Robert Pogson

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Is Google Making A Mistake By Selling Tablets?

  • Apr 13 / 2012
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Is Google Making A Mistake By Selling Tablets?

Ron Miller thinks so. His key point?
” once again Google is treading into unfamiliar territory. Companies tend to fail when they go outside their comfort zone (Apple’s foray into retail stores being a notable exception). My feeling is Google doesn’t know much more than it did the first time about retail. It’s just a desperate attempt to jump-start the anemic Android tablet market.”

It’s not as if Google’s smart phones did not sell. They sold well enough for their purpose, to provide a reliable platform for Android/Linux development. The same situation will likely hold for the new tablets unless Google lines up some big OEMs to push the product. Google has lined up ASUS or Samsung, both of whom know how to sell product. In its latest report, Google stated

  • revenues of $10.65 billion in the first quarter of 2012, representing a 24% increase over first quarter 2011
  • Google-owned sites generated revenues of $7.31 billion

Google’s total investment in Android/Linux is just pocket-change (cash = $49.3billion) for them and they are making the market for its search and app business grow by shipping more smart thingies and encouraging other suppliers to do the same. Even if users of smart thingies are not replacing their PC with a smart thing, they are increasing the hours of the day they can access Google’s services by mobility. There is no downside for Google. There would be a serious downside if they stuck with the stagnant Wintel platform. Google would not have 24% growth staying with Wintel only.

29 Comments

  1. Robert Pogson

    Phenom wrote, “What you quote is the marketshare of all OSes, including the desktop! You could do much better with a simple search in Google.”

    OK, of mobile they have 0.42%. HAHAHA ROFL! From where does the 14% number come, a random number generator?

  2. Phenom

    Pogson, are you out of your mind? What you quote is the marketshare of all OSes, including the desktop! You could do much better with a simple search in Google.

    Let’s look at your data anyway. Linux, even including Anroid, still lurks around 2%. Sad, sad world.

  3. Robert Pogson

    I didn’t think that nonsense was worth replying but now that two fools have been beating the drum, I looked it up with NetApplications, a paragon of virtue. They report 0.07%, 200 times less than 14%.

  4. Phenom

    iLia wrote: By the way, in Russia MS Windows Phone has 14% market share and can reach 25% this year.

    Hm, very interesting news. I checked it, and it is indeed correct. And a very smart move for MS to replace Bing with Yandex for Russia, as the latter is obviously more potent for local search results.

    Sad news for you, Mr. Pogson. I clearly remember how you thought Linux was gonna win in Russia. Well, reality beats your predictions. Again.

  5. ch

    > So Linux attack has not started in the desktop market

    What? So all this crap about “Linux is totally ready for the mainstream desktop” has been a hoax all along? Go tell it, brother! And let’s hope that Mr Pogson is listening ;-)

  6. oiaohm

    Clarence Moon take a close look you will see its license fee collection is not growing. Yet PC sales have increases.

    There is a failure here. Effects to desktop Linux distributions by Android will take about another 12 to 18 months to come out.

    So Linux attack has not started in the desktop market with a OS with means to respond like users want. Yet MS is showing weakness. This is not good.

  7. Clarence Moon

    The fact that installed base is dropping noticeably means that market share has fallen for some time…

    Microsoft’s share of desktop computers has not changed in the installed base, if the web counter statistics actually represent that condition. Rather, the stats simply show some of the effect of use of cell phones and tablets to access the internet where only PCs were used previously.

    As I said elsewhere, Microsoft does not sell web page hits, it sells licenses. It is easy enough to look to their license fee collections to see how well they are doing.

    That’s why they are desperately trying …

    I see no signs of desperation, Mr. Pogson. They had a record quarter, eh? All smiles, all the way to the bank.

  8. Robert Pogson

    To the extent that PCs live some average number of years and are replaced usage and market share track. There may be a time delay in changes. The fact that installed base is dropping noticeably means that market share has fallen for some time. It’s not as if M$ had one bad year. It’s been a few years that their sales have lagged growth in shipments of PCs. M$ knows. That’s why they are desperately trying to port to ARM and hope the monopoly holds or can be rebuilt. It cannot.

