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		<title>By: ch</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/22/gmail-about-to-become-1-in-europe/#comment-94352</link>
		<dc:creator>ch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 10:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I dropped Hotmail long ago for Gmail, after the spam became ridiculous and I suspect that this new domain will be more of the same.&quot;

As I mentioned before, my secondary (&quot;toy&quot;) account is on Hotmail, and it&#039;s surprizingly spam-free. Which most definitively couldn&#039;t be said about the freemailer I tried before :-(]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I dropped Hotmail long ago for Gmail, after the spam became ridiculous and I suspect that this new domain will be more of the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I mentioned before, my secondary (&#8220;toy&#8221;) account is on Hotmail, and it&#8217;s surprizingly spam-free. Which most definitively couldn&#8217;t be said about the freemailer I tried before <img src='http://mrpogson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Brillo</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/22/gmail-about-to-become-1-in-europe/#comment-94313</link>
		<dc:creator>Brillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@PR

&lt;b&gt;No. I mean like security and price/performance. &lt;/b&gt;

You mean &lt;i&gt;assumed&lt;/i&gt; security and &lt;i&gt;placebo&lt;/i&gt; performance per price?

Of course, without any proper &lt;i&gt;quantifications&lt;/i&gt;, one can always claim just about anything with a bit of creative writing.

@dougman

&lt;b&gt;Doubtless none of these three grabbed their addresses with ill intentions, but the fact that they were able to claim them suggests that Outlook.com may be a wide-open market for spammers, cybersquatters, phishers, and anyone else who wants to send deceptive emails.&lt;/b&gt;

Setting aside that &quot;cybersquatting&quot; an email account means jack squat and spamming/phishing would involve mass-mailing attempts easily distinguishable from normal email traffic, a much easier way to fake an email address would be to simply &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wikihow.com/Forge-Email&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forge a header&lt;/a&gt; with false imformation. Didn&#039;t your over a decade of &quot;experience&quot; tell you anything about that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@PR</p>
<p><b>No. I mean like security and price/performance. </b></p>
<p>You mean <i>assumed</i> security and <i>placebo</i> performance per price?</p>
<p>Of course, without any proper <i>quantifications</i>, one can always claim just about anything with a bit of creative writing.</p>
<p>@dougman</p>
<p><b>Doubtless none of these three grabbed their addresses with ill intentions, but the fact that they were able to claim them suggests that Outlook.com may be a wide-open market for spammers, cybersquatters, phishers, and anyone else who wants to send deceptive emails.</b></p>
<p>Setting aside that &#8220;cybersquatting&#8221; an email account means jack squat and spamming/phishing would involve mass-mailing attempts easily distinguishable from normal email traffic, a much easier way to fake an email address would be to simply <a href="http://www.wikihow.com/Forge-Email" rel="nofollow">forge a header</a> with false imformation. Didn&#8217;t your over a decade of &#8220;experience&#8221; tell you anything about that?</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Moon</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/22/gmail-about-to-become-1-in-europe/#comment-94312</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;You don’t see M$ trumpeting ads that their OS has less malware than GNU/Linux or costs less than $0.&lt;/b&gt;

Of course you don&#039;t see such ads from Linux vendors either.  Come to think about it, you don&#039;t see any ads from Linux vendors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>You don’t see M$ trumpeting ads that their OS has less malware than GNU/Linux or costs less than $0.</b></p>
<p>Of course you don&#8217;t see such ads from Linux vendors either.  Come to think about it, you don&#8217;t see any ads from Linux vendors.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Weig</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/22/gmail-about-to-become-1-in-europe/#comment-94305</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Weig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who cares? Did someone force you at gunpoint to use Hotmail? It&#039;s just another FUD article from the &quot;anything but Microsoft&quot; hate machine. Only a brainless hater could diss Microsoft&#039;s Hotmail/Outlook while at the same time he promotes Google Mail whose amassing and usage of personal data is on par with Facebook.

For the record, I pay for my email service. It works for me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares? Did someone force you at gunpoint to use Hotmail? It&#8217;s just another FUD article from the &#8220;anything but Microsoft&#8221; hate machine. Only a brainless hater could diss Microsoft&#8217;s Hotmail/Outlook while at the same time he promotes Google Mail whose amassing and usage of personal data is on par with Facebook.</p>
<p>For the record, I pay for my email service. It works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 16:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phenom wrote, &lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;you mean like gaming consoles? Or server OSes? Or Office suits? Or databases?&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

