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	<title>Comments on: Cloud Growing 91% Per Annum in China</title>
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		<title>By: dougman</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/09/04/cloud-growing-91-per-annum-in-china/#comment-95361</link>
		<dc:creator>dougman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 15:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are two large data-centers going up, one is located in Utah, the other in Maryland. All communications is recorded these days, and categorized for later retrieval if needed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/opinion/the-national-security-agencys-domestic-spying-program.html?_r=3&amp;smid=fb-share?smid=yt-nytimes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-3K3rkPRE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two large data-centers going up, one is located in Utah, the other in Maryland. All communications is recorded these days, and categorized for later retrieval if needed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/opinion/the-national-security-agencys-domestic-spying-program.html?_r=3&#038;smid=fb-share?smid=yt-nytimes" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/23/opinion/the-national-security-agencys-domestic-spying-program.html?_r=3&#038;smid=fb-share?smid=yt-nytimes</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phenom wrote, &lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;The cloud does not necessarily means thin-clients, Mr. Pogson.&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

There are all kinds of stuff that can be put in the clouds: storage, computation, applications... What is left for the local PC? Just showing pix and sending clicks, what a thin client does. Granted most PCs are more general-purpose but the tendency is to move almost everything to thin clients: VDI, terminal server+thin client, cloud... all shift stuff from the local machine to the server for various reasons including saving cost, better performance, easier management, security, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phenom wrote, <em><font color="green">&#8220;The cloud does not necessarily means thin-clients, Mr. Pogson.&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>There are all kinds of stuff that can be put in the clouds: storage, computation, applications&#8230; What is left for the local PC? Just showing pix and sending clicks, what a thin client does. Granted most PCs are more general-purpose but the tendency is to move almost everything to thin clients: VDI, terminal server+thin client, cloud&#8230; all shift stuff from the local machine to the server for various reasons including saving cost, better performance, easier management, security, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[iLia wrote, &lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;government can get access to your files without you permission or even awareness about such intrusion.

So if you trust Microsoft, Google, Chines government, Canonical you can store in the cloud whatever you want,&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.

If you think governments have nothing better to do than spy on their people these days, I have a bridge in NYC that I can sell you, cheap. Governments, while often being huge organizations, are tiny compared to the mountain of IT in most countries. They already have power to tax, search and seize. What more do you think they could get from IT? Central control of anything is fragile, including government so most governments find it easier to do what&#039;s necessary rather than everything. Even the so-called &quot;communist/socialist&quot; governments have found it pragmatic to let Nature take its course in many ways. It&#039;s easier to change a government than to control a country.

I don&#039;t trust M$. They have the stated purpose to run all of IT by any means legal or not and they stink at whatever they try.

Governments are becoming more open and the cartel of power at the centres are diffusing. There are exceptions but they tend to by tiny countries in a lot of chaos.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iLia wrote, <em><font color="green">&#8220;government can get access to your files without you permission or even awareness about such intrusion.</p>
<p>So if you trust Microsoft, Google, Chines government, Canonical you can store in the cloud whatever you want,&#8221;</font></em>.</p>
<p>If you think governments have nothing better to do than spy on their people these days, I have a bridge in NYC that I can sell you, cheap. Governments, while often being huge organizations, are tiny compared to the mountain of IT in most countries. They already have power to tax, search and seize. What more do you think they could get from IT? Central control of anything is fragile, including government so most governments find it easier to do what&#8217;s necessary rather than everything. Even the so-called &#8220;communist/socialist&#8221; governments have found it pragmatic to let Nature take its course in many ways. It&#8217;s easier to change a government than to control a country.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust M$. They have the stated purpose to run all of IT by any means legal or not and they stink at whatever they try.</p>
<p>Governments are becoming more open and the cartel of power at the centres are diffusing. There are exceptions but they tend to by tiny countries in a lot of chaos.</p>
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		<title>By: Phenom</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/09/04/cloud-growing-91-per-annum-in-china/#comment-95353</link>
		<dc:creator>Phenom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many businesses - lawyers offices, insurance companies, banks, accountants, financial auditors - are not exactly eager to grasp the idea of the cloud.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many businesses &#8211; lawyers offices, insurance companies, banks, accountants, financial auditors &#8211; are not exactly eager to grasp the idea of the cloud.</p>
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		<title>By: iLia</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/09/04/cloud-growing-91-per-annum-in-china/#comment-95347</link>
		<dc:creator>iLia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:07:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cloud actually means one simple thing -- &lt;b&gt;full governmental control over IT&lt;/b&gt; -- government can shot it down whenever they like, government can get access to your files without you permission or even awareness about such intrusion.

So if you trust Microsoft, Google, Chines government, Canonical you can store in the cloud whatever you want, but don&#039;t care anymore about such things as privacy, you will have none.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cloud actually means one simple thing &#8212; <b>full governmental control over IT</b> &#8212; government can shot it down whenever they like, government can get access to your files without you permission or even awareness about such intrusion.</p>
<p>So if you trust Microsoft, Google, Chines government, Canonical you can store in the cloud whatever you want, but don&#8217;t care anymore about such things as privacy, you will have none.</p>
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		<title>By: Phenom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phenom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The cloud does not necessarily means thin-clients, Mr. Pogson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cloud does not necessarily means thin-clients, Mr. Pogson.</p>
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