  9. Clarence Moon

    Trefis shows…

    When you look into things, it is obviously a matter of definition. The entities that are counting internet usage statistics are not really counting PC OS sales, merely the composition of the installed base. If an individual converts an XP machine to Ubuntu, for example, that will show in the internet stats as an increase for Linux, but it is not any loss to Microsoft since they had already collected their fee for Windows.

    That is not, to me, market share, which involves a determination of who sold what to whom. The issue of piracy, too, is sort of moot. What do you call a PC with a pirated copy of Windows installed? You cannot call it a victory for Linux or Apple although it is perhaps a loss to Microsoft. If one can believe that the customer would have bought a legitimate copy if they were unable to obtain an illegitimate one. In a sense that could be considered a loss to Linux since the person might well have settled for Ubuntu if free access to Windows was blocked.

  10. kozmcrae

    Hey everybody, gather ’round. Come see an example of cluelessness you are not likely to see any time again soon. @ldman attempts to denigrate the Bash shell. Instead he displays, for all of us to see, his own foolishness.

    Yes @ldman, if the Bash shell is such an antique as you describe then why did Microsoft attempt to copy it as they did with their Power Shell (Don’t you just love the name?? POWER SHELL…?) Oh don’t bother, I already know… “it’s better”. Yeah right.

    After years of suffering with pointing and clicking a thousand times to fix a single problem Microsoft decided it was time to give their vexed system administrators a CLI. And now suddenly a CLI is a good thing? The revisionists are always on the move, changing history to suit Microsoft’s needs in the present.

  11. Robert Pogson

    Gartner does not count lots of stuff. The major OEMs may well ship 90% that other OS. If it were true that such a high percentage of PCs shipped globally with that other OS, it’s share would not be dropping below that level.

    Trefis shows 76%

    Wikipedia shows 74%

    Ballmer, God himself, reported less than 75% in 2009 and their share of browsers have dropped since then.

    The “unlicensed” other OS is definitely an issue in some parts of the world but the major markets are still the bulk of OS shipments. Wikipedia, for instance, does not get much traffic from China (less than 1%). So, even in the major markets that other OS is way down from the “good old days” of monopoly.

    NetApplications does show ~90% but they are severely biased
    as I have shown. The shift of Google at Mountain View California, just a few thousand people, biased NetApplications’ results for all of USA, because they use GNU/Linux from a business domain during office hours. The hundreds of thousands of students using GNU/Linux every day did not show up for NetApplications, so forget that ~1% nonsense. If M$ were shipping 90%, don’t you think they would boast about that? What are they not proud about? Monopoly? Lost glory?

    If the installed base share of that other OS has dropped 15 percentage points or so in a decade, you can bet they are shipping far less than that. 60% is reasonable. We know Apple ships less than 6% because they do publish numbers. That leaves a lot of space for noOS, FreeDOS and GNU/Linux.

  12. Robert Pogson

    “Search the scripts that were requested by other community members.
    modify selected users
    REQUESTEDCOMPLETEDSort By :
    No existing script requests were found. Help us out by submitting a script request.”

    The incident I mentioned predated PowerShell (initial release November, 2006). The incident occurred in 2003 on a Lose 2K server. GNU/Linux has had scripting since the beginning.

  13. Clarence Moon

    I have no idea where the number 60% comes from…

    This is an alchemy from Mr. Pogson that he has synthesized from a variety of figures taken from various sources at various times and projected onto a current point in time in order to support his undying wish for Microsoft to be vanquished in the market place.

    But it fails the sobriety test of commerce. If 40% of the PCs produced annually are sold with some other OS installed or else with no OS installed, then there would likely be some mention of that rather significant market segment in the trade press. There is no such mention, of course, and so the theory remains rather thinly held since no one seems to be aware of it in the context of their personal incomes.

