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		<title>By: Clarence Moon</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/07/28/is-linux-ready-for-your-pc-times-of-india/#comment-92630</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 19:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;You mean like...&lt;/b&gt;

You seem to have missed the &quot;or&quot; in my post, Mr. Pogson.  Perhaps you would allow me to add the very small subset of companies that have a public tiff with Microsoft and/or find it necessary to be seen &quot;eating their own dogfood&quot;.  Outside of that, yes.

Oh, and you take some poetic license to suggest that the entirety of IBM, Facebook, and the Asian countries you list are actually using Linux on their desktops in the universal manner that you suggest.  That is simply not the case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>You mean like&#8230;</b></p>
<p>You seem to have missed the &#8220;or&#8221; in my post, Mr. Pogson.  Perhaps you would allow me to add the very small subset of companies that have a public tiff with Microsoft and/or find it necessary to be seen &#8220;eating their own dogfood&#8221;.  Outside of that, yes.</p>
<p>Oh, and you take some poetic license to suggest that the entirety of IBM, Facebook, and the Asian countries you list are actually using Linux on their desktops in the universal manner that you suggest.  That is simply not the case.</p>
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		<title>By: kozmcrae</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/07/28/is-linux-ready-for-your-pc-times-of-india/#comment-92628</link>
		<dc:creator>kozmcrae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[iLia wrote:

&quot;Or do you mean that Microsoft pays us?&quot;

Or likewise, why would Microsoft throw poop at itself?  Pay you?  I think not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iLia wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Or do you mean that Microsoft pays us?&#8221;</p>
<p>Or likewise, why would Microsoft throw poop at itself?  Pay you?  I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/07/28/is-linux-ready-for-your-pc-times-of-india/#comment-92626</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clarence Moon wrote, of GNU/Linux, &lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;it will never be adopted outside of a small band of geeks&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;.

You mean like IBM, Google, FaceBook, Governments of whole countries like Brazil, Russia, India, China, Malaysia, much of South America and Europe, large and small businesses like Peugeot, Ernie Ball Guitar Strings, and many government departments and educational organizations? Those don&#039;t seem like geeks and they are not small.

Consider &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sd63.bc.ca/blog/2012/02/diskless-clients-and-open-source-software-saving-energy-hundreds-thousands-dollars&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Saanich School Division&lt;/a&gt; in British Columbia, Canada. They migrated for a lot of good reasons and still saved a lot of money:
&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;By March 2012 the Saanch School District will have completed a very ambitious 3 year education technology project. Over 2500 aging Microsoft Windows-based workstations will have been replaced by diskless (thin) clients using Linux and primarily open source software. The reasons for this are many and can briefly be summarzied as follows:
&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;reduce maintenance&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;reduce support&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;reduce capital costs&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;reduce energy costs&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;smaller footprint requiring less physical space&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;provide standardization and consistency&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;lighter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;quieter&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;consume less energy&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;require less heating and cooling&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;reduce the CO2 and GHG emmisions&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;produce less ewaste&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;

	&lt;li&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;require an appreciably smaller environmental footprint&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

They are not geeks, just ordinary people wanting the best from IT with as few negative consequences as possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarence Moon wrote, of GNU/Linux, <em><font color="green">&#8220;it will never be adopted outside of a small band of geeks&#8221;</font></em>.</p>
<p>You mean like IBM, Google, FaceBook, Governments of whole countries like Brazil, Russia, India, China, Malaysia, much of South America and Europe, large and small businesses like Peugeot, Ernie Ball Guitar Strings, and many government departments and educational organizations? Those don&#8217;t seem like geeks and they are not small.</p>
<p>Consider <a href="http://www.sd63.bc.ca/blog/2012/02/diskless-clients-and-open-source-software-saving-energy-hundreds-thousands-dollars" rel="nofollow">Saanich School Division</a> in British Columbia, Canada. They migrated for a lot of good reasons and still saved a lot of money:<br />
<em><font color="green">&#8220;By March 2012 the Saanch School District will have completed a very ambitious 3 year education technology project. Over 2500 aging Microsoft Windows-based workstations will have been replaced by diskless (thin) clients using Linux and primarily open source software. The reasons for this are many and can briefly be summarzied as follows:<br />
</font></em><em><font color="green"></p>
<ul>
<li><font color="green">reduce maintenance</font></li>
<li><font color="green">reduce support</font></li>
<li><font color="green">reduce capital costs</font></li>
<li><font color="green">reduce energy costs</font></li>
<li><font color="green">smaller footprint requiring less physical space</font></li>
<li><font color="green">provide standardization and consistency</font></li>
<li><font color="green">lighter</font></li>
<li><font color="green">quieter</font></li>
<li><font color="green">consume less energy</font></li>
<li><font color="green">require less heating and cooling</font></li>
<li><font color="green">reduce the CO2 and GHG emmisions</font></li>
<li><font color="green">produce less ewaste</font></li>
<li><font color="green">require an appreciably smaller environmental footprint</font></li>
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<p>&#8220;</font></em></p>
<p>They are not geeks, just ordinary people wanting the best from IT with as few negative consequences as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Moon</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/07/28/is-linux-ready-for-your-pc-times-of-india/#comment-92624</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 16:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;think it’s more like that Chris Weig is not ready for GNU/Linux&lt;/b&gt;

