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		<title>By: Brillo</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/17/luxembourg-governmental-floss/#comment-94230</link>
		<dc:creator>Brillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t done -&gt; I haven&#039;t]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t done -&gt; I haven&#8217;t</p>
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		<title>By: Brillo</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/17/luxembourg-governmental-floss/#comment-94229</link>
		<dc:creator>Brillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 21:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Or is it just more innuendo/FUD/garbage?&lt;/b&gt;

Is stating that &quot;&lt;i&gt;you were a member that might or might have contributed anything significant to VMEbus&quot; innuendo/FUD/garbage? Well, seeing your reluctance to show me what you have actually done in that committee, I am pretty sure that is a legitimate doubt rather than mere insinuation. Besides, innuendo/FUD/garbage are more your favorite spiels than mine anyway (as immediately observable in this blog).

In case I haven&#039;t done made this clear:

Garbage: Insinuating that your opposition is try to discredit the committe you participated in rather than your person despite &lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;clear&lt;/i&gt; clarification.

Not garbage: Pointing out the fact that you have never shown you actual possess any genuine knowledge in any relevant subject matter, be it ethernet, VMEbus, AD, or anything having been mentioned or discussed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Or is it just more innuendo/FUD/garbage?</b></p>
<p>Is stating that &#8220;<i>you were a member that might or might have contributed anything significant to VMEbus&#8221; innuendo/FUD/garbage? Well, seeing your reluctance to show me what you have actually done in that committee, I am pretty sure that is a legitimate doubt rather than mere insinuation. Besides, innuendo/FUD/garbage are more your favorite spiels than mine anyway (as immediately observable in this blog).</p>
<p>In case I haven&#8217;t done made this clear:</p>
<p>Garbage: Insinuating that your opposition is try to discredit the committe you participated in rather than your person despite </i><i>clear</i> clarification.</p>
<p>Not garbage: Pointing out the fact that you have never shown you actual possess any genuine knowledge in any relevant subject matter, be it ethernet, VMEbus, AD, or anything having been mentioned or discussed.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/17/luxembourg-governmental-floss/#comment-94205</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brillo wrote, &lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;Just to clarify:

a member of the committee -&gt; a member&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

And what are you &quot;clarifying&quot;?

&lt;img src=&quot;http://mrpogson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Pogson_P1014.jpeg&quot; width=&quot;262&quot; height=&quot;200&quot;  /&gt;

Or is it just more innuendo/FUD/garbage?

see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ieee.org/about/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IEEE.org&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;IEEE is the world’s largest professional association dedicated to advancing technological innovation and excellence for the benefit of humanity. IEEE and its members inspire a global community through IEEE&#039;s highly cited publications, conferences, technology standards, and professional and educational activities.&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;WHO CAN PARTICPATE?

Working Groups are open groups. They are comprised of individuals for individual standards projects or representatives from entities (such as corporations, government agencies or academic institutions) for corporate standards projects. All participating in working groups have technical expertise, knowledge and dedicated interest in the technology being standardized in the standard.

Working Groups meet and make technical decisions in the process of developing standards. Those participating in working groups have strong technical knowledge and expertise in the subject matter of the standard project, and understand and respect diverse points of view. Individuals and corporations in working groups work collaboratively to reach consensus in order to move the project to sponsor ballot and ultimately IEEE Standards Board approval.&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;
see &lt;a href=&quot;http://standards.ieee.org/develop/participate.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://standards.ieee.org/develop/participate.html&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;WHAT IS A WORKING GROUP?

With PAR approval, a Working Group is defined and it can officially begin its work to develop or write the standard. In short, Working Groups work to create and write the standard. Working Groups are open to anyone to participate. For individual standards projects, IEEE or IEEE-SA membership is not required to participate. For corporate standards projects, IEEE-SA corporate membership is required. Overall, Working Groups strive for broad representation of all interested parties and encourage global participation.

