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		<title>By: ram</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/12/thinking-inside-the-box/#comment-103235</link>
		<dc:creator>ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 03:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Governments buy expensive useless items for the same reason they have always bought useless expensive items: corruption, bribes, backsheesh, kickbacks ...

Some companies&#039; have based their entire marketing strategy on bribes and kickbacks.

The problem is not unique to software, look at almost any international arms dealer closely.  Without corruption their &#039;business&#039; would not exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Governments buy expensive useless items for the same reason they have always bought useless expensive items: corruption, bribes, backsheesh, kickbacks &#8230;</p>
<p>Some companies&#8217; have based their entire marketing strategy on bribes and kickbacks.</p>
<p>The problem is not unique to software, look at almost any international arms dealer closely.  Without corruption their &#8216;business&#8217; would not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: kozmcrae</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/12/thinking-inside-the-box/#comment-100107</link>
		<dc:creator>kozmcrae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 01:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oldman wrote:

&quot;Well I have an I can tell you that most of its so called best efforts are at lease 10 years behind what I use commercially.&quot;

Thanks for the update oldman.  I knew I could depend on you.  You know of course that the FLOSS ecosystem is huge.  You only need to find a few.  Few though they may be, FLOSS is not standing still.  It&#039;s growing with more commercial contributors adding to its ranks day by day.

It will be the way the World gets the majority of its software some day in the not to distant future.  You do know that, don&#039;t you oldman?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oldman wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Well I have an I can tell you that most of its so called best efforts are at lease 10 years behind what I use commercially.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks for the update oldman.  I knew I could depend on you.  You know of course that the FLOSS ecosystem is huge.  You only need to find a few.  Few though they may be, FLOSS is not standing still.  It&#8217;s growing with more commercial contributors adding to its ranks day by day.</p>
<p>It will be the way the World gets the majority of its software some day in the not to distant future.  You do know that, don&#8217;t you oldman?</p>
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		<title>By: oldman</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/12/thinking-inside-the-box/#comment-100088</link>
		<dc:creator>oldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 18:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Or get yourself a big honkin’ 4 CPU afterburner desktop computer and run Windows as a virtual machine like oldman does.&lt;/i&gt;


FYI I run windows native and linux in the VM Mr. K.  IMHO running linux in a VM also solves the hardware compatibility issues = - The hardware only changes if vmware stops supporting the virtual machine type that the linux instances run on, which hasn&#039;t happened yet.


&lt;i&gt;I think some people don’t really explore GNU/Linux enough and just assume that It doesn’t/can’t do some of the special things they need it to do. FLOSS is a big place and getting bigger and better by the day.&lt;/i&gt;

Well I have an I can tell you that most of its so called best efforts are at lease 10 years behind what I use  commercially.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Or get yourself a big honkin’ 4 CPU afterburner desktop computer and run Windows as a virtual machine like oldman does.</i></p>
<p>FYI I run windows native and linux in the VM Mr. K.  IMHO running linux in a VM also solves the hardware compatibility issues = &#8211; The hardware only changes if vmware stops supporting the virtual machine type that the linux instances run on, which hasn&#8217;t happened yet.</p>
<p><i>I think some people don’t really explore GNU/Linux enough and just assume that It doesn’t/can’t do some of the special things they need it to do. FLOSS is a big place and getting bigger and better by the day.</i></p>
<p>Well I have an I can tell you that most of its so called best efforts are at lease 10 years behind what I use  commercially.</p>
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		<title>By: Yonah</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/12/thinking-inside-the-box/#comment-100082</link>
		<dc:creator>Yonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Err, gigs of ram.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Err, gigs of ram.</p>
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		<title>By: Yonah</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/12/thinking-inside-the-box/#comment-100081</link>
		<dc:creator>Yonah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Own, License, Borrow, I don&#039;t care.  I can still use it until the cows come home, Silly Billy.

I purchased my computer back in the Spring of 2010.  I don&#039;t think it was that special at the time.  Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.34GHz with 4 megs of RAM.  It&#039;s always connected to the Internet.  On top of that, and this is really going to fry your taters, it&#039;s still running the original install of Windows from the very first day I brought it home.

