‘Welcome to super confusion. I meant exactly what I said. BA with Masters.’

I see that you are again falling back on Wikipedia to justify your pitiful understanding of the world around you.

I admire your audacity to try and lecture university graduates on how qualifications work, but the fact of the matter remains that there is no such thing as “BA with Masters”, not even according to that Wikipedia page. Rather, the table at the top explains to you very clearly right from the word “go” that there are three forms of Master’s programmes, and Bachelor degrees with honours are expressly placed at one level below it. Section 2.5 even states clearly that all of them are offered as standalone programmes to students who have completed their undergraduated courses (at Level 7 or 8). The only confusion, like the alleged confusion of B-tree, is one that exists only in your imaginary world. You are welcome, however, to raise your concern to the Australian Vice-Chancellors’ Committee, as I believe everyone needs a good laugh every now and again.

‘What you have to say doesn’t fly. Swapping working PCs for new PCs and paying for that other OS and M$’s applications and the applications of other “partners” doesn’t fly in education here because there are no funds for IT except for toner and the occasional failed parts.’

Where did I in anywhere here mention “swapping working PCs for new PCs”? The only thing I see here is a retired teacher/full-time horticulturalist who has achieved such a zen level of dishonesty that he can’t even feel any shame with such a transparent attempt to put words in one’s mouth.

Anyhow, the way I see the situation is that the only reason you were valued where you were was not because you were the top man for the job, but simply that there were barely a living being to compete for the same position in all those remote areas you mentioned. I can easily find dozens of contractors where I live that can make Windows fly with a tiny school budget, and if you can’t make it work, it’s your problem, not MS.

In other words, the only thing you have managed to conveyed to me is that your market value is only proportional to how many people are competing in the same labour market, and that simply doesn’t speak well with your actual ability to get things done.

No you need to read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Qualifications_Framework

Welcome to super confusion. I meant exactly what I said. BA with Masters. BA with honours is an extra 1 year or 2 at end of BA course. It is a 1 Year or 2 todo Masters and you can do both at exactly the same time. In fact your work for BA honours can be the same work for BA Masters qualification. Particularly if you take the research line for Honours on hard enough topic.

That Exploit Guy I did pass high school english with high enough grade to enter any University course.

–Students must have a 50% minimum in TER English (or equivalent)–

This equals a C in english. You don’t need to be brilliant in English. I got a B- in fact.

That Exploit Guy yes my english is what a passing grade in Australia can look like.

Remember at Uni I am allowed to have my work proof read and use grammar correcting software. No web browser has embedded grammar checking software.

–most of the time– Really that is correct. Unless I happen to be going near the university for some other reason I never go there. So most of the time is true.

What you have to say doesn’t fly. Swapping working PCs for new PCs and paying for that other OS and M$’s applications and the applications of other “partners” doesn’t fly in education here because there are no funds for IT except for toner and the occasional failed parts. Installations are usually random grants from government, about every ten years or so. I showed many schools how to get PCs for the cost of freight, say in the back of a truck making the run over the winter road anyway, and by using GNU/Linux there were no maintenance issues, no re-re-reboots and no malware. So, what you have to say is irrelevant. Further, real people with tons of IT budget and IT staff are finding the same things that work in the bush for me work for them. So, you are out to lunch. It is wise to judge a thing by its fruit. GNU/Linux does magic in education.

Interesting. It was “most of the time“. Now it’s “never”. You sure know how to makes things up as it sees fit, don’t you?

‘That Exploit Guy Australia is different. Its nothing strange to be 400 kms plus away from University.’

It’s called “distance learning” and it’s and extremely common thing around the world.

My landlord is a coordinator of one of these courses, and, no, he doesn’t mark papers with robots that exist only in oiaohm’s imagination.

‘So yes you can have a full BA with masters and never set foot in the University.’

Do you mean BA with honours?

Masters are usually offered on the basis of your existing qualifications but as courses separate from your undergraduate studies. There is no such thing as BA with masters.

Also, as far as I can see in the website, the only BA course of the IT category does not come with an honours program, nor there is any indication that any participating institute is offering honours study on top of their courses.

What I find even more interesting is that the course has its entrance requirements set almost entirely around English competency, which would put you in about the same position as a blind person trying to get a driver’s license in NSW.

http://www.open.edu.au/
Reality I never ever have to set foot in the University I am enrolled in. That Exploit Guy Australia is different. Its nothing strange to be 400 kms plus away from University. I don’t have to go to the University todo contact hours. Go to the nearest tafe at the time and schedule to use video conference link to the University counts.

This is a history expand of the Australian School of the Air for primary and high-school students.

As I said at that time I was 400 kms away from the University at that time. That is not the largest distance I have been away.

That Exploit Guy Australia is one of the few countries where you can enrol in a course on-line and travel around the country and never ever set foot in the University. You don’t even have to attend graduation. So yes you can have a full BA with masters and never set foot in the University.

Non Australian it shows. Australian University system is different to most.

That Exploit Guy
–And who exactly is going to care except Linux fanatics?–
Except universities don’t bother teaching something unless there is some commercial link somewhere.

‘Chris Weig but you normally don’t find them doing a course in Linux Desktop usage for old school Unix lab usage.’

And who exactly is going to care except Linux fanatics?

Also, please, don’t even bother trying to tell me your tall tale about travelling the equivalent of the distance between Sydney and Melbourne to fulfill your contact hours. You know no one is going to buy it, and I am just going to ignore it, so do yourself a favour and spare the world another thousand words of sweet nothing, mmmkay?

‘Typically teachers are fearful of ever opening a PC… The curriculums are usually happy if students can just name the parts of a PC. I had students shop for parts, specify them, install them, swap them and so forth. The curriculum is usually happy that students know how to turn on a PC. I showed students how to take them out of boxes and install OS, applications and parts and set up networks.’

This is just a gift that keeps on giving, isn’t it?

You do realise all you are proving is that the only reason you were valued where you were was that there was no one else who could switch on a computer to save his own life, right? As the old saying goes, “In a country of the blind the one-eyed man is the king.” Instead of insisting on being the self-parody that you are, why not just have some humility and listen to what other people have to say for once?

‘Students loved that I could get them credit for several courses at once because they could meet all the educational objectives with much less time and effort with GNU/Linux.’

“Students loved”, as told by the sole proprietor of the story-telling business here.

This is, of course, not to mention that the choice of operating systems has fundamentally nothing to do with anything you mentioned above. Rather, it just is that Windows will simply cause the teacher to refuse to teach anything based on purely ideological ground.

Am I correct?

The thing that is the problem here. Is a percentage of seats on all collage camps are Linux. So if the windows machines are full knowing how to use Linux means you can still get some of your work done.

The question for business is what percentage Windows do they require. Most cases is less than what they think.

Reading competence: zero. TEG wrote:

So are you telling your readers that you need “spies” to tell you such well-known fact that colleges do have Unix labs, …

In Germany, too, it would be indeed difficult to find a university/college without a Unix/Linux lab. The only ignorance then is to be found on your side, dougman. It’s the same ignorance that makes you sell anti-virus and anti-malware software to your — I use the word lightly here — customers.