In the spirit of openness, agendas for Working Group meetings are distributed beforehand and the results of the group’s deliberations are publicly available, usually through meeting minutes. Working Groups have a chairperson who facilitates the group discussions and offers leadership and guidance to the Working Group. He/she also serves as the contact person for technical questions about the standard.&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

see &lt;a href=&quot;http://standards.ieee.org/develop/wg.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://standards.ieee.org/develop/wg.html&lt;/a&gt;

I am not sure whether or not the process has evolved since the 1980s but I was a member of the IEEE and you had to be competent to join. I had to be sponsored by two or more members of the IEEE who knew my work. My sponsors were two from the Department of Physics where I worked and one from the Department of Engineering with whom I had consulted on Finite Element Analysis which was hot in those days. Believe it or not particle accelerator physics and nuclear physics are challenging technical areas of human endeavour and I thrived in that environment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brillo wrote, <em><font color="green">&#8220;Just to clarify:</p>
<p>a member of the committee -> a member&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>And what are you &#8220;clarifying&#8221;?</p>
<p><img src="http://mrpogson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Pogson_P1014.jpeg" width="262" height="200"  /></p>
<p>Or is it just more innuendo/FUD/garbage?</p>
<p>see <a href="http://www.ieee.org/about/index.html" rel="nofollow">IEEE.org</a><br />
<em><font color="green">&#8220;IEEE is the world’s largest professional association dedicated to advancing technological innovation and excellence for the benefit of humanity. IEEE and its members inspire a global community through IEEE&#8217;s highly cited publications, conferences, technology standards, and professional and educational activities.&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p><em><font color="green">&#8220;WHO CAN PARTICPATE?</p>
<p>Working Groups are open groups. They are comprised of individuals for individual standards projects or representatives from entities (such as corporations, government agencies or academic institutions) for corporate standards projects. All participating in working groups have technical expertise, knowledge and dedicated interest in the technology being standardized in the standard.</p>
<p>Working Groups meet and make technical decisions in the process of developing standards. Those participating in working groups have strong technical knowledge and expertise in the subject matter of the standard project, and understand and respect diverse points of view. Individuals and corporations in working groups work collaboratively to reach consensus in order to move the project to sponsor ballot and ultimately IEEE Standards Board approval.&#8221;</font></em><br />
see <a href="http://standards.ieee.org/develop/participate.html" rel="nofollow">http://standards.ieee.org/develop/participate.html</a></p>
<p><em><font color="green">&#8220;WHAT IS A WORKING GROUP?</p>
<p>With PAR approval, a Working Group is defined and it can officially begin its work to develop or write the standard. In short, Working Groups work to create and write the standard. Working Groups are open to anyone to participate. For individual standards projects, IEEE or IEEE-SA membership is not required to participate. For corporate standards projects, IEEE-SA corporate membership is required. Overall, Working Groups strive for broad representation of all interested parties and encourage global participation.</p>
<p>In the spirit of openness, agendas for Working Group meetings are distributed beforehand and the results of the group’s deliberations are publicly available, usually through meeting minutes. Working Groups have a chairperson who facilitates the group discussions and offers leadership and guidance to the Working Group. He/she also serves as the contact person for technical questions about the standard.&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>see <a href="http://standards.ieee.org/develop/wg.html" rel="nofollow">http://standards.ieee.org/develop/wg.html</a></p>
<p>I am not sure whether or not the process has evolved since the 1980s but I was a member of the IEEE and you had to be competent to join. I had to be sponsored by two or more members of the IEEE who knew my work. My sponsors were two from the Department of Physics where I worked and one from the Department of Engineering with whom I had consulted on Finite Element Analysis which was hot in those days. Believe it or not particle accelerator physics and nuclear physics are challenging technical areas of human endeavour and I thrived in that environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Brillo</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/17/luxembourg-governmental-floss/#comment-94197</link>
		<dc:creator>Brillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just to clarify:

a member of the committee -&gt; a member]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to clarify:</p>
<p>a member of the committee -&gt; a member</p>
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		<title>By: Brillo</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/17/luxembourg-governmental-floss/#comment-94188</link>
		<dc:creator>Brillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 10:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;I was a member of the IEEE committee that standardized VMEbus in the 1980s.&lt;/b&gt;

So you were a member of the committee that might or might have contributed anything significant to VMEbus.