As an an element of a larger macrocosm, Mr. Pogson, that is likely to be true.  Virtually no one is ready for Linux because it is an unnecessary element for personal computing in general.  &quot;Too little, too late!&quot;  or even &quot;A day late and a dollar short!&quot; are apt descriptions of Linux as a desktop OS product.  

If it had any uniqueness other than obscurity, it might stand a chance in the market, but the way that it is, particularly as a never-ending clone of whatever direction Windows takes, it will never be adopted outside of a small band of geeks who think it is somehow commendible to be audacious or those who are so impoverished that the cost factor is of high importance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>think it’s more like that Chris Weig is not ready for GNU/Linux</b></p>
<p>As an an element of a larger macrocosm, Mr. Pogson, that is likely to be true.  Virtually no one is ready for Linux because it is an unnecessary element for personal computing in general.  &#8220;Too little, too late!&#8221;  or even &#8220;A day late and a dollar short!&#8221; are apt descriptions of Linux as a desktop OS product.  </p>
<p>If it had any uniqueness other than obscurity, it might stand a chance in the market, but the way that it is, particularly as a never-ending clone of whatever direction Windows takes, it will never be adopted outside of a small band of geeks who think it is somehow commendible to be audacious or those who are so impoverished that the cost factor is of high importance.</p>
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		<title>By: iLia</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/07/28/is-linux-ready-for-your-pc-times-of-india/#comment-92613</link>
		<dc:creator>iLia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No censorship! Sorry :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No censorship! Sorry <img src='http://mrpogson.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/07/28/is-linux-ready-for-your-pc-times-of-india/#comment-92609</link>
		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 12:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[iLia have you not read the tmrepository.com about page.

Basically they are a group who says they are to hunt down freetard with crap.  In other words they are trolls.  Using troll methods to fight trolls does not work.  People who quote the Tmrepository normally don&#039;t know facts and are normally incompetent.

So if you are wanting to place a link from the tmrepository think twice there are some quite classic clangers in there of stupidity.  Like not understanding why a particular developer built the Worlds Slowest Linux computer.  Dmitry Grinberg is a driver developer for lots of embedded stuff where performance is important.

If everything was logical we would not have art work.  To everyone other than a person like Dmitry Grinbery the device is basically artwork that it is even possible.

Sometimes the most interesting question is why someone built something because what they built is not what you call a practical device for anyone else.

Tmrepository was not designed to dispose of zealots on either side.  Yes Tmrepository with the Worlds Slowest Linux computer proved how much of pack of bigots they were.  Insulting a developer who most of them would use a device somewhere containing his work just because he made something that was weird to most people.

More you go threw the Tmrepository the more errors you find and the more items that should be deleted because they are just Trolling.  There might be some gems in there but with the crap and personal attacks on people its just a place for trolls.

