You know FLOSS has become mainstream when the local newspaper touts FLOSS…
The Winnipeg Free Press reported a wire news service article with these snippets on OS usage in global smart phone shipments:
“— Android (Google Inc.) — 104.8 million units, 68.1 per cent share (46.9 per cent a year earlier)
— Windows (Microsoft Corp.) — 5.4 million units, 3.5 per cent share (2.3 per cent a year earlier)”
Chuckle… The message is clear for hundreds of thousands of ordinary people in a city of 700K people, the world can make its own OS and does not need M$. Can the end of monopoly on the desktop be far?
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You know FLOSS has become mainstream when the local newspaper touts FLOSS…
I didn’t see any mention of “FLOSS” or any of its synonyms anywhere in that cite, Mr. Pogson. Do you suppose they are missing the issue at hand? Are they just keeping score as to what platform is on phones without realizing the socal reformation potential there? Why did no one comment on the article and vote it up onto social media? Could it be that next to no one cares?
Obviously this article raises more questions than it answers.
I know of one company that dumped its Blackberry server and its phones and told its employees to just buy Android phones as they would subsidize them for $50/month.
Windows Phoney 7?…what’s that? I’ve never seen one used in the business realm.
Stop the press!
Local newspaper prints AP article to fill up their pages.
I’m also not seeing an Science & Technology editor here. In fact, almost all of their articles in Science & Technology seem to be from other sources.
Mr. Pogson, really, trying to mislead your audience again.
Clarence Moon wrote, “I didn’t see any mention of “FLOSS” or any of its synonyms anywhere in that cite,”
Android/Linux, twit. It’s not that other OS, iOS, MacOS or anything but FLOSS. Quoting Wikipedia:
“Android is a Linux-based operating system primarily designed for mobile devices such as smartphones and tablet computers utilizing ARM processors.
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Google releases the Android code as open-source, under the Apache License.
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The source code for Android is available under free and open source software licenses. Google publishes most of the code (including network and telephony stacks)[127] under the Apache License version 2.0,[128][129][130] and the rest, Linux kernel changes, under the GNU General Public License version 2.”
…so there…
It’s called Android, Mr. Pogson. Android/Linux is not its proper name. Its development process is also not openly collaborative, as FLOSS kind of demands. Android is developed exclusively internally at Google, and the source code is only released afterwards. So the whole Bazaar thing isn’t really going on here.
Quoting Wikipedia:
Good grief, Mr. Pogson, who said anything about Wikipedia? Certainly not the Winnepeg Free Press. You announce that “the local newspaper touts FLOSS” but fail to deliver any such thing. Nothing about FLOSS and nothing touted, either. You are clutching for straws here.
I’ve never seen one used in the business realm.
I have. Perhaps your business, which apparently consists of preying on the Windows folk who have the misfortune to come your way in need of help with their computers, isn’t broad enough. Maybe they people you meet are just reluctant to use their phones in your presence, fearing that you might overhear their conversations.
Clarence Moon, having heard nothing about search on the web in his cave, wrote, “who said anything about Wikipedia? “
Chris Weig wrote:
“It’s called Android, Mr. Pogson. Android/Linux is not its proper name.”
Disassociating Linux from Android is an obsession with the Cult of Microsoft. Oh yes, if you correct people on not associating Linux with Android, that includes you in the Cult.
You know what the say about a duck don’t you? Walking and talking? You’ll be getting your special decoder ring in the mail any day now Chris.
Disassociating Linux from Android is an obsession with the Cult of Microsoft. Oh yes, if you correct people on not associating Linux with Android, that includes you in the Cult.
On the contrary, on the contrary, kozmcrae. It is you who tries to add Linux to everything, being forgetful about the fact that Linux is nothing which is usable for driving a marketing campaign targeted at consumers. Android/Linux? Sorry, but most people don’t even care about what OS is running on their phone. Consumers go into a store, they try out the phones on offer, they choose. They’re not going into a store, reciting to themselves over and over: “I need a phone with Linux.”
Chris Weig fibbed, “Linux is nothing which is usable for driving a marketing campaign targeted at consumers. “
Chuckle.
Tell that to IBM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYT5VcPSjSg (TV ad)
Tell that to Samsung: “OS compatibility: … Various Linux OS: RedHat Enterprise Linux WS 4, 5 (32 / 64 bit) Fedora 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (32 / 64bit) SuSE Linux 10.0, 10.1 (32bit) OpenSuSE 10.2, 10.3, 11.0, 11.1, 11.2 (32 / 64bit) Mandriva 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2009.1 (32 / 64bit) Ubuntu 5.04, 5.10, 6.06, 6.10, 7.04, 7.10, 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, 9.10 (32 / 64bit) SuSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10, 11 (32 / 64bit) Debian 4.0, 5.0 (32 / 64bit) “
That’s in an ad for a consumer’s printer.
having heard nothing about search
So your belief is that the mere mention of Android in the Winnipeg paper will spur the masses to Google for it and thus come across the meaning of FLOSS? Seems like a real stretch to claim that such a situation is a portent of doom for the “desktop monopoly” you claim is at the root of Microsoft’s long term success, Mr. Pogson, but its your blog and you can cry if you want to, so to speak.
Clarence Moon it was not just the desktop monopoly.
It has been vendor lock-in between the server room and the desktop. The combination has restricted other OS’s from getting a foot hold.
To me the desktop monopoly is not the secret of MS success.
Like you want to run a OS X machine you find out that MS Office on there don’t product documents that display properly on Windows.
MAPI on exchange has been a problem. This problem has been reduced by active sync to support non MS devices.
MS control over the server room to client OS is breaking down. Part of it has been caused by Android. This does mean weaker control on what desktops people do use.
We already have different places running all Linux.
Chris Weig wrote:
“Android/Linux? Sorry, but most people don’t even care about what OS is running on their phone.”
So maybe they go into a store and say give me anything that’s not Microsoft. That would explain Microsoft’s disastrous sales numbers.
Chris Weig wrote:
“Android/Linux? Sorry, but most people don’t even care about what OS is running on their phone.”
No they don’t even know what an operating system is but all they know is, for most of them, is that they want the one that has Android. And why would you want to associate a “hobbyists” operating system with something as cool as Android? That’s where Microsoft blew it.
MAPI on exchange has been a problem. This problem has been reduced by active sync to support non MS devices.
Vendor lock-in? With Exchange?
I think you have got the history completely backwards, buddy.
Oh, I forgot – you believe that somehow Cyrus IMAP is the same thing as groupware, don’t you?
LOL. Oh, mercy…
MAPI on exchange has been a problem. This problem has been reduced by active sync to support non MS devices.
Ha-ha, Ohio, this time you didn’t even consult Wikipedia properly!