There were (and still are) a &lt;i&gt;lot&lt;/i&gt; of things going on in TCMM, you know?

&lt;b&gt;I wrote peer-reviewed articles about data-collection and analysis, patent applications&lt;/b&gt;

So you have proven yourself worthy to use one of these &lt;a href=&quot;http://sine.ni.com/module-selector/app/module_selector?platform=usb&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;boxes&lt;/a&gt; i.e. an equivalent of a science undergraduate. That&#039;s cute.

&lt;b&gt;I designed complete IT systems for schools&lt;/b&gt;

You are beginning to repeat yourself like a broken record, don&#039;t you think?

You are stumped by a multiplexed communication protocol (ethernet). Your solutions are duct-tape-and-spit hobbyist monstrosities. Not a single sentence from the recounts of your stories shows even a shred of knowledge in things you &lt;i&gt;claim&lt;/i&gt; to understand. What else anyone here need to know?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I was a member of the IEEE committee that standardized VMEbus in the 1980s.</b></p>
<p>So you were a member of the committee that might or might have contributed anything significant to VMEbus.</p>
<p>There were (and still are) a <i>lot</i> of things going on in TCMM, you know?</p>
<p><b>I wrote peer-reviewed articles about data-collection and analysis, patent applications</b></p>
<p>So you have proven yourself worthy to use one of these <a href="http://sine.ni.com/module-selector/app/module_selector?platform=usb" rel="nofollow">boxes</a> i.e. an equivalent of a science undergraduate. That&#8217;s cute.</p>
<p><b>I designed complete IT systems for schools</b></p>
<p>You are beginning to repeat yourself like a broken record, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>You are stumped by a multiplexed communication protocol (ethernet). Your solutions are duct-tape-and-spit hobbyist monstrosities. Not a single sentence from the recounts of your stories shows even a shred of knowledge in things you <i>claim</i> to understand. What else anyone here need to know?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/17/luxembourg-governmental-floss/#comment-94179</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2012 03:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brillo wrote, &lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;Many office clerks have been using IT since 80/90s (and would have covered mainframe, mini-, micro- and networked computers for the 80s folks). should I regard them as “educated” on the subject matter as well?&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

I was a member of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://wenku.baidu.com/view/bef6e60979563c1ec5da7155.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IEEE committee that standardized VMEbus in the 1980s&lt;/a&gt;. I wrote peer-reviewed articles about data-collection and analysis, patent applications, and I designed complete IT systems for schools. I was not just a user of IT but a creator.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brillo wrote, <em><font color="green">&#8220;Many office clerks have been using IT since 80/90s (and would have covered mainframe, mini-, micro- and networked computers for the 80s folks). should I regard them as “educated” on the subject matter as well?&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>I was a member of the <a href="http://wenku.baidu.com/view/bef6e60979563c1ec5da7155.html" rel="nofollow">IEEE committee that standardized VMEbus in the 1980s</a>. I wrote peer-reviewed articles about data-collection and analysis, patent applications, and I designed complete IT systems for schools. I was not just a user of IT but a creator.</p>
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		<title>By: oldman</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/17/luxembourg-governmental-floss/#comment-94173</link>
		<dc:creator>oldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If you have not worked out is also keeps us up with current hardware configurations. My management is not stupid Oldman. Somehow I think yours is. Since my machines are spare parts they get upgraded a lot more regularly than any other machine in the business. Also means our IT machines will normally hit any of the hardware defects first. So the quality of service to everyone not IT is improved.&quot;

Exactly what hardware are you more up to date on Hamster that I don&#039;t have. Solid state drives? Got em. multicore ARM chips - useless on a personal level to someone whose management is more concerned with getting creds to do electrical work. Large memory.  In short sir, there is NOTHING that you have shown that justifys an update cycle so short that you have to work with spare parts, especially if the majority of what you are doing is physical construction jobbing.