No. I mean like security and price/performance. You don&#039;t see M$ trumpeting ads that their OS has less malware than GNU/Linux or costs less than $0.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phenom wrote, <em><font color="green">&#8220;you mean like gaming consoles? Or server OSes? Or Office suits? Or databases?&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>No. I mean like security and price/performance. You don&#8217;t see M$ trumpeting ads that their OS has less malware than GNU/Linux or costs less than $0.</p>
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		<title>By: Conzo</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/22/gmail-about-to-become-1-in-europe/#comment-94281</link>
		<dc:creator>Conzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the record, I never bothered with either gmail or hotmail throughout my life of being a private and professional Windows user, and a professional and occasionally private Linux user (still Arch as my favorite ... bring on the hate, I&#039;ll eat it for breakfast *chuckle*)

I don&#039;t remember how I found it, and I have no clue how and what they are as a company, but I&#039;m quite happy with inbox.com, and my ancient yahoo.co.uk account is surprisingly still useful.

But then, I&#039;m a compulsive hipster ... see my horn-rimmed glasses? :D

toodlepip (the .com variant of which is an actual free email provider ... don&#039;t ask) and cheerio.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, I never bothered with either gmail or hotmail throughout my life of being a private and professional Windows user, and a professional and occasionally private Linux user (still Arch as my favorite &#8230; bring on the hate, I&#8217;ll eat it for breakfast *chuckle*)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember how I found it, and I have no clue how and what they are as a company, but I&#8217;m quite happy with inbox.com, and my ancient yahoo.co.uk account is surprisingly still useful.</p>
<p>But then, I&#8217;m a compulsive hipster &#8230; see my horn-rimmed glasses? <img src='http://mrpogson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>toodlepip (the .com variant of which is an actual free email provider &#8230; don&#8217;t ask) and cheerio.</p>
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		<title>By: Phenom</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/22/gmail-about-to-become-1-in-europe/#comment-94277</link>
		<dc:creator>Phenom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;M$ has a policy of not engaging an enemy’s strong points. &lt;/b&gt;

Eh, do you mean like gaming consoles?  Or server OSes?  Or Office suits?  Or databases?  Or development tools?  Gosh, these became way too many.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>M$ has a policy of not engaging an enemy’s strong points. </b></p>
<p>Eh, do you mean like gaming consoles?  Or server OSes?  Or Office suits?  Or databases?  Or development tools?  Gosh, these became way too many.</p>
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		<title>By: dougman</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/22/gmail-about-to-become-1-in-europe/#comment-94275</link>
		<dc:creator>dougman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Started using Hotmail in the late 90s. I dropped Hotmail long ago for Gmail, after the spam became ridiculous and I suspect that this new domain will be more of the same.

&lt;i&gt;Microsoft seems to have been particularly lax about withholding certain addresses from circulation. One PC Pro staffer managed to grab steveballmer@outlook.com, but that&#039;s not the worst of it.

&quot;I&#039;m now the &#039;proud&#039; owner of post.master@outlook.com,&quot; writes Reg reader &quot;graeme_from_it&quot;. And he&#039;s not alone. There&#039;s also Ross Duggan, owner of no-reply@outlook.com; Ryan Hoffman, who nabbed donotreply@outlook.com; and who knows how many more.

Doubtless none of these three grabbed their addresses with ill intentions, but the fact that they were able to claim them suggests that Outlook.com may be a wide-open market for spammers, cybersquatters, phishers, and anyone else who wants to send deceptive emails.

One million accounts and counting, Outlook.com still has a long way to go before it can match Gmail&#039;s reported 420 million accounts.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Started using Hotmail in the late 90s. I dropped Hotmail long ago for Gmail, after the spam became ridiculous and I suspect that this new domain will be more of the same.</p>
<p><i>Microsoft seems to have been particularly lax about withholding certain addresses from circulation. One PC Pro staffer managed to grab <a href="mailto:steveballmer@outlook.com">steveballmer@outlook.com</a>, but that&#8217;s not the worst of it.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m now the &#8216;proud&#8217; owner of <a href="mailto:post.master@outlook.com">post.master@outlook.com</a>,&#8221; writes Reg reader &#8220;graeme_from_it&#8221;. And he&#8217;s not alone. There&#8217;s also Ross Duggan, owner of <a href="mailto:no-reply@outlook.com">no-reply@outlook.com</a>; Ryan Hoffman, who nabbed <a href="mailto:donotreply@outlook.com">donotreply@outlook.com</a>; and who knows how many more.</p>
<p>Doubtless none of these three grabbed their addresses with ill intentions, but the fact that they were able to claim them suggests that Outlook.com may be a wide-open market for spammers, cybersquatters, phishers, and anyone else who wants to send deceptive emails.</p>
<p>One million accounts and counting, Outlook.com still has a long way to go before it can match Gmail&#8217;s reported 420 million accounts.</i></p>
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