&quot;Yonah, FREE software can be installed on computers running a FREE OS, didn’t you know?&quot;

Slow my computer down with FOSS?  Thanks, I&#039;ll pass.  Oh, here&#039;s the video you requested.  http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/BCBuIsATlBI/

I&#039;m not even going to bother trying to explain adjustment layers and layer styles to Oiaohm.  Frankly, I&#039;m more interested to know what James Randi would think of his Wi-Fi bending brain.  You up the the challenge, ol&#039; boy?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Own, License, Borrow, I don&#8217;t care.  I can still use it until the cows come home, Silly Billy.</p>
<p>I purchased my computer back in the Spring of 2010.  I don&#8217;t think it was that special at the time.  Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.34GHz with 4 megs of RAM.  It&#8217;s always connected to the Internet.  On top of that, and this is really going to fry your taters, it&#8217;s still running the original install of Windows from the very first day I brought it home.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yonah, FREE software can be installed on computers running a FREE OS, didn’t you know?&#8221;</p>
<p>Slow my computer down with FOSS?  Thanks, I&#8217;ll pass.  Oh, here&#8217;s the video you requested.  <a href="http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/BCBuIsATlBI/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/BCBuIsATlBI/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not even going to bother trying to explain adjustment layers and layer styles to Oiaohm.  Frankly, I&#8217;m more interested to know what James Randi would think of his Wi-Fi bending brain.  You up the the challenge, ol&#8217; boy?</p>
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		<title>By: kozmcrae</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/12/thinking-inside-the-box/#comment-99943</link>
		<dc:creator>kozmcrae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 13:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yonah wrote:

&quot;Windows already supports a massive plethora of commercial software which can readily be used with fiddling with compatibility programs like Wine.&quot;

Why bother going outside of the repository system?  Why complicate your GNU/Linux installation by making it more like a Windows installation?  If you really want or need all those Windows programs, just use Windows or setup a dual boot.  Or get yourself a big honkin&#039; 4 CPU afterburner desktop computer and run Windows as a virtual machine like oldman does.

I think some people don&#039;t really explore GNU/Linux enough and just assume that It doesn&#039;t/can&#039;t do some of the special things they need it to do.  FLOSS is a big place and getting bigger and better by the day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yonah wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Windows already supports a massive plethora of commercial software which can readily be used with fiddling with compatibility programs like Wine.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why bother going outside of the repository system?  Why complicate your GNU/Linux installation by making it more like a Windows installation?  If you really want or need all those Windows programs, just use Windows or setup a dual boot.  Or get yourself a big honkin&#8217; 4 CPU afterburner desktop computer and run Windows as a virtual machine like oldman does.</p>
<p>I think some people don&#8217;t really explore GNU/Linux enough and just assume that It doesn&#8217;t/can&#8217;t do some of the special things they need it to do.  FLOSS is a big place and getting bigger and better by the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/12/thinking-inside-the-box/#comment-99893</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dougman wrote, &lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;GIMP took 7 seconds on my Pentium D running Linux Mint 9.&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

One of the great things about GNU/Linux in a school or small organization is that it is easy to put performance like that to shame, with windows popping open in less than 2s with the files mostly cached on the terminal server and the client machine being used as a thin client. oldman and others like to pooh-pooh thin clients but they rock. My students were spoiled.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dougman wrote, <em><font color="green">&#8220;GIMP took 7 seconds on my Pentium D running Linux Mint 9.&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>One of the great things about GNU/Linux in a school or small organization is that it is easy to put performance like that to shame, with windows popping open in less than 2s with the files mostly cached on the terminal server and the client machine being used as a thin client. oldman and others like to pooh-pooh thin clients but they rock. My students were spoiled.</p>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/12/thinking-inside-the-box/#comment-99881</link>
		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 23:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yonah read the full line on scribus
--Adjustment layers and effect layers are not yet supported. In such a case, Scribus will fall back to using a &quot;flattened&quot; version of the file.--
It does not fail to open the file because it does not support those yet.

Notice I also mentioned krita.  Yes krita support OpenRaster that is a very much a format like psd.  I missed mypaint as well.

Yonah so its not that those features are missing you just don&#039;t have them when working with PSD or run into something in a PSD importer that glitches.  Yes krita and Mypaint in a lot of areas are ahead of gimp.