iLia some groups are not worth being mixed up with.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iLia have you not read the tmrepository.com about page.</p>
<p>Basically they are a group who says they are to hunt down freetard with crap.  In other words they are trolls.  Using troll methods to fight trolls does not work.  People who quote the Tmrepository normally don&#8217;t know facts and are normally incompetent.</p>
<p>So if you are wanting to place a link from the tmrepository think twice there are some quite classic clangers in there of stupidity.  Like not understanding why a particular developer built the Worlds Slowest Linux computer.  Dmitry Grinberg is a driver developer for lots of embedded stuff where performance is important.</p>
<p>If everything was logical we would not have art work.  To everyone other than a person like Dmitry Grinbery the device is basically artwork that it is even possible.</p>
<p>Sometimes the most interesting question is why someone built something because what they built is not what you call a practical device for anyone else.</p>
<p>Tmrepository was not designed to dispose of zealots on either side.  Yes Tmrepository with the Worlds Slowest Linux computer proved how much of pack of bigots they were.  Insulting a developer who most of them would use a device somewhere containing his work just because he made something that was weird to most people.</p>
<p>More you go threw the Tmrepository the more errors you find and the more items that should be deleted because they are just Trolling.  There might be some gems in there but with the crap and personal attacks on people its just a place for trolls.</p>
<p>iLia some groups are not worth being mixed up with.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Pogson</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/07/28/is-linux-ready-for-your-pc-times-of-india/#comment-92606</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Pogson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 11:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[iLia wrote, &lt;em&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&quot;More Linux in schools more work for him.&quot;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Nope. I am retired. Neither do I have any financial investments in GNU/Linux. I am just a user these days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iLia wrote, <em><font color="green">&#8220;More Linux in schools more work for him.&#8221;</font></em></p>
<p>Nope. I am retired. Neither do I have any financial investments in GNU/Linux. I am just a user these days.</p>
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		<title>By: iLia</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/07/28/is-linux-ready-for-your-pc-times-of-india/#comment-92605</link>
		<dc:creator>iLia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another piece of censorship, Mr.Pogson?

Why you don&#039;t want people know about &lt;b&gt;tmrepository.com&lt;/b&gt;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another piece of censorship, Mr.Pogson?</p>
<p>Why you don&#8217;t want people know about <b>tmrepository.com</b>?</p>
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		<title>By: oiaohm</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/07/28/is-linux-ready-for-your-pc-times-of-india/#comment-92604</link>
		<dc:creator>oiaohm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[iLia all goverments do something bad.  USA and Australia cannot really speak against what India has done.

Lot of what the USA and Australia did to the natives was worse.  Australia we did taking children away from there mothers and putting them into government run schools and mass murder of those who resisted the action.

Yes history has lot of bad things.  Untouchables and Muslims have something in common they operate outside the main culture of the country and do not mix with others well.

Really those are the USA equal to trouble makers that disappear.

iLia you really cannot dispute the technical merits of what India is doing with Linux.  So you have to attack the India government as some evil body that we cannot copy.

Really coping the USA or Australia historic solution to those that will not integrate what is a bullet India would not have a problem today.  So you are most likely not in a country you can comment.  A bullet is the max in population control.  Its cheap as well you don&#039;t have to keep on feeding the person.

So india does have some compassion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iLia all goverments do something bad.  USA and Australia cannot really speak against what India has done.</p>
<p>Lot of what the USA and Australia did to the natives was worse.  Australia we did taking children away from there mothers and putting them into government run schools and mass murder of those who resisted the action.</p>
<p>Yes history has lot of bad things.  Untouchables and Muslims have something in common they operate outside the main culture of the country and do not mix with others well.</p>
<p>Really those are the USA equal to trouble makers that disappear.</p>
<p>iLia you really cannot dispute the technical merits of what India is doing with Linux.  So you have to attack the India government as some evil body that we cannot copy.</p>
<p>Really coping the USA or Australia historic solution to those that will not integrate what is a bullet India would not have a problem today.  So you are most likely not in a country you can comment.  A bullet is the max in population control.  Its cheap as well you don&#8217;t have to keep on feeding the person.</p>
<p>So india does have some compassion.</p>
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		<title>By: iLia</title>
		<link>http://mrpogson.com/2012/07/28/is-linux-ready-for-your-pc-times-of-india/#comment-92601</link>
		<dc:creator>iLia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-population-control-holocaust&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What a nice government India has!&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;cite&gt;In India, for example, the ruling upper-caste Hindus have focused the population control effort on getting rid of lower-caste untouchables and Muslims.&lt;/cite&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-population-control-holocaust" rel="nofollow">What a nice government India has!</a>:</p>
<p><cite>In India, for example, the ruling upper-caste Hindus have focused the population control effort on getting rid of lower-caste untouchables and Muslims.</cite></p>
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