    Some facts are available, such as Microsoft’s revenues of about $20 billion for the Windows client group. Microsoft reports a unit volume claim for licenses for Windows 7, proclaiming a wonderful rate of distribution. IDC reports a quarterly count of unit volume for what most people accept as “PC Computers”. No one here is willing to part with the money needed for the full IDC report, though, and there is not any detail in what Microsoft classes as a “license”. There is an implicit assumption in Mr. Pogson’s analysis that a Windows 7 license and an individual PC shipment are equated. The expected totals do not appear to match one another.

    So Mr. Pogson assumes that the missing licenses, by his projected averaged count as taken from Microsoft press releases, are mostly Linux computers being sold to people who are keeping mum about it. To complicate things, Gartner claims a 90%+ shipping rate for Windows PCs without discussing unit volume counts. Mr. Pogson dismisses that as irrelevant.

  14. oiaohm

    iLia
    “And there is Mono”
    Many hosting locations Mono is forbin due to legal issues around .net not being clearly resolved. This is your problem you are not dealing cross platform to understand that there are many cases were Mono is not usable. Your site can be disabled without notice if Mono is found. Same with using particular patented protected codecs without a license.

    “And well designed GUI can be very useful, they can prevent users from making many errors, the only reason why FOSS lacks good GUIs, is because they lack manpower to write and maintain them, it is not so easy.”
    This is wrong. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_hosting_control_panels GUI exist in the form of web GUI’s. Desktop GUI are missing for the reason I stated. Due to lack of supply of stable local video card drivers.

    Man power is there to write them and maintain them. Just no one is going to waste time while the direct desktop is not 100 percent stable.

    “Linux GUI is not like” Is what I said. Please read my words carefully. I did not say a GUI did not exist. You are presuming a myth.

    FOSS has configuration GUI’s just they happen to be webpage interfaces because webpage interfaces are stable. Lack of stability in desktop video drivers is the only reason you don’t have configuration like windows on Linux. No point having a graphical admin control that has failed and that is your only way to control that server.

    Really most of the time if you are editing stacks of Linux Configuration files on Linux you are doing things wrong iLia.

    Really sometime look closer at you Windows Admin interfaces a lot are just web pages in a wrapper. Something that could be done to Linux. Just no one bothers. Using network name spaces you can make Web GUI admin on Linux highly restricted.

  15. Robert Pogson

    iLia wrote, “GUI is easier to use, and it can be as powerful as configs.”

    That may be true in some cases but in GNU/Linux, you find all the configs for a particular application in one place, and you can script modifications. In a GUI, something like this is very difficult:

    for f in bob carol ted alice … ;do usermod -a -G somegroup $f;done

    I once was new in a school and thankfully unfamiliar with inActive Directory. There was a guy on staff who was and he spent days in the server room clicking and clicking and clicking… just adding new people to the system and moving graduates around in the system. He could not just select a group because not all members of the group moved from elementary to high school. I once created 700 accounts in minutes with GNU/Linux and CLI.

    Things that are better with CLI than GUI for normal users include modifying (finding, moving, renaming, converting) thousands of files with a few clicks, processing batches of anything through multiple applications (take all the images in a directory, crop them/resize them/tune them up with ImageMagick, then convert them to .jpeg while adding the current date and a note to the filename storing in another directory). We can go on to creating robots that check a directory every few minutes to process some way, saving minutes of clicking for the entire output of a group of people… etc.

  16. iLia

    Robert Pogson

    Vista was crap. “7″ is Vista debugged and M$ had people pay for a licence twice.

    Actually people moved to 7 from XP, Vista was not adopted widely. And no one forced them to move to Vista, they took this decision themselves. They could move to free Linux, but decided to move to Vista.

    Or by the way, how often the user of commercial linuxes should pay for the support? Once a year? And how much?

    The CLI of GNU/Linux is a gem, tried and true.

    And what about PowerShell? MinWin? And well designed GUI can be very useful, they can prevent users from making many errors, the only reason why FOSS lacks good GUIs, is because they lack manpower to write and maintain them, it is not so easy.

    And GUI can present information much more efficiently than a text editor, you know, all this fancy lists, trees, text boxes, combo boxes with lists of possible values.

    Also with GUI you don’t need to learn configs syntaxes by heart, the only thing you need is to understand what are you doing. GUI is easier to use, and it can be as powerful as configs.

    iLia .net better than Java is your point of view not shared by everyone. When you have to host cross platform Java kicks .net but.