Exactly what is OpenRaster missing that you really need from PSD Yonah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yonah read the full line on scribus<br />
&#8211;Adjustment layers and effect layers are not yet supported. In such a case, Scribus will fall back to using a &#8220;flattened&#8221; version of the file.&#8211;<br />
It does not fail to open the file because it does not support those yet.</p>
<p>Notice I also mentioned krita.  Yes krita support OpenRaster that is a very much a format like psd.  I missed mypaint as well.</p>
<p>Yonah so its not that those features are missing you just don&#8217;t have them when working with PSD or run into something in a PSD importer that glitches.  Yes krita and Mypaint in a lot of areas are ahead of gimp.</p>
<p>Exactly what is OpenRaster missing that you really need from PSD Yonah.</p>
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		<title>By: dougman</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/12/thinking-inside-the-box/#comment-99874</link>
		<dc:creator>dougman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yonah, it is impossible that you own CS3, it is LICENSED to you. Same goes for any Windows software you purchase. You are purchasing a license to use, not to own. Silly Rabbit.

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/eula/photoshopcs3.html

Yonah, regarding starting Photoshop CS3, in 2.5 seconds. I say either upload a video to Youtube, or it never happened.  I’ll show you mine if you show me yours. 

GIMP took 7 seconds on my Pentium D running Linux Mint 9.

Inkscape, is just awesome! I use it for drawing stuff all the time. People think I am some sort of magical being at times, when I display some of my diagrams or single line diagrams I do for work.

Yonah, Windows 8 does not already support a massive plethora apps, there are only 2000+ currently available.

Yonahs, computer never reboots, nor does it get viruses/spyware ever, it suffers no form of lock-in. Yonah&#039;s fictional computer is never used nor is it ever connected to the Internet, now thats one safe computer!

Yonah, FREE software can be installed on computers running a FREE OS, didn&#039;t you know?

Chrissy,  you cannot do what you want with it your PC. Go ahead and try editing some files in system32; Windows will break if you attempted that. Remember, you don&#039;t own Windows software, you buy a license.

It&#039;s nice that you seem to think that Windows is just awesome enough for everyone, you&#039;re so nebulous to share, but you are just you, and not everyone else who wants to use better software than what M$ has to offer. 

I care about getting work accomplished — what’s important to me personally, not what is important to you — done with the tools I deem necessary and useful. I have no need or time to put up with M$ nonsense. Windows is for games, Linux is for serious work]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yonah, it is impossible that you own CS3, it is LICENSED to you. Same goes for any Windows software you purchase. You are purchasing a license to use, not to own. Silly Rabbit.</p>
<p><a href="http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/eula/photoshopcs3.html" rel="nofollow">http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/eula/photoshopcs3.html</a></p>
<p>Yonah, regarding starting Photoshop CS3, in 2.5 seconds. I say either upload a video to Youtube, or it never happened.  I’ll show you mine if you show me yours. </p>
<p>GIMP took 7 seconds on my Pentium D running Linux Mint 9.</p>
<p>Inkscape, is just awesome! I use it for drawing stuff all the time. People think I am some sort of magical being at times, when I display some of my diagrams or single line diagrams I do for work.</p>
<p>Yonah, Windows 8 does not already support a massive plethora apps, there are only 2000+ currently available.</p>
<p>Yonahs, computer never reboots, nor does it get viruses/spyware ever, it suffers no form of lock-in. Yonah&#8217;s fictional computer is never used nor is it ever connected to the Internet, now thats one safe computer!</p>
<p>Yonah, FREE software can be installed on computers running a FREE OS, didn&#8217;t you know?</p>
<p>Chrissy,  you cannot do what you want with it your PC. Go ahead and try editing some files in system32; Windows will break if you attempted that. Remember, you don&#8217;t own Windows software, you buy a license.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice that you seem to think that Windows is just awesome enough for everyone, you&#8217;re so nebulous to share, but you are just you, and not everyone else who wants to use better software than what M$ has to offer. </p>
<p>I care about getting work accomplished — what’s important to me personally, not what is important to you — done with the tools I deem necessary and useful. I have no need or time to put up with M$ nonsense. Windows is for games, Linux is for serious work</p>
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		<title>By: Average User</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/10/12/thinking-inside-the-box/#comment-99870</link>
		<dc:creator>Average User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Average User, Gimp 2.8.2 takes 4.5 seconds to load on my machine. Photoshop CS3, 2.5 seconds. Who made your computer? Fisher Price?&quot;

Bwaahaahaahaa! I had to clean my screen after that, LOL. Still in fantasy land, eh Yonah?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Average User, Gimp 2.8.2 takes 4.5 seconds to load on my machine. Photoshop CS3, 2.5 seconds. Who made your computer? Fisher Price?&#8221;</p>
<p>Bwaahaahaahaa! I had to clean my screen after that, LOL. Still in fantasy land, eh Yonah?</p>
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