrons, it seems.</p>
<p>So far, we&#8217;ve had;</p>
<p>Some kind of weird grass roots naming convention.<br />
User Agent Strings in a browser.<br />
Source tree folder names<br />
Kernel version naming<br />
A formal or ceremonial name.<br />
Naming conventions from ancient Japan and China. </p>
<p>(You claim this &#8220;something SLASH something&#8221; convention and piping were used in names then? &#8220;Nurhaci/Manchu&#8221; or &#8220;Tokugawa|Ieyasu|Shogun&#8221;?)</p>
<p>What&#8217;s next? Increasingly horrified minds wish to know.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s the thing;</p>
<p>Its &#8220;Android&#8221;, not &#8220;Android/Linux&#8221;. No amount of hand-waving, tortured logic or frantic Googling will make this fact go away.</p>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/19/remember-vista-incapable-here-comes-8-incapable/#comment-100921</link>
		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2012 00:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mongrol the two order of OS designations come from the global culture differences over where you place the items like Mr and -san before or after.

So the complete designation starts with how humans name each other altered to the computer world.  Even the &#124; appears used by some cultures before computers existed yes the &#124; evolves into / in computer usage.

So the base idea for why Android/Linux is valid is over 3000 years old.  Early china/Japan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mongrol the two order of OS designations come from the global culture differences over where you place the items like Mr and -san before or after.</p>
<p>So the complete designation starts with how humans name each other altered to the computer world.  Even the | appears used by some cultures before computers existed yes the | evolves into / in computer usage.</p>
<p>So the base idea for why Android/Linux is valid is over 3000 years old.  Early china/Japan.</p>
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