    Windows market share is still almost 90% so i don’t worry about crossplatform apps much. And there is Mono, Mono Winforms are pile of crap, but other things are working very well. So no real need for Java even for crossplatform stuff.

    oiaohm:

    Oracle does not recommend running their database on windows by the way. Recommended platform is solaris or Linux.

    Of cause, they earn some extra money from Solaris.

    But when MS does the same thing everyone cries out about “locking users”.

    Really to be correct there are configuration incompatibilities between grub loaders but you can can install different grub loaders in different partitions and chain load between them without issue.

    I will stick with windows rather then learning how to edit another bunch of linux configs.

  17. oiaohm

    From my point of view shell is only for testing.

    For real deployments its items like cfengine to apply templates.

    oldman systemd systems shells are optional. /bin/sh was demanded by old system V boot processes.

    GUI shell really MS provides a version of windows without a GUI Shell as well Oldman. GUI shell is a removable part from Windows Linux and OS X.

    Ok most windows admin is like what the hell.

    Really the lack of in kernel shell is a miss information. Directfb has privided same amount of kernel intergration as windows does for over 12 years.

    Wayland using the DRI2 system on Linux is also as kernel integrated as Microsoft shell design.

    If you want to place blame for why Linux GUI is not like Windows it lands on Companies like Nvidia only releasing DRI1 drivers to support unix and bsd systems that are not Linux that don’t have in kernel systems for video cards.

    Heck Microsoft is trying to get administrators to use powershell under windows even making it the only way to set particular settings. Windows administration is becoming less GUI.

    Android demands DRI2 support. Thank god there is now pressure for hardware makers to create sane hardware drivers for Linux.

    Yes Linux GUI for administration has been avoided due to stability issues cause by DRI1 design of having video card memory managed by userspace so having to do like the magically hand overs hoping not to cause stuff to fail.

    Also its that text is small compact and does not use much bandwidith. cfengine uses even less bandwidth to configure than ssh does. Yes powershell for windows administrator is the same basic thing. You don’t want the administrator chewing up any more bandwidth than required to get the job done.

  18. Robert Pogson

    A GUI shell is insecure bloat, way too complex for managing resources.

    BASH is only one of a dozen shells in GNU/Linux all with very powerful features. They are all effectively extensible programming languages. There’s hardly anything that cannot be done with them. Bash does have a rather obscure syntax but there are others that are more rational. There’s not much lock-in with BASH. Most of the scripts are in /etc, a finite directory and they could be translated to another language without much difficulty if there were any need to do that. Because no one has done much about that, I reason that there is no reason to do so.

    Being old does not make bash, dash, csh, yash, zsh, etc. obsolete, just old. If it’s not broken why fix it?

    Here is a list of shell-like thingies I found in the Debian GNU/Linux repository just matching package-names:
    aptsh – apt interactive shell
    bash – GNU Bourne Again SHell
    bsh – Java scripting environment (BeanShell) Version 2
    clusterssh – administer multiple ssh or rsh shells simultaneously
    csh – Shell with C-like syntax
    ash – compatibility package for dash
    dash – POSIX-compliant shell
    dish – diligence/distributed shell for parallel sysadmin
    dpsyco-ssh – Automate administration of access via ssh
    drush – command line shell and Unix scripting interface for Drupal
    dsh – dancer’s shell, or distributed shell
    erlang-ssh – Erlang/OTP implementation of SSH protocol
    fish – friendly interactive shell
    fizsh – Friendly Interactive ZSHell
    hotssh – graphical interface to secure shell
    ksh – The real, AT&T version of the Korn shell
    lush – Lisp Universal Shell Executable
    midish – shell-like MIDI sequencer/filter
    mksh – MirBSD Korn Shell
    mosh – Mobile shell that supports roaming and intelligent local echo
    mssh – tool to administrate multiple servers at once
    mussh – MUltihost SSH Wrapper
    ssh – secure shell client and server (metapackage)
    pdksh – Public domain version of the Korn shell
    pdsh – Efficient rsh-like utility, for using hosts in parallel
    posh – Policy-compliant Ordinary SHell
    pssh – Parallel versions of SSH-based tools
    rssh – Restricted shell allowing scp, sftp, cvs, svn, rsync or rdist
    rush – restricted user shell
    sash – Stand-alone shell
    scsh – A `scheme’ interpreter designed for writing system programs (default version)
    slsh – Interpreter for S-Lang language
    tcsh – TENEX C Shell, an enhanced version of Berkeley csh
    xrsh – remote execution of XWindow programs
    yash – yet another shell
    zsh – shell with lots of features

    They can get GUI-like if you want. Why you would want to administer a system from a GUI is beyond me. A cluster, maybe, but a single system?

    These shells are not obsolete. They are classical, just like music.

  19. oiaohm

    iLia Exchange is basically not used in ISP storage. Largest email storage of all is ISP storage.

    Hotmail is bloated since those account appear when someone sets up a xbox.

    “Creating a Hotmail account also gives the user a Windows Live ID, which is necessary for creating an Xbox LIVE account.”

    Yes its in the xbox instructions. Gmail and Yahoo don’t have real world device bloating the numbers. So sorry hotmail number should leave Gmail and Yahoo for dead and they don’t due to the bias effect there.

    Percentages have to be taken with a grain of salt.

    Also miss the fact that Exchange may be used its also normally used behind Linux snmp filtering of some form.

    Computerworld Development Survey is not the main or proper veted study.

    http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html tiobe is the valid study.

    Computerworld Development Survey was of there readers. Compared to tiobes that tries to survey everyone one. So all you proved is that Computerworld is MS biased not like I am that surprised.

    iLia
    “IBM dropped it, as it dropped their OpenOffice fork.”
    IBM has not dropped there OpenOffice fork. They still make it.
    Its changed name that is all. From IBM Lotus Symphony Lotus Symphony to Apache OpenOffice IBM Edition. Yes they transferred the the Lotus Symphony source base to Apache. It now looks like that Oracles version of OpenOffice is going in to the bin. Leaving IBM Symphony renamed OpenOffice and Libreoffice to duke it out.

    Unity only exists on distributions that don’t pass the DoD rainbow books so never used it.

    “Global 500 use vulnerable open source components”
    Note the word here components. Even .net includes open source components. Defect in asp.net made by Microsoft is a defect in a open source component.

    Sometime stats are not worth a cracker.

    “Why they should care about all Grubs, Lilos and other linux bootloaders? Even Grub does not care much, there are some incompatibilities between different versions of Grub.”

    No well behaved Linux distribution overwrite the master boot record without asking with a different boot loader. Windows has taken out what ever boot loader was put there.

    Really to be correct there are configuration incompatibilities between grub loaders but you can can install different grub loaders in different partitions and chain load between them without issue.

    Mostly in the process of making grub more tolerant of a boot loader the configuration files where changed.

    All of the PC based Linux boot loaders can chain load to windows boot loader. Including the Linux kernel itself. Issue is windows just deleting the existing boot loader without asking.

    Most people are not aware that Linux kernel is able to be its own bootloader.

    Oracle does not recommend running their database on windows by the way. Recommended platform is solaris or Linux.

    On webservers look at the graphics here. http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2012/04/04/april-2012-web-server-survey.html
    Microsoft is slipping. You should have checked out the wikipedia source location.

    .net is really becoming land locked.

    iLia .net better than Java is your point of view not shared by everyone. When you have to host cross platform Java kicks .net but.

  20. oldman

    “The CLI of GNU/Linux is a gem, tried and true. It works for me. It works for system admins.”

    Nope. Bash is obsolete garbage robert Pogson. It is kept along because of the lock in of over 20+ years of shell scripts and the ingrained habits of sysadmins and users like yourself. It is an necessity because in the end Linux has no integrated GUI shell, just window managers that are layered on top the way that windows 3.x was layered on DOS.

  21. Robert Pogson

    Vista was crap. “7″ is Vista debugged and M$ had people pay for a licence twice.

    Your comments say more about you than GNU/Linux. The CLI of GNU/Linux is a gem, tried and true. It works for me. It works for system admins. A desktop user never needs to use it unless they want to do some batch processing. Debian GNU/Linux package management is superb.

  22. iLia

    They did not earn that share by hard work and superior products.

    Actually .Net is much better then Java, I really enjoy writing .Net applications. Windows 7 is almost ideal, new Internet Explorer is as good as Firefox. Actually it seams to me that almost everything that MS shipped during last 5-7 years is of very hight quality. Visual Studio is superb.

    This Zdnet article states that “third party applications rather than Microsoft programs are responsible for the majority of vulnerabilities”.

    So when You blame MS for security problems do not forget to include Adobe and Firefox in the list.

    And there is a lot of vulnerabilities in FOSS software.

    I am a little tired about how Google promotes its browser, it is everywhere, it seams to me that Google is abusing its dominant position in search market. I even started to use Bing in oder not to see Chrome adds.

    They did not earn that share by hard work and superior products.

    Why Apple refuses to sell their OS at the same price as Windows? Why they do not allow other computer manufactures to ship Apple’s OS’s with their computers. It seams to me that Apple abstains from competition in low-price segments. And their OS do not work well with Linux.

    And why IBM abandoned their OS/2? It was a solid OS with a good market share, but IBM dropped it, as it dropped their OpenOffice fork. They simply do not want to compete.

    They made sure their products did not work well with other OS to make use of other OS frustrating.

    The use of linux is frustrating by itself.

    Unity, Gnome 3, packet management are disasters. All this console commands, configuration files are too frustrating to me.

    And why MS should care about all this not-other OS? New Linux releases come every 6 month, and there are a lot of them, and new Windows releases come every 5 years, so how can MS keep pace with this zoo of linux distributions?

    Why they should care about all Grubs, Lilos and other linux bootloaders? Even Grub does not care much, there are some incompatibilities between different versions of Grub.

    In many areas MS faces severe competition from other huge corporations, such as Oracle, Google, IBM, and MS manages to produce good quality software and even be the market leader.

    Or maybe you want to say that there is no alternatives to MS products in such area as databases, ides, web-servers, consoles, office suits.

    Actually it is very good that there is some competition, it makes MS make great products, such as .Net, Windows 7, new IE, Visual Studio, millions of people make their decisions to buy MS stuff even if there is some alternatives.

    Oh, by the way, once upon a time I managed to run Windows XP SP1 for 4 years without reinstalling it, and had to reinstall it only after i had broken it myself, by doing some configuration without proper knowledges and understanding. No viruses, no malware, no problems with drivers. It just worked.

  23. Robert Pogson

    True, and they got that share by forcing OEMs who wanted to sell PCs to sell PCs with their OS… They did not earn that share by hard work and superior products. They made sure their products did not work well with other OS to make use of other OS frustrating.

    “My nightmare scenario is that the Web grows into a rich application platform in an operating system-neutral way, and then a company like Siemens or Matsushita comes out with a S500 “WebMachine“ that attaches to a TV. This Webmachine will let the customer do all the cool Internet stuff, plus manage home finances (all the storage is at the server side), and play games. When faced with the choice between a $500 box (RISC CPU, 4—8Mb RAM,no hard disk, …) and a $2K Pentium P6 Windows machine, the 2/3rds of homes that don`t have a PC may find the $500 machine pretty attractive!” see Bens (May 1995, M$) e-mail to chrisjo

    They did the same for IE:
    “NBC shall exclusively promote IE. as opposed to Other Browsers, within the NBC Web Site for audiences in the Territory and shall, subject to the terms set forth in Section 7.1, display an IE logo such as “Best viewed by IE” on the home page of NBC.com and on section heading pages within the NBC Web Site if the subject matter of such section is featured in the NBC Channel (eg., if the Tonight Show is featured on NBC Daily, then the IE logo would be placed on the first page of the Tonight Show section of the NBC Web Site) and any other pages where similar promotions are placed.” What did it cost M$ to get NBC promoting M$’s products? Inclusion in a list of content-providers on the desktop, something that cost M$ nothing but paid them $billions over the years.

    M$ tried to harm IBM’s business by forcing IBM to use IE exclusively. see http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/exhibits/2203.pdf

  24. iLia

    Actually, this article says that MS Windows share is 91.86%, and I have no idea where the number 60% comes from.

    And “phoney “7″ at <1%" is almost the same thing as Linux at 1.5% — no real difference here.

    This Wikipedia article “Usage share of operating systems” gives Microsoft 73-87%, and it is not that bad for MS. The main MS’s competitor on the desktop is Apple, and their OS’s has nothing to do with Linux.

    The Wikipedia rating includes not only desktop OS’s but also smartphone OS’s, and this is why this other OS has only 73.38%.

    Here I compiled a short list of MS share in different markets:

    Databases:
    — Oracle 33.8%
    — IBM 30%
    — Microsoft 13.9%

    Windows
    — MS 38%
    — Oracle 32%

    Who Leads the RDBMS Pack?

    ERP
    — SAP 24%
    — Oracle 18%
    — Microsoft 11%

    http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERP#.D0.A0.D1.8B.D0.BD.D0.BE.D0.BA_ERP-.D1.81.D0.B8.D1.81.D1.82.D0.B5.D0.BC
    ERP

    Mail
    — Hotmail 364 million
    — Gmail 350 million
    — Yahoo! Mail 310 million

    Hotmail
    Gmail
    Yahoo! Mail

    Mail Servers

    Microsoft Exchange Server 73%

    Exchange 2010 Wins Best Mail Server in InfoWorld’s Technology of the Year Award!
    Web Servers

    — Apache 64.91%
    — IIS 14.39%
    — nginx 9.89%
    — GWS (google) 3.16%
    — Resin 0.77%

    Web server Market_share

    October 2011 Web Server Survey

    Programming Languages:

    1. C# – 72%
    2. Java – 66%
    3. Visual Basic – 62%
    4. C++ – 54%
    5. JavaScript – 50%
    6. Unix Shell Scripts – 42%
    7. Perl – 34%
    8. C – 32%
    9. PHP – 16%
    10. Python – 8%
    11. Delphi – 7%
    12. TCL – 6%
    13. Ruby – 1%

    Computerworld Development Survey gives nod to C#

    Search Engines:
    — Google: 66.4% (vs. 65.4%)
    — Bing: 15.3% (vs. 13.6%)
    — Yahoo: 13.8% (vs. 16.1%)
    — Ask: 3% (vs. 3.2%)
    — AOL: 1.5% (vs. 1.7%)

    Bing And Google Gain Market Share While Yahoo Drops

    Consoles (Worldwide sales figures)
    — Xbox 360 – 65.8 million as of 12 January 2012
    — Wii – 94.97 million as of 31 December 2011
    — PlayStation 3 – 62 million as of 2 November 2011


    Console wars

    So almost in every market where MS is present they have a significant market share, and fails greatly only with Windows Phone.

  25. Robert Pogson

    iLia wrote, “they still have their market share of desktop”.

    “Their” share was once 95%. It’s down to about 60% now (50 million licences per quarter). There are still some illegal copies. I don’t count them as revenue for M$. For a convicted monopolist, they are not doing well. Most web stats show phoney “7″ at <1%. Of course people could be using them as stupid phones. We should see no excitement from their next quarterly report.

  26. iLia

    the stagnant Wintel platform

    Actually, it seams to me that being the market leader is not the same thing as stagnate. And Microsoft is doing quite well, their Windows 7 is brilliant and secure and they still have their market share of desktop market, and good positions in a range of other markets.

    By the way, in Russia MS Windows Phone has 14% market share and can reach 25% this year. And in Norway it has 7% market share.

    It is quite possible that Windows 8 is going to be successful as a tablet/smartphone OS, Metro interface is very good for such devices. Their .Net platform is really great.

    But the growth of Linux as a desktop OS is still within the range of a statistical error. Even Apple with it small but expensive devices is going much, much better than all Linux distribution.

  27. Andrew

    How many millions did Mr. Miller make last year in his ‘consultancy’ business?

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