My desktop can be expanded to 192Gb of RAM My portable Has 32Gb of RAM. so that I can do multi segmented routed network simulations involving a dozen virtual machines including virtual DNS/DHCP server.

Of course none of this will impress the great Hamster with his 12 year old custom rig, yet it still remains what I do and what I am paid well for.


&quot;You have worked in education for far too long Oldman you need to get out in commercial and experience some of the other operating models.&quot;

I&#039;ve been out there and I&#039;ve seen and work with people who are in commercial companies, many multinational. 

I and I have no problem telling you Mr. hameless nym, that you are full of sh-t for the word go!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you have not worked out is also keeps us up with current hardware configurations. My management is not stupid Oldman. Somehow I think yours is. Since my machines are spare parts they get upgraded a lot more regularly than any other machine in the business. Also means our IT machines will normally hit any of the hardware defects first. So the quality of service to everyone not IT is improved.&#8221;</p>
<p>Exactly what hardware are you more up to date on Hamster that I don&#8217;t have. Solid state drives? Got em. multicore ARM chips &#8211; useless on a personal level to someone whose management is more concerned with getting creds to do electrical work. Large memory.  In short sir, there is NOTHING that you have shown that justifys an update cycle so short that you have to work with spare parts, especially if the majority of what you are doing is physical construction jobbing.</p>
<p>My desktop can be expanded to 192Gb of RAM My portable Has 32Gb of RAM. so that I can do multi segmented routed network simulations involving a dozen virtual machines including virtual DNS/DHCP server.</p>
<p>Of course none of this will impress the great Hamster with his 12 year old custom rig, yet it still remains what I do and what I am paid well for.</p>
<p>&#8220;You have worked in education for far too long Oldman you need to get out in commercial and experience some of the other operating models.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been out there and I&#8217;ve seen and work with people who are in commercial companies, many multinational. </p>
<p>I and I have no problem telling you Mr. hameless nym, that you are full of sh-t for the word go!</p>
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		<title>By: oldman</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/17/luxembourg-governmental-floss/#comment-94170</link>
		<dc:creator>oldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Thing is since I can build I get the newest of the new.&quot; 

So how does a hundred core tilera chip help you in fixing those fences?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thing is since I can build I get the newest of the new.&#8221; </p>
<p>So how does a hundred core tilera chip help you in fixing those fences?</p>
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		<title>By: Brillo</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/17/luxembourg-governmental-floss/#comment-94169</link>
		<dc:creator>Brillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;And there you have it.&lt;/b&gt;

For someone who can&#039;t tell the difference between hardware (wiring) issues and software (OS) issues, he sure makes more noise than his fair share, doesn&#039;t he?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>And there you have it.</b></p>
<p>For someone who can&#8217;t tell the difference between hardware (wiring) issues and software (OS) issues, he sure makes more noise than his fair share, doesn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: Brillo</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/08/17/luxembourg-governmental-floss/#comment-94168</link>
		<dc:creator>Brillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2012 13:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;I have been using IT since 1968. You be sure I have an educated opinion about IT.&lt;/b&gt;

Many office clerks have been using IT since 80/90s (and would have covered mainframe, mini-, micro- and networked computers for the 80s folks). should I regard them as &quot;educated&quot; on the subject matter as well?

Delusions of grandeur are a common symptom among backyard handymen, I am afraid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I have been using IT since 1968. You be sure I have an educated opinion about IT.</b></p>
<p>Many office clerks have been using IT since 80/90s (and would have covered mainframe, mini-, micro- and networked computers for the 80s folks). should I regard them as &#8220;educated&#8221; on the subject matter as well?</p>
<p>Delusions of grandeur are a common symptom among backyard handymen, I am afraid.</p>
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