‘Selling better’ isn’t just about overall quality, it’s about rate of growth as well.

You are comparing a long-established line of hardware with a new one, see the incongruities there?

you just did it again: First you write
“Michael Dell ignores reality when he claims PCs are selling better than tablets all the while tablets are seeing double-digit growth and shipments of Wintel PCs are down or flat depending on where you look.”

Then you write “75million [tablets] sold in 2011. 350million desktop/notebook/netbook PCs sold in 2011.”

Obviously, when MD talks about “selling better” he is talking about _absolute_ numbers, and your own figures show that the absolute numbers sold are allmost 5:1 for PCs vs. tablets, so PCs actually _did_ sell better. You are talking mostly relative numbers (growth) which might well mean that in the future tablets will overtake PC sales, but it hasn’t happened yet. So I don’t see which actual data Mr. Dell would deny.

If you are going to manufacture items in the millions of units, you need substantial infrastructure and processes to run them. Quality is a result of these processes in action. It is the same for shoes, computers, glassware, televisions, cell phones, or tablets. You cannot economically manufacture a knockoff product of a mass market item without establishing the same scale of process. It will cost you more than the product’s price. Try making just a few tablets or computers in your garage by hand to get the idea.

There may be a low volume of product that came from some flawed process, and would have been scrapped by a reputable manufacturer, on the market, but the bulk of whitebox product is likely to be from the same factories as the branded merchandise, produced in the same way from the same components by the same process.

I meant the no-name brands, which come out cheap and en masse. Generic cases, no logos, just some assembled PCs.

Just like there are true trickster in the USA. Everywhere has there sharks. The bigger the country more sharks. Deal with China be aware it has a huge population so the population for sharks wanting to rip you off is high.

The most dangerous fake product to turn up in china was fake eggs made from toxic factory waste. Looked like a egg smelt like a egg tasted like a egg but it was killing you.

Basically treat china with the due care and you can get very decent product from there. If you random-ally buy from china you will most likely find a shark and rip self off badly.

Some people have had cooling problems with computers from china was because they did not read the computers specs. Computer designed only to operate in a Air conditioned Office does not take too kindly to being in a non Air Conditioned Office. The difference is power effectiveness that is kinda important in china as well. The computer that does not need Air Conditioning needs bigger power-supply and bigger fans.

It all about doing you homework proper with china. Same people who stuff up ordering from china stuff up from ordering for the white box guy down the street.

I am old and tired, inexperienced in business and I have made my millions. I will leave it to younger folks. China, Brazil, Russia and India have millions of entrepreneurs who can do the job if the Dells of the world will not.

I have a database from Wikipedia that gives some information from User_agent strings from browsers. Assuming anything containing “Tab” or “pad” is a tablet, I get 0.119 million unique visits out of 5.72 million unique visits (1/1000 of one day). That’s a low percentage. It’s even a low percentage of “Android” which is similar to “ipad” but iPad had a year or so head start and it takes time to catch up. It took a year for Android to catch up on smart phones. It will take a bit longer for tablets. I can find hits from just about any tablet known to Man. They are out there and selling.

I don’t think that is a completely true statement. When I turn over my Dell laptop that I am using at the moment, it states “Made in China”. A lot of the equipment sold as white boxes is made on the very same assembly lines using the same components as the branded merchandise sold to Dell, HP, or others.

There was an expose on CNBC or such a few months ago about the knock-off merchandise coming out of China not really being knock-off in terms of copying, but rather it was simply unauthorized production. Nike orders a million pair of shoes to be made and they are delivered. But the supplier company doesn’t turn off the machines and send the people home when the orders run out, they keep the lines running and steer the output to the counterfeit market. They are the same Nike shoes, just not approved by the brand owner.

It is not necessarily a quality issue.

I believe that each gadget has its own use and merits and find it annoying that when a new paradigm is introduced, it always HAS to replace old ones which is why we have the death of desktop-laptops stories non-stop.

>don’t be so happy about Chinese PCs.

Arent Apple computers made in China?
I remember when a friend found out 4yrs ago that his Macbook was being made in China and he kept denying it.
Pretty sure that most of the fruit toys come from Foxconn which if Im not mistaken is in China.
You have quality stuff made in China and you have cheap stuff. You